Mini 1478 ~ Mafia Xenologue (Game Over!)

[Andrius]

I should be #4.

Vote: Saki

[ProHawk]

Just pointing out the obvious little snake-head dude so that maybe when I am dead someone will come back to this post and see your failed logic. Whether its indicative of your alignment yet is still out for jury, but it is admissible evidence to me. Should also note I hadn't completely caught up and missed your reasoning for Andy not being investigative.

[Vi]

~Vote Count XVI:

Frederick aka Freddy Bear

Saki (4) ~

(Jabberwock,)

Lady Lambdadelta, Jabberwock, Sakura Hana, Andrius
ProHawk (3) ~ Oil Tycoons, morph the cat, Purpkin
Andrius (1) ~ Debonair Danny DiPietro,

(Jabberwock,) (Purpkin)

Sakura Hana (1) ~ Saki,

(Purpkin,) (Andrius)

morph the cat (1) ~ ProHawk

Not Voting:

Daemon385, DTMaster,

(Sakura Hana,) (Andrius,) (Purpkin)

--With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

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[Jabberwock]

Hey ProHawk why are you trying to encourage the Sakura Hana counterwagon to Saki without putting your feet on the Sakura wagon yourself? Because if you're not caught up, that is the information you are working with regarding the then-wagons, and it makes no sense for Town-ProHawk to be focusing on this without either a look into our alignment besides "bad logic" or "dumb" or questioning why we aren't bringing the slot you are voting (morph the cat) into THAT post.

Also "snake-head" is a Wondercritter pleasee have some respect for our wonderness and wonderment tyvm.

[Daemon385]

I'm actually pretty convinced after reading the meta on Saki's games. It seems that maybe my assessment on the fact that Saki is just trying to make us turn a blind eye to him by just acting completely horrible is much more likely. I feel like I have sat and thought long enough and I honestly feel like this is very much a good place to put my vote. Time to get off my skepticism fence and hope like hell I lynch scum.

Vote:Saki

[morph the cat]

If we could hold off voting anymore until either battery makes it absolutely required or nacho-syr have their chance to get in here and post, that'd be great.

[Jabberwock]

L-2 is fine, no one else vote before the others have had their chance to chime in.

[Jabberwock]

so that maybe when I am dead

Also I hate this. How about you make things for

now

and push things

now

instead of hoping that someone will carry your banner when you're dead, especially since that banner is limp and useless and we've proven it wrong with a complete disparity in what you're saying we're doing and the actual facts and motivations?

UNVOTE: Saki
We'll be back here, but this head prefers a L-3 right now.

[Daemon385]

That's fair enough. I'd like to see more chime in. We do still have the time so the better we can to set sights on scum before pulling the trigger the better. Far better to pace out a scum kill then rush a mislynch. Better to be safe then sorry.

[ProHawk]

You seem really determined to read them as scum though, no matter what they do (like your 664 -- what is scummy about their saying "I will meta this dude when I have time?"

664 isn't scummy. Its when I directly ask them a question, and its gets "skipped" that is scummy. Like trying to scramble for answers scummy.

Furthermore, your initial hop on them in #342 is contingent on "using another player to strengthen a lynching position and posture". That actually seems like something town would do to me -- use someone that has prior experience with a slot as an authoritative source for a better read -- especially when they have a town read on the slot doing that. Why is that scummy to you in the first place?

Why in the world would town need someone to strengthen their read? Its scummy to me because it allows someone to put half of the blame on someone else for a mis-lynch.

You just seem really locked into this tunnel and I can't figure out why that is.

Maybe I am right, maybe I am wrong, but I am pretty darn sure I am right. This is who I want to lynch today, Sakura is second.

"Potential Tip Partners" = 'in the event of a TIP scumflip, here is where you should look.' I don't get the problem.

This is in response to... Jabberwock re: Twilight post being town. As I was looking at it, it looked fake. I then ask for rationale and get a rebuttal in the form of a semantics argument, and no rationale. Ya, still looks faked.

P-EDIT: If I was encouraging a Sakura counter wagon, I would be on it. I am encouraging a second look on your slot who has otherwise appeared town. I also don't care what you hate. So there is that.

[Andrius]

L-2 is fine, no one else vote before the others have had their chance to chime in.

Don't worry I'm already voting. >___________>

[Jabberwock]

P-EDIT: If I was encouraging a Sakura counter wagon, I would be on it. I am encouraging a second look on your slot who has otherwise appeared town. I also don't care what you hate. So there is that.

That's cute. "This slot looks Town but I am not sure and I really can't be bothered and OH BTW WHEN I'M DEAD some vague person come look at it let's not bother asking other people for now."

[ProHawk]

Aren't you cute tho?

[Jabberwock]

We're adorable. (ºwº) But you have no stance on the current wagons and that makes us sad. Do you really think morph the cat are getting lynched Today?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I already targeted Lady with it because i thought she'd have a female character, lol

No one else is to claim gender character. Ever. I'm betting Tierce said this already, but I'm too lazy to check. This is the kind of shit that Vi gives to town so that when they claim it the scum have an ability that also targets females and punishes it.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also can someone explain the Saki flashwagon? If no one does I'm taking my vote off it.

[Jabberwock]

Go read the linked Saki games, LLD. Also, complete Saki meta sources here.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

So this is entirely based on Meta?

[Jabberwock]

Meta, PoE, and that

his posts are scummy

. (Wild notion, I know~)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Meta,

PoE

, and that

his posts are scummy

. (Wild notion, I know~)

What

[Saki]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Saki

I'm Anna. Both my abilities say something along the lines of "this might do something or it might not."

Let's end the day.


I'm not following too closely but whoever is rolefishing is doing it well.
And Mafia Neighborizer seems highly likely.

[Jabberwock]

Uhm, LLD, just read the game...?

We're down to three potential scumreads. Sakura bleeds Town (1), DDD is Town (2), Nachyana are dead Town (3), you and Daemon are likely Town (5), DTMaster is Town (6), Purpkin and morph the cat are Town (8), we are Town (9). That leaves Andrius, Saki and ProHawk.

And before you complain that we can't PoE a game without a scumflip, we were (succesfully!) looking for the third scum on the very first post we made upon replacing into Mini 1398 on D1.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Unvote

I'm not doing this shit. I'm not lynching that. There is a 0 % chance in my mind that Saki is a sophisticated enough player to pull that as scum.

[Jabberwock]

LLD. I'm dead serious. I know you don't have patience for meta, but go look at Saki's games. He's playing dumb.

[Jabberwock]

I mean, we don't need your help to get him lynched, but go look at them games and then tell me he's not capable of playing the too scummy to be scum role on purpose,

especially

when he is called out explicitly as too scummy to be scum.