Xenogears Mafia (Game Over)

[Sound of Silence]

Oh God... now the issue with Notscience and Rach living together...

You are mixing up Nobody Special with notscience.

[Sound of Silence]

@895Be careful mollie, if you keep grasping at straws that hard, you'll break them, and then you won't be able to keep drinking whatever hard liquor you were drinking when you made that post. Can yall like talk about reads before the end of day one? Is there some reason why have to wait for the first night to talk?

Because mollie's day 1 reads are usually better than Majiffy's. There's no sense amalgamating them until Majiffy has cardflips and associations to work with.

Majiffy's voting as scum usually is a lot more manipulative than what I am seeing here. He kicked the wheels off the TD speedwagon. It's possible he'd do that for a scumbuddy, but he is not at all shy about bussing.

[Sound of Silence]

I keep talking to you like you are town, Nick. I think my brain agrees with my gut.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

reads are bad bad bad, and if I had a go at it I would say that he is either bussing ftl (it is around that time)

It's this one.

Look at the way FTL calls out TD for voting him for weak reasons under pressure, but doesn't even bat an eye at Nick, who is doing

exactly that

.

Oh God... now the issue with Notscience and Rach living together...

No, Rach lives with NobodySpecial. She's saying she refers to notscience as Notty because NobSpec is commonly referred to as NS.

@895Be careful mollie, if you keep grasping at straws that hard, you'll break them, and then you won't be able to keep drinking whatever hard liquor you were drinking when you made that post. Can yall like talk about reads before the end of day one? Is there some reason why have to wait for the first night to talk?

Can we get some more votes on this scumbutt please? ^

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

I keep talking to you like you are town, Nick. I think my brain agrees with my gut.

I think urdoinitwrong

[notscience]

I keep talking to you like you are town, Nick. I think my brain agrees with my gut.

I think urdoinitwrong

QFT

[Sound of Silence]

I keep talking to you like you are town, Nick. I think my brain agrees with my gut.

I think urdoinitwrong

If I am, I'll have to figure that out on my own. You know how I feel about your day 1 reads. Doesn't matter what I think your alignment is.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

town

not science - obviously, and I am with aj he is a terrible choice for a vig shot. confrimed town is always good and in case anybody hasn't noticed ns is actively trying to work with his town reads which is good town play imo, he just isn't being super obvious about it. I think people are preferring style over substance here and I don't think he should be outright dismissed.

sounds of silence - town

mac - town. as I already said, mac's reachout to me looks very genuine he is a gut player and he also works off of other players reads. strong asset to town and the push on him looks very very scum motivated.

aj - it had to do with what he said about td and how his play in this game is completely different than in xeno 1 cos it sooooooo is and anybody who was in that game ought to know that. he was clear and detailed and it didn't look fabricated at all.

td - I get his reaction as I have already said in xeno 1 all he did was try to look harmless lol. in this game he is making a spectacle of himself and taking a lot of heat and his frustration looks town.

venny - frustrated special. I am trying to reach out to him and draw him in and I hope I will eventually get somewhere with him

trust fund - feels very town.

bro - I am putting him here cos of the liar tell thing and he is nitpicking words in posts and putting them together to create some type of scum interpretation of them and I have to say that for him it reads as town. he seems uncertain and unconfident but when he thinks he finds something he is all like "aha!" and gets excited about it.

thez - feels town.

malacat - unsure. her frustration wit majiffy's push comes across as genuine mebbe but I am not the best at reading her.

ghostlin - unsure mebbe town. I had trouble reading him in xeno 1, he is a read I will probably leave up to majiffy.

nacho - unsure, mebbe town. I need to interact with him more.

muffin - mebbe town, I kind of get that vibe.

rach - leaning scum and I just feel like I should have a better sense of her right now. I think she did a ginormous of slipping there for a bit cos it was very clear that she was not keeping up with the thread. she has been repeatedly asked to give out her reads and she has yet to do so.

fil - no fucking idea. biggest null ever

mastin - unsure. he and I are either on the same page on most things or he is scum who is very good at predicting herd mentality. I am not sure if he would be able to predict it this early though so I am going to treat him as town for a bit and see how that feels.

desp - him asking me why I thought andy's post looked scummy gave me the feeling that it was scum who saw a townie do something unexpected and wanted to know what they look for. mala that is what I was talking about with thad in that game. I am finding that to be a decent tell for this site when coming from experienced players. so unsure mebbe scummy. I got my eye on him.

nicky - already said what I thought about him.

skull - <------scuuuuuuuuuuum. needs to be lynched with fire.

andy - scum, strong meta reasons.

so people of interest I am going to be watching like a hawk are nicky, skull, andy, rach, desp and fil. gonna dance a bit with mastin.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

You know how I feel about your day 1 reads. Doesn't matter what I think your alignment is.

[Sound of Silence]

You know how I feel about your day 1 reads. Doesn't matter what I think your alignment is.

Buzzword Bingo. DragonballZ.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

[mastin2]

Hi guys, sorry for the delay. Got a reminder last night that I have a wedding to attend today.

...Well, sorta. I couldn't actually attend it (even though I really, REALLY wanted to*), but I'll be watching a livestream of the wedding (with luck, anyway), and thus, not online here. (A one-day declaration of V/LA, you could say.) I'll see what I can do today. (Seven pages back, on 30.) And as a general warning--it's quite obvious I've got pretty much zero confidence and hate my play because of it. From here-on out, I'm just going to flat-out lie about my confidence. Being wrong but being 'confident' (but not really) about it, at this point, would be better than maybe-eventually-being-right while in the meantime sucking hardcore. I can't change the (lack of) confidence in my reads. I can change how I am perceived, though. It'll be the Mastin you are more familiar with, even though it's a lie. Who knows, that change of appearance might actually be the spark I need.

*The people being married are two online friends of mine from another site. Crazy lovers.

[Sound of Silence]

If I am, I'll have to figure that out on my own.

[nickthename]

Hi guys, sorry for the delay. Got a reminder last night that I have a wedding to attend today.

...Well, sorta. I couldn't actually attend it (even though I really, REALLY wanted to*), but I'll be watching a livestream of the wedding (with luck, anyway), and thus, not online here. (A one-day declaration of V/LA, you could say.) I'll see what I can do today. (Seven pages back, on 30.) And as a general warning--it's quite obvious I've got pretty much zero confidence and hate my play because of it. From here-on out, I'm just going to flat-out lie about my confidence. Being wrong but being 'confident' (but not really) about it, at this point, would be better than maybe-eventually-being-right while in the meantime sucking hardcore. I can't change the (lack of) confidence in my reads. I can change how I am perceived, though. It'll be the Mastin you are more familiar with, even though it's a lie. Who knows, that change of appearance might actually be the spark I need.

*The people being married are two online friends of mine from another site. Crazy lovers.

Nonononononononono. How the hell would lying about your confidence in your reads help town? Thats bullshit.

Being wrong but being 'confident' (but not really) about it, at this point, would be better than maybe-eventually-being-right while in the meantime sucking hardcore.

I just can't get over how incredibly wrong this is. Being confident about incorrect reads is good? WTF are you smoking?

[notscience]

Mollie can you elaborate a bit on why you have ftl in the null?

Is it both heads are null or one is scummy one isn't or what?

[TiphaineDeath]

Nick votes are bad, and you should feel bad.

[notscience]

So, good to see his buddying worked on you.

[TiphaineDeath]

Meh, he's the only one in this game who has managed to see mac scum. You'll excuse me if I don't want him lynched.

[notscience]

...

maybe because Mac's not scum

and he is using you to try and push a mislynch

You didn't deny his buddying not having any effect though.

[TiphaineDeath]

If by buddying you mean realizing mac is scum and I'm not? Yes, it's having an effect. I would 1v1 mac right now if it wasn't an incredibly stupid move on d1, I am that fucking confident.

[notscience]

So, Mac is scum for you why? Pushing you?

And what happened after that- Oh, wait! Nick WK'd the fuck out of you.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

Is it both heads are null or one is scummy one isn't or what?

Nope, I'm reading FTL as scum.

Nick votes are bad, and you should feel bad.

Nope.

[Varsoon]

reads are bad bad bad, and if I had a go at it I would say that he is either bussing ftl (it is around that time)

It's this one.

Look at the way FTL calls out TD for voting him for weak reasons under pressure, but doesn't even bat an eye at Nick, who is doing

exactly that

.

Oh God... now the issue with Notscience and Rach living together...

No, Rach lives with NobodySpecial. She's saying she refers to notscience as Notty because NobSpec is commonly referred to as NS.

@895Be careful mollie, if you keep grasping at straws that hard, you'll break them, and then you won't be able to keep drinking whatever hard liquor you were drinking when you made that post. Can yall like talk about reads before the end of day one? Is there some reason why have to wait for the first night to talk?

Can we get some more votes on this scumbutt please? ^

@Nickthename: He didn't? Holy shit, you're right. I must've misread his 128, it's a lot more clear now that he's just pissed at how Venmar played his PGO claim. I've never hydra'd with metal sonic, but we've got several PMs sent between us trying to get in touch. Skype isn't letting our messages hit each other, and MS isn't responding to me in the MafiaChat, so I just PM'd him my facebook account, so I hope he'll get in touch with me through that. MS plays this sort of way in all of his games, which is why I hydra'd with him. I'm usually way more long-winded and I focus on individual posts a lot. MS is tangental and assess the game as a whole, his posts seeming disconnected from the post-by-post discussion. Also, I can never fucking read him, so I'd rather be on his side than not.

-V

Fairly certain this addresses Nick's concerns about my slot.

-V

[notscience]

Majiffy, I meant why Mollie had them as null.

[TiphaineDeath]

@ post 920, I have made a mac case, your continual dismissal of such as "he was pushing you" is both disgusting and pathetic if not moronic.