mastin wrote:I'm a bit concerned about [Muffin's] stances, such as nicktown, Rachscum, maScum2, TD as scum
What specifically concerns you about these reads?
Also can you put all your current reads together in one post (just the reads, don't give a shit about the explanations for now).
As for the RM-town stuff, no. Just no.
Here are my basic thoughts on RM:
RM wrote:Besides his reaction to Venmar's claim is there even a case on TD? Something other than oh he was scum last time please.
RM wrote:Could you explain your case on him, besides the whole thing with Venmar?
RM wrote:I gather from that that Notty is basically an Innocent Child mod verified?
RM wrote:Could someone let me know who the heads of the hydrae are?
A bunch of quotes from RM with questions that should have been self-apparent to anyone even skimming the game. I added some that you left out to further illustrate the point. All of these are pointless questions that she should either already know the answer to, or should be able to find out with 30 seconds of reading. What this actually looks like to me is RM-scum thinking, "If I ask these questions, maybe I'll look like I'm town who is curious!" or something along those lines.
RM wrote:peeps with votes on Venmar need to like remove them for a bit, the claim will sort itself out soon enough.
This is nothing but fence-sitting. It doesn't suggest anything about her thoughts on Venmar, just that the PGO claim isn't necessarily scummy. She isn't accountable for anything here, so regardless of whatever you think it implies, it doesn't actually mean anything. You can't look back at this and go, "oh, but she thought he was town here!" if she later calls him scum. Also this is
exactly
what I imagine RM-scum would say about this - it is the most simple and basic example of fence-sitting and pretending to be busy.
RM wrote:Want to take a look at the interplay tween B n B and SoS
I do realize of course that the Mollie head and the fery head are long time friends from another site, but want to be sure it is not being used as a cover for buddying.
This is nothing more than a throwaway comment. I would agree that it could be perceived as town
if she actually followed it up with anything
but she never does. What this actually looks like to me is RM-scum just throwing this out there to look like she's being busy when she's actually not doing anything productive at all. You'd have a case for calling her town if she did anything with this, but the far more likely scenario here is RM-scum throwing this out and doing nothing with it (I am aware that you think she did something with this, but I'll get to that in a bit). Do you imagine RM-scum would have said it differently or just not commented on it or something?
RM wrote:Cause though I can see how that would look scummy, the fact we have a wagon build up this fast this early before everyone has even posted kinda sets up my scumdar a tad.
RM wrote:Whether TD is scum or town I am not sure on, but I am leaning town cause that wagon hell Nacho has not even posted yet..... And a few others as well. 8 of 11 votes? Cmon guys n gals we need to examine those on his wagon duh.
These are just throwaway comments. They mean nothing. You can't hold her to a read here or ask her to explain anything, because there
is no read
. There's no accountability in this statement. She's not saying she thinks TD is town and the wagon is bad, or she thinks TD is scum but the wagon has her doubting this, she's just saying the wagon was quick, and it should be examined. And again, this is another throwaway comment because she never actually
does anything
with this... It's another useless statement and far more likely to come from RM-scum than RM-town.
RM wrote:No need to get worried Mollie just I am not 100% sold that both your slot and hers are town. Given time will be better at sorting it out. And part of that would be finding out if its just hey we know each other or that you are playing buddy buddy knowing peeps would think it too blatant to be buddying. As Jiffy and Syr post that will help too.
This is not a followup of her earlier statement about looking into the interplay between SoS and BnB. This is nothing. Literally nothing. It doesn't show she's done anything more to look into it than she did way back when she first said she'd look into it, and there's absolutely nothing here that she can be held accountable for as a read.
And here's the thing mastin, I could deconstruct her entire ISO and show that not only the above stuff points to her being likely scum, but that she has quite literally done no scum hunting, given no reads that she can be held accountable for, has not voted anyone yet, and has basically coasted through the game mostly unnoticed or ignored for reasons I'm not quite able to comprehend at this point in time.
You say she's trying to figure things out? No. Mac is an example of someone trying to figure things out. He's been asking game-relevant questions, giving his positions on players, etc. Compare this to RM and you'd be lying if you actually said she's been trying to figure anything out in this game.
The fact you think all this makes her town and that there's nothing scummy about all this is intriguing.
