Mini 1468: Legends of the Hidden Temple- Game Over!

[serrapaladin]

Majiffy, you know you're really not convincing people, so I really don't get why you insist on being smug about this.

[Majiffy]

I don't really care at this point. There isn't a single justified vote on me, so the townies in the wagon will have to deal with that when I flip.

[qwints]

Serra, are you saying you think all 3 people in the pool right now are town?

[Haschel Cedricson]

The pool of players eligible to be lynched today consists of:

Majiffy
pirate mollie

serrapaladin

Here are the current votes:

serrapaladin(4) - qwints, AngryPidgeon, Majiffy, Venmar
Majiffy(3) - Wisdom, pirate mollie, SeraphicMirth
pirate mollie(0) -

Not Voting (1) - serrapaladin

With 8 players alive, it will take 5 votes to lynch.

[Wisdom]

Look at all the scum on the serra wagon

[Majiffy]

VOTE: Pirate Mollie

There are too many people getting quiet on my wagon when momentum slows in favor of Serra wagon.

[serrapaladin]

Serra, are you saying you think all 3 people in the pool right now are town?

Well, maybe...

For Majiffy to be scum, he either needs to be pulling a crazy gambit with his scumbuddy mollie, or he challenged her in the hope that people would still lynch me. In the latter case, I really think it would have been easier and safer to just go after me directly.

For mollie to be scum, my strongest townread throughout the first half of the game has to be wrong.

I don't particularly like either. I really have a problem with the wagon distribution though.

If Majiffy is scum, surely there would be someone bussing at the moment. I don't think it'd be sera or mollie, so that would mean Majiffy/Wis, which would surprise me.

If Majiffy is town and right about mollie, scum would be mollie and 2 out of qwints/AP/Venmar, which sort of makes more sense. Except that I think mollie is town.

Or maybe all three scum are actually on my wagon. Scum have daytalk, right? So I guess scum coordination will be different than in standard games.

Whichever way, I would much prefer to be able to vote someone that isn't mollie or Majiffy.

Wisdom, do you actually think all scum are currently voting for me?

[qwints]

Majiffy didn't challenge Mollie. He's on her team, so any challenge he made had to involve her.

[serrapaladin]

Yeah, but he claimed that he challenged so he could see mollie's reaction, which I'm inclined to believe. I suppose that leaves the question of why he challenged my slot in particular to test mollie, but Grim was sort the next most obvious target. If town-Majiffy did want to go after mollie, I don't see why he would have challenged anyone different.

[Wisdom]

So if you wanted to lynch your partner you would challenge someone who is much more likely to get lynched than the person you want lynched? Think that through again... nope. It's fake. He knew your slot would get lynched over mollie.

[Wisdom]

Wisdom, do you actually think all scum are currently voting for me?

Majiffy changed his vote, but in the last votecount all 4 of my scumspects were voting you, yes.

[serrapaladin]

Look, I know what you're saying, but why the whole sidetracking thing with mollie?

All it did was antagonise her and bring him closer to being lynched. I think had he either not challenged at all, or challenged my slot and gone after grim hard, he would be in better standing now. Surely he must have anticipated taking flak for the challenge, so that just sounds like arbitrary and frankly bad play for scum-Majiffy.

[serrapaladin]

And see, I really don't buy that no scum would be bussing Majiffy at this point.

[Wisdom]

I don't see why they would. If the plan is to get your slot lynched, that's who they'll push. qwints' "let's do what we should have done yesterday" is especially indicative of this.

[Wisdom]

You do have a point about his antagonizing mollie though. The only explanation I can think of is mollie being also scum and the whole thing being done so she can earn cred by bussing him.
.. or him being actually town.

[Wisdom]

Meh.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: mollie

[AngryPidgeon]

right, so when Mollie flips town I'll be revisiting the above 2 posts in particular.

[AngryPidgeon]

And see, I really don't buy that no scum would be bussing Majiffy at this point.

Why exactly? Town is two mislynches away from losing, its not that hard to believe that scum would just be playing to win right now.

This feels like posturing.

[AngryPidgeon]

Serra, are you saying you think all 3 people in the pool right now are town?

Come on qwints, you aren't dumb. What do you think hes saying?

So if you wanted to lynch your partner you would challenge someone who is much more likely to get lynched than the person you want lynched? Think that through again... nope. It's fake. He knew your slot would get lynched over mollie.

And he didn't even bother to think about himself getting lynched when at least 3 people have been talking about it?

frankly bad play for scum-Majiffy.

Yes exactly. This post is insightful.

I don't see why they would. If the plan is to get your slot lynched, that's who they'll push. qwints' "let's do what we should have done yesterday" is especially indicative of this.

So the people that want to lynch Serra are scum or town? Why would scum majiffy care that his SCUMBUDDIES support lynching Serra.

Oh god there are 2 serras now and both need death.

[AngryPidgeon]

Fuck it, Wisdom can be scum too. Majiffy is town. Venmar is voting scum so I dont really care. Qwints is town. Mollie is lurkaderp town.

That mollie hop is so fake its unreal.

"But ya Majiffy is still scum. And getting people to ML Sera. And hmm, well maybe hes town and mollies scum, OK COOL"

[Wisdom]

serra's point about Majiffy not having to antagonize mollie is very good - either they're both scum and she's bussing him as part of the plan or Majiffy is actually town (and therefore mollie likely scum).

[AngryPidgeon]

Who voicing support for the Sera lynch is town?

[AngryPidgeon]

All it did was antagonise her and bring him closer to being lynched.

Lol, this is not a revelation.

I've been bringing up that Makiffy is doing OBJECTIVELY ANTI-SCUM THINGS for him to be doing and you and venmar have been derping about it and assigning it to "town cred"

[Wisdom]

If mollie is scum, you probably are town.
How do you feel about mollie/Venmar/qwints?

[AngryPidgeon]

Why would mollie-scum make me likely town?

At LEAST one of the Sera's are scum. Not seeing qwints at all. I might buy Venmar/Mollie/Seraphic.