La Isla de la Muerte (Game over!)

[JasonWazza]

Because his scum? Obvious MUCH?

[PeregrineV]

I didn't think it before, but maybe something happened in the last 5 pages that made him be scum all of the sudden. Guess I'll go read it.

[PeregrineV]

What would a Scum player have to gain by faking a post restriction, though?

Reduce the number of posts they have to make.

Decrease legibility of the posts, to make them harder to understand.

Make reading it more of a challenge in order to have town skip over it.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=26390

[PeregrineV]

@Baby Spice, compromising on a lynch isn't town behavior, especially when it's an opportunistic compromise.

And who cares if you've town read PV? That doesn't mean he's automatically right.

Town is always compromising on lynches, that's how mislynches are avoided.

and considering the smaller size of your wagon, where is scum Baby Spice scum motive to move to vote you instead of Zoidberg or anyone else for that matter?

[PeregrineV]

504

UNVOTE:

Crap. Now I don't know what to think.

More time (and possibly gin) required.

So post 504 changed your mind from what you were originally thinking about <topic>?

I see no mention of <topic>, ever, in your preceeding posts.

I would like to here more, in detail, about how 504 changed your mind (or caused doubt) about <topic>.

[PeregrineV]

What is the penalty for slipping on a post restriction?

VOTE: unvote

I like Zoidberg's last post a lot. Those posts make me think Desperado was trying to create a mental illusion more were voting for Zoidberg.

The combination of "I don't care if you lynch me", "I didn't say I was VT", and "just let me claim" really struck a town chord with you?

[PeregrineV]

HH smells like a Zoid counterwagon to me. Did everyone forget about Zoid's weakass reaction to his wagon + blatant misrep and vote on me? Dude is caught.

I get the same feeling.

[PeregrineV]

Well, that was way less unpleasant than I thought it'd be. Let's go for the recap.

[PeregrineV]

Baby Spice replaces Sakura Hana- Called me town. Almost a scumtell by itself. I like for town but natural BabySpice caution tells me to tone it down to null-town+squinty eyes.
Belisarius - Big fat scumvibe.
boxxy- Morse code post restriction?
Desperado - null-town
Formerfish replaces Mitzi (hydra of Metal Sonic and Marquis)- Like the posting style, but the replace in post not as much. Nothing specific though. Null-scum
Hydrochloric Hydra (hydra of TheIrishPope and GuyInFreezer)- Curse of the hydra expectation. I have higher expectations for hydras. Including non-total derping. I could see where he's town, but would like more in the form of work/proof from him. Could also see where his play would benefit him as scum. But, benefit of doubt to hydracolon hydra.
JasonWazza- probtown, but........
Karnage- I think I saw one post in the past few pages. Didn't like it. null-scum
Klick- Fighting with Saki and only Saki. null-scum
mnemonicdevice replaces TMTOLBTWNTOF- slight nulltown- But if your not replaced then expect improved posting.
Saki- staying current but not helpful. Null
SalmonellaDoctor (hydra of DoctorPepper and SalmonellaDreams)- Voted Baby Spice in 506 but has been represented as voting Saki for the last 5 pages. Apparently doesn't care who they are voting. Was hoping being pressured would improve posting, but it hasn't happened yet. Scummy.
Skullduggery- town. Find myself saying agreeing with her posts and how she reaches her conclusions, questions.
Ten_Heavens- Null
Titus replaces waynegg- Electroshock therapy. Too null, want more town posting.
Who- name speaks for itself. Null
Zoidberg- You'll never break the day1=laize-faire if you don't try. Because right now your posts suck and your scummy.

[Belisarius]

So post 504 changed your mind from what you were originally thinking about <topic>?

I see no mention of <topic>, ever, in your preceeding posts.

I would like to here more, in detail, about how 504 changed your mind (or caused doubt) about <topic>.

<topic> would be Baby Spice's alignment; 504 is the kind of goodposting that chews up scumreads and shits them out, and then the shit fertilises the soil so a massive field of beautiful, town-scented flowers can grow.

[PeregrineV]

So post 504 changed your mind from what you were originally thinking about <topic>?

I see no mention of <topic>, ever, in your preceeding posts.

I would like to here more, in detail, about how 504 changed your mind (or caused doubt) about <topic>.

<topic> would be Baby Spice's alignment; 504 is the kind of goodposting that chews up scumreads and shits them out, and then the shit fertilises the soil so a massive field of beautiful, town-scented flowers can grow.

So that post made you rethink your suspicion of that playerslot based on Sakura's previous piling on the Jason wagon, correct?

Spoiler: Yes.

Spoiler: No, you got it all wrong.

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE COUNT

boxxy (1): Hydrochloric Hydra
Baby Spice (1): SalmonellaDoctor
Desperado (1): Zoidberg
Hydrochloric Hydra (4): JasonWazza, Baby Spice, Formerfish, Belisarius
JasonWazza (1): Ten_Heavens
Saki (2): boxxy, Karnage
SalmonellaDoctor (1): PeregrineV
Titus (1): Saki
Zoidberg (5): Desperado, Skullduggery, mnemonicdevice, Klick, Who
Not voting (1): Titus

With

18

players alive, it takes

10

votes to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2013-08-19 08:25:57).

@mod: the latest VC says "Hydrochloric Hydra (1): JasonWazza, Baby Spice". is that accurate?

No. In my games, if the number of names listed do not match the posted number, then something is wrong, even in bastard mod games. The post has been changed to assume two votes on HH are correct; if this is still wrong, please let me know.

The above post count is my best belief as to what is correct based on what was PM'd to me.

[Klick]

SC, you did it again

VOTE: Saki

This vote is no longer because she's not trying, but rather because she's breaking her policy of not trying on Day 1 when some votes get put on her.

[StrangerCoug]

Well, then. Case in point.

[Belisarius]

igmeou:

Watch away, you might learn something.

[Baby Spice]

I have always maintained that I read people better right after a good scum fame with them.

[Titus]

What's a good scum fame Baby Spice?

[Skullduggery]

What did you "fuck up"? Faking a post restriction? What does that have to do with your role? Why claim now?

I kind of forgot we were faking and posted normally and fucked up

Because, Jason, fuck, everyone's got a cool ass post restriction and we are VTs

Because being VT iz srs bizz.

That...still doesn't answer my question, though. You could have fessed up to faking the post restriction without saying that you're a VT. Nobody asked you to claim. You were under no pressure to claim. So why did you claim?

If you can't be BOTHERED.

With realizing where i'm VOTING.

Then why should i be?

Bothered to explain the MEANING?

Because if you don't explain why you're voting for a certain person, it's perfectly reasonable to believe that it's because you

can't

. If you can't explain your position, then it's also perfectly reasonable to believe that it's because your position is fabricated. Does Town need to fabricate their positions?

As for the other QUESTION.

It was me explaining FOOL.

That it's normal for SCUM.

To fake bus early ON.

Okay. So again I ask: who was fake bussing?

Follow-up question: how do you know it was fake?

What is a scum motivation for us to claim VT?

Specifically so you could ask this question and plunge us into WIFOM.

Also if it wasn't damn obvious to you guys, tippy claimed VT to show that we actually don't have any PR.

And yet, that still doesn't address the basic issue that

you could have said you had no post restriction without claiming your role goddamnit you guys

Just a WPWT.

I'm not familiar with this abbreviation. What does it mean?

What would a Scum player have to gain by faking a post restriction, though?

Reduce the number of posts they have to make.

Decrease legibility of the posts, to make them harder to understand.

Make reading it more of a challenge in order to have town skip over it.

All good points that I did not consider. Thank you.


Keeping my vote on Zoidberg for now, but I wouldn't object to Hydrochloric Hydra or JasonWazza either. Not really feelin' any other lynch at the moment.

[JasonWazza]

If you can't be BOTHERED.

With realizing where i'm VOTING.

Then why should i be?

Bothered to explain the MEANING?

Because if you don't explain why you're voting for a certain person, it's perfectly reasonable to believe that it's because you

can't

. If you can't explain your position, then it's also perfectly reasonable to believe that it's because your position is fabricated. Does Town need to fabricate their positions?

As for the other QUESTION.

It was me explaining FOOL.

That it's normal for SCUM.

To fake bus early ON.

Okay. So again I ask: who was fake bussing?

Follow-up question: how do you know it was fake?

Tell me your being DENSE.

Like seriously, it's not HARD.

I'm voting HH, BS RIGHT.

I'm not voting SD FOOL.

So obviously i think TOWN.

Is what SD is OK?

You following so far SKULL?

Secondly i never said THAT.

Fake-bussing actually occured, i IMPLIED.

That it can happen UNDERSTAND?

[Hydrochloric Hydra]

Oh lordy
Is it that hard to understand?
Tippy claimed it as the meaning to "hey guys I actually have no post restriction. I'm just a boring VT."

Right. We were not in pressure. We had "no reason" to claim.
But if this still doesn't answer your question, then how about this?
"Just because." Does this answer it now?

Also WPWT = Wrong Place (at the) Wrong Time

[Baby Spice]

Titus, a scum game where there isgood interaction and teamwork between the team in the chat etc.

[Formerfish]

So to everyone not on the Hydro or Zoid wagons, do you think these guys are both inno? Is one more scummy than the other? What would it take for you to vote for one of them?

@Hydro- your attempt at explaining the reasoning behind claiming boils down to "just because?" That makes me feel even better about my vote on you.

[Titus]

I'm not really liking how the VT thing blew up around HH. Scum is likely there somewhere but I cannot put my finger on it. HH almost seems too easy and my gut screams at me to stop if the answer is too easy.

[Desperado]

I'm not really liking how the VT thing blew up around HH. Scum is likely there somewhere but I cannot put my finger on it. HH almost seems too easy and my gut screams at me to stop if the answer is too easy.

Right. We already knew that HH was the zoid counterwagon. So let's just get back to lynchin Zoid.

[Hydrochloric Hydra]

So to everyone not on the Hydro or Zoid wagons, do you think these guys are both inno? Is one more scummy than the other? What would it take for you to vote for one of them?

@Hydro- your attempt at explaining the reasoning behind claiming boils down to "just because?" That makes me feel even better about my vote on you.

Your selective reading is very well noted.