Xenogears Mafia (Game Over)

[Nachomamma8]

Unless ofc I'm missing something here you weren't banned for claiming.

his trust tell was claiming that he was town

[Nachomamma8]

but we'll also know that FTL is definitely scum.

nope

[Nachomamma8]

Not townreading Nacho atm.

are you townreading rach?

[Faster Than Light]

@Mala: Dude, don't be such a shitlord. Please.
First of all, if Mastin defends me, it doesn't automatically make him scum just because you're reading me as scum. That's a shitty offense and it absolutely waives aside the points Mastin is bringing to the table. Yeah, I think it might be buddying to step in when my wagon's at like 5 or 6 and say "No, wait, FTL is town" without being prompted to do so, but that's a line of inquiry I'll be following on my own, later.
Secondly, you're not very well read if you think that my ban was a straight-forward Trust-Tell case. Read the 'Pooky Tell' thread and stop being such a narrow-sighted player. I even talked about how

I knew someone would bring this up

in the Pooky Tell thread. We can discuss why my ban was made on shortsightedness and how it perpetuates that narrow-minded approach

after

this game. Right now, though, it's taking everything inside of me to backspace every swear and insult I've written, because I am

SERIOUSLY

tired about talking about this issue. If players continue to bring it up in my games, I'm going to just quit this site. It's not fun to have people blindly parrot mods who were too blind to realize that my play wasn't what they accused me of.
Third off, I've already dispelled your assault on me in this game, Mala. At this point, I don't even know what you're doing other than poking your head in to scream "VARSOON IS SCUM" every other post, without giving reasons why you're so damn persistent in reading my slot as so. It feels like you're pushing a wagon that other players agree with and you're trying to launch it over the cliff without town getting and damn content out of it. It makes my blood boil, and I'm shaking right now because I'm so upset thanks to this and my earlier point. I'm seeing your line of inquiry/incitement as an attempt to get me to 'slip further', which is an intangible assault that's easily sheeped and denies info and worthwhile wagon analysis.
Fourth, it's irksome that Nacho didn't respond to me at all. I hate how everyone ignores the things I have to say unless they want to push my damn lynch. I've made really good points, I feel, and I've asked players some good questions that'll really inform how I feel about them and others, and I'm feeling like I'm only here to get bullied and ignored. It's a horrible game environment and I'm very tempted to replace out or just let MS take charge or something.
Fifth, I wish that Notscience would give more in-depth reads and analysis, since at least I won't have to WIFOM it five ways to sunday before I can trust it.
Sixth, I really like Nick's recent play and interactions, especially here with Desperado. I don't know how to feel about Desperado yet.
Finally, I don't like Sound of Silence's posts, especially because GiF always buddies me regardless of his alignment. The minimalism from that slot is a real headache.

I've erased so many 'Fuck You's in this post, and I still hate how I come off.
Mala, leave my other games out of this one. I am tempted to push a case on you based on how deceitful and inflammatory you've been so far, but as one player to another, outside of this singular game, it makes me not want to play. At all. It pisses me off. A lot. Please, this as as kind as I can be right now. Stop it.


-V

[Sound of Silence]

Not townreading Nacho atm.

are you townreading rach?

GiF is.

We're not going to vote her based on what is currently in the thread, most likely.

How is Andy town?

Mastin looks like really, really lost town to me right now.

[Desperado]

but we'll also know that FTL is definitely scum.

nope

Why not?

[Nachomamma8]

How is Andy town?

gut.

Mastin looks like really, really lost town to me right now.

he doesn't seem THAT lost.
but you will need to draw the N2 NK for him because it's going to take a while for him to be awesome this game, probably.

but we'll also know that FTL is definitely scum.

nope

Why not?

neither of them have done anything even a little bit scummy which is extraordinarily surprising, considering the hydra.

[Sound of Silence]

How is Andy town?

gut.

I'll have to trust you before I trust your gut. It's a multistep process, and it's probably faster to just do what I can to sort Andy for myself. When he posts again.

Mastin looks like really, really lost town to me right now.

he doesn't seem THAT lost.

I have a relatively small experiential metabase to draw on.

but you will need to draw the N2 NK for him because it's going to take a while for him to be awesome this game, probably.

That can probably be arranged . :/

[Malakittens]

@Mala: Dude, don't be such a shitlord. Please.
First of all, if Mastin defends me, it doesn't automatically make him scum just because you're reading me as scum. That's a shitty offense and it absolutely waives aside the points Mastin is bringing to the table. Yeah, I think it might be buddying to step in when my wagon's at like 5 or 6 and say "No, wait, FTL is town" without being prompted to do so, but that's a line of inquiry I'll be following on my own, later.
Secondly, you're not very well read if you think that my ban was a straight-forward Trust-Tell case. Read the 'Pooky Tell' thread and stop being such a narrow-sighted player. I even talked about how

I knew someone would bring this up

in the Pooky Tell thread. We can discuss why my ban was made on shortsightedness and how it perpetuates that narrow-minded approach

after

this game. Right now, though, it's taking everything inside of me to backspace every swear and insult I've written, because I am

SERIOUSLY

tired about talking about this issue. If players continue to bring it up in my games, I'm going to just quit this site. It's not fun to have people blindly parrot mods who were too blind to realize that my play wasn't what they accused me of.
Third off, I've already dispelled your assault on me in this game, Mala. At this point, I don't even know what you're doing other than poking your head in to scream "VARSOON IS SCUM" every other post, without giving reasons why you're so damn persistent in reading my slot as so. It feels like you're pushing a wagon that other players agree with and you're trying to launch it over the cliff without town getting and damn content out of it. It makes my blood boil, and I'm shaking right now because I'm so upset thanks to this and my earlier point. I'm seeing your line of inquiry/incitement as an attempt to get me to 'slip further', which is an intangible assault that's easily sheeped and denies info and worthwhile wagon analysis.
Fourth, it's irksome that Nacho didn't respond to me at all. I hate how everyone ignores the things I have to say unless they want to push my damn lynch. I've made really good points, I feel, and I've asked players some good questions that'll really inform how I feel about them and others, and I'm feeling like I'm only here to get bullied and ignored. It's a horrible game environment and I'm very tempted to replace out or just let MS take charge or something.
Fifth, I wish that Notscience would give more in-depth reads and analysis, since at least I won't have to WIFOM it five ways to sunday before I can trust it.
Sixth, I really like Nick's recent play and interactions, especially here with Desperado. I don't know how to feel about Desperado yet.
Finally, I don't like Sound of Silence's posts, especially because GiF always buddies me regardless of his alignment. The minimalism from that slot is a real headache.

I've erased so many 'Fuck You's in this post, and I still hate how I come off.
Mala, leave my other games out of this one. I am tempted to push a case on you based on how deceitful and inflammatory you've been so far, but as one player to another, outside of this singular game, it makes me not want to play. At all. It pisses me off. A lot. Please, this as as kind as I can be right now. Stop it.


-V

There is so many person attacks/insults in this post right here making me just want to replace out and say fuck this game currently. You know even if you are ragey there is a way to avoid posting things like this. At least please learn to control your temper, thanks.

I'm being deceitful and inflammatory?

If you think I'm scum reading Mastin just because he's defending you.. You have another thing coming. I already presented why he pinged gut when I was catching up.

Mastin and you are probably both scum and I'll figure out who the others are once I have solid flips to look at.

[Desperado]

neither of them have done anything even a little bit scummy which is extraordinarily surprising, considering the hydra.

That's a huge stretch Nacho.

[Nachomamma8]

neither of them have done anything even a little bit scummy which is extraordinarily surprising, considering the hydra.

That's a huge stretch Nacho.

it sounds like it, right?
but these two are town take that to the bank and cash it in for a fine townie check.

[Aj The Epic]

Hey Thezmon (or Nacho, since you're here), please tell me you're seeing Mala as scum. It almost feels like a bus at this point, she's so tunnel-centric on FTL. I'd go so far as call it basic scum tactic 101, man. We see this all the time, so if you want to help me lynch this, that'd be great.

[Faster Than Light]

I have problems with the following posts:

Spoiler:

How the hell is that a liar tell?

Then why are you reading us wrong?

Ftr that's a lot of scum reads.

Also I'm scum because I'm reading you as scum?

Please, please tell me that's not true.

Predit:

Mollie why. I joined because I wanted to play with you >_>

Yep, fuck this shit. The next person to call me scum off my ISO receives my damn vote. I'm not fucking done catching up.

Give me time Jiffy.. Give me time..

Yep, fuck this shit. The next person to call me scum off my ISO receives my damn vote. I'm not fucking done catching up.

Being caught up is not alignment-indicative.

Give me time Jiffy.. Give me time..

Um let me think about that.

No. You're scum-reading us, yeah? Give me reasons. Otherwise, I call bullshit.

Calling me scum off my ISO without me being fully caught up is the most stupidest fucking thing I have seen. It's like not even giving me a freaking chance.

Want to know why? I don't see town-Mollie at all in the 15 pages I read before replacing in. She's more "out spoken, aggressive and hunting for reads" and so far she isn't. I am scum reading you guys do to that and I already said that when I asked for Fery's explanation, but damn if I knew Mollie was going to rage-replace out due to Fery's answer I would have never asked in the first place.

Keep calling me bullshit when I already made the comment, but I never noted specifics.

This.is.not.town.Mollie.

VOTE: BeautyAndTheBeast

For what it's worth I see town-Mollie on Page 13.

Wow, okay..

VOTE: Faster than the light

Holy fucking scum-tell Batman.

Someone REALLY cares about how they look right now.

I have a town-read Cabd. He's trying to work with Fery also and he did that during Vox's game.

Zmuffinman - Can you give me links on Mastin's accuracy to read you? I thought the same until he tricked me. Every time he called me scum that game I got a knee jerk reaction and kept wanting to call him scum.. Then he bused his team mate and I believed his every words on his "vow to never bus his team mate" and I allowed him to become my strongest town read and then he flipped scum. I was a very, very sad kitten.

Ooh, I like Themonz's 506. I'm not seeing AJ town though. Anyone want to clue me in on why AJ is town?

ZMuffin.. That's actually just normal for Rach in any alignment. She tends to do that =\

Am I the only one who didn't like Ghostlin's 517? Mainly because I haven't seen much hunting from him, but he's calling other people out on not doing it..

I don't like this by FTL. Can you please tell me how using wagon analysis without a flip works well?..

I think I agree with you Notscience.

Welp, I don't like 568 by TD. He's really caring how he looks and he's trying to stay calm to avoid {possibly} another wagon on him?

Bad gut feel by Rach's post 570

However I do like TD's 575.

Okay and I'm caught kinda up to where I was when I replaced in.

BYEEEEEEE I'm going to play league now since they are rushing me to finish!!

Thanks mollie

Mala which part do you agree with exactly? TD being potential scum?

Faster than Light being scum.

I have seen town-AJ once and I'm not really seeing it, but I will need to take a closer look. So they were impatient and started w/o me on League. (fuck you andy </3)

... Can we not defend me? Let me defend for myself, thank you.

Mollie

can you get jiffy to back off of me please?

yeah I know Jiffy has been posting more. and yeah I am getting more of a towny feel now for B n B.

Still would like to hear more from Syr as well as fery though.


Someone said that a lurky Nacho is always a scum Nacho and I disagree I have seem him be a lurky loo when he was town as well as when he was scum, and I have seen him as both town and scum being fairly active. With him just depends on whats going on. So yeah you need a bit more than oh hes lurking he must be scum Nacho. Especially since when you look at his posting history he has not been posting much of anywhere. I know he had to borrow his GFs computer a while back, so maybe he still is having to borrow it not sure on that.

if you knew majiffy was doing most ofthe posting up until that point then why did you say you wanted to hear from him. and syrlacious isn't in a hydra with fery and fery has been doing most of the posting in her hydra. mebbe if you would stop posting in your scum qt you would know this.

Achievement Unlocked:

First Slip

Andrius is Town. Why? Because he's managed to sum up my exact thinking on NS's role claim in thread, right down to the point that I can no longer vote him because he is not scum. Literally would lynch NS if it wasn't so blantly against my wincon. He's managed to find almost all my scumtell buttons.

Mala concerns me because she wants to lynch Nachopappa for one post, and Nachopappa's being replaced.

This isn't throwing the baby out with the bath water; this is putting the baby in the bathtub, loading into a bathtub launcher and launching it to the moon. It's nonsensical the logic here; there's not any body of work to really grade on here. Also, Mala's work is mostly fluff besides that bit of gleaning.

Unvote. Vote: Mala

Rachmarie's not a bad choice because she's reading as not sane as she was last game, and she was scum that game.

So my next word needs super big letters.

MISREP

You fucken misrepped me to world's end, then to hell and then back.

I never said I wanted to lynch him. Do not put words in my mouth. I said I was scum reading him because that didn't look like town-Bert as he was well not around and when he's town he will post mountains and be more involved and he wasn't. So yes, for his one post I did scum read him, but I never said once I was going to "lynch" him. I think if I wanted a lynch on him I would have voted him.. Wouldn't I?

Because generally when I have a scum read, I want them dead. Now, mods for some silly reason don't give me the power to vote all my scum reads at once, most games.

Good for you, but my head doesn't play like yours. If I have a read on a player I post it. If I scum read someone it's because they triggered gut or they are doing something I'm not used to seeing in their play so I call it out. Does not mean I want them dead.

Please do not put your own personal-how-I-play-meta onto me. We all play differently and not the same. We are not created equal.

You accused me of a misrep, remember? If it's because we don't fucking play the same, don't come after me.

That's the thing.. You

did

misrep me. Whether or not it was intentional or accidental you did misrep me. Now you want me to back off? Hell fucking no.

Honestly, your reaction to the original post, even on a base scum level, was extreme. There was hardly nothing to scumtell.

That said, no, I don't play this game the same fucking way you do, and the hyper defensive shitty way you've decided to defend yourself doesn't read Town to me. You could of gone, 'what do you mean by this', or even harsher 'what the fuck are you talking about'. Instead you accuse me of maliciously misrepping you.

Because you did.

Anyone else saw the post I called him out as a misrep? Or is it just me?

Also Andy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR6iYWJxHqs

<3!

Because generally when I have a scum read, I want them dead. Now, mods for some silly reason don't give me the power to vote all my scum reads at once, most games.

Good for you, but my head doesn't play like yours. If I have a read on a player I post it. If I scum read someone it's because they triggered gut or they are doing something I'm not used to seeing in their play so I call it out. Does not mean I want them dead.

Please do not put your own personal-how-I-play-meta onto me. We all play differently and not the same. We are not created equal.

You accused me of a misrep, remember? If it's because we don't fucking play the same, don't come after me.

That's the thing.. You

did

misrep me. Whether or not it was intentional or accidental you did misrep me. Now you want me to back off? Hell fucking no.

also mala I'm struggling to understand your thought process here because here's how you entered this game wrt to mollie:

- haven't seen townmollie in the 15 pages I read before replacing in, vote mollie
- retract vote next post, town mollie on page 13

what happened there?

I was really skim following in the beginning as I was watching a certain player play.

Well I retracted the vote for a really damn good reason. FTL scum slipped so I voted him.

@mala

why did you moan about people voting you despite not having finished your catchup, and then vote before you'd finished your catchup?

They were treating me unfairly. I was being given a read off my ISO before I had time to fully catch up. I don't like that.

hi mala

are you the cat who hydra'd with mara in HxH mafia?


i am the sonic who masoned with gif and bork(our mod) over here

nice to meet you

Yes.

You aren't playing the same.

You scum slipped.

You are scum, tyvm.

Nice to meet you though.

You guys should lynch Ftl he's scum. Ill even sing a song for you to gather votes on him.

Also AJ -

The newbie game play and this play here currently is not even remotely the same. I don't see how you can say it is. I also do not like you pushing that outlet because it reminds me of scum-UN doing the same thing to me at LyLo.

I'm just coming off off a 1:4 town:scum game ratio roll and I can say my town play took a beating in the course of that. Mollie scum read me a whole game when I was town during that.

Ps Mollie you are decent at reading me. You tend to read me well late on rather than early on if that makes any sense. Js

Mastin, that's postmodern as fuck, but I'll bring you further than that:
The 'true face' was a mask, too.
One mirrors the other such in the way that one and one make three.

@Mala: Squirm more, scum. You're looking for the easiest target now that you've got some force behind your wagon? Step it up, senpai.

-V

Still not scum. I don't like to be held so yeah I'm squirming. After all I'm a cat :p

Also you are calling you self easy? What makes you an easy target? You're not easy, you're scum.

You guys should lynch Ftl he's scum. Ill even sing a song for you to gather votes on him.

Also AJ -

The newbie game play and this play here currently is not even remotely the same. I don't see how you can say it is. I also do not like you pushing that outlet because it reminds me of scum-UN doing the same thing to me at LyLo.

I'm just coming off off a 1:4 town:scum game ratio roll and I can say my town play took a beating in the course of that. Mollie scum read me a whole game when I was town during that.

Ps Mollie you are decent at reading me. You tend to read me well late on rather than early on if that makes any sense. Js

So what you're telling me is when you are all over the place, and when you decide not to include well-founded reason, that's scum. But when you go AtE and start posting like you have (Look at my iso, I have the case there for you), that's town? No. You were REPLICATING your town game in the newbie game. This is downright your scum play. Appealing to Mollie, who misread you in that game, isn't smart since I'm the one who found your slip. You've already proven your own scum tell on FTL to work with you, and you're trying to get Mollie to defend you.

I LIKE the nick wagon, he's all over the place, but I'm 99% sure Mala is scum again.

My beginning reads were gut. You never used gut before? If you say you haw never have I'm going to call you a liar. Currently I do have well reasons for my town reads, but also for my scum reads. I'm not even Ate'ing. I'm not appealing to her and sorry to break it to you I'm giving her cristism and I did it to her after our micro game where she scum read me for god knows what. I don't need anyone to defend me and I sure as hell don't want her to do it.

I never once did the scum tell that FTL has done. He's scum a million times over, but the fact you aren't considering it scares me. THE FACT NO ONE PICKED UP ON HIS POSTS BOTHERS ME (hint:Fery)

FTL is very much in my scum pile, mala. I defer a little to GiF on reading Varsoon, but GiF also reads him as scum.

See I wanted you to bring it down on paper. You only mentioned his name twice. Gif saying he's got a weird vibe and the other was you agreeing with 'Jiffy. The fact is I still don't know why you're scum reading him other than GiF side. I know you normally call out people for scum-tells, but this game you haven't. Which amazes me to no end.

If FTL is for sure scum then Mastin is probably a partner.

Spoiler:

I'm not liking Muffin

Why? Why did you basically explain every other read and not this one?

Holy fucking scum-tell Batman.

Someone REALLY cares about how they look right now.

Talk about your vote on FTL a bit, please. I don't see the "scum-tell" there or anything particularly scummy in that post.

Can you give me links on Mastin's accuracy to read you?

I cbf getting the links for the games, but there's Brightest Day (Large Theme), Large Normal 137, Large Normal 146 (where he was the only active member of Palisade, I'm just remembering this read off the top of my head because the records of it have been deleted but mastin may be able to verify this if he remembers the game), Large Normal 143 (although he was scum in a multiball game here, so this doesnt't count for much), Mortal Kombat (Large Theme) (he had me as a town read for most of it and never thought I was particularly scummy outside his mastin-esque VCA). There may be other games that I'm forgetting or were deleted back around the end of 2011.

Looking back, I realised I don't recall ever playing scum in a game with mastin, unless it was on an alt I don't know about.

That's actually just normal for Rach in any alignment. She tends to do that =\

If it was as simple as not having done anything so far, then perhaps I'd be inclined to believe it's not alignment indicative. It has more to do with the stuff she's actually done in place of scum hunting that bothers me. I elaborated on this a bit in the spoiler below (in my reply to mastin) if you're actually interested in my thoughts about this.

Muffin it was mostly gut feel that I didn't like from your early posts. I know I didn't like the wording on your vote on Pappa at first even though it was RVS stage. That was the thing that pinged it the most.

Okay from my experience town shouldn't need to care how they look, but scum do need to care. If they do something wrong they get a wagon on them. There's more town than there is scum so town has the freedom to do scummy things here and there whereas scum do not because even being on member down it hurts their team.

The part of what I linked that made V look really uncomfortable in his post was this:

Just wanted to give people a heads-up, because at the current game pace, it could easily look like I ditched out or am lurking or whatnot and I might miss questions directed at me when I am catching up.

It's like he's trying to not look scummy and is avoiding in the future being called out for lurking. As if he doesn't want the unwarranted pressure. It's as if he's hiding something while trying to appease people. You might not see it as a scum tell, but I do. He cares about his appearance.

I'll take a look later on if I can.

Again - it's a null tell for her Muffin. I have seen both alignments-Rach do it. I have also called her out on it previous times in other games. There has been only one game where I was able to directly differentiate between the two, but I was Nightkilled by her and the town wasn't listening to me when I wanted to lynch her. (Well Slimer listened to me, but I couldn't get the other confirmed town to do so)

^ this.

He got a scum role PM along with FTL.

MS isn't playing the same way he has played in HxH and also V has slipped a few times. He cares about his appearance which is a major scum tell, but you are too busy attacking me to see it.

^ Directed to AJ.

Even I would have never said "HEY GUISE MY PARTNER IS ACTING LIKE SCUM".

No, you'd just claim alien instead~

Shut up.

Even I would have never said "HEY GUISE MY PARTNER IS ACTING LIKE SCUM".

No, you'd just claim alien instead~

Shut up.

In good taste, I jest, mala. This is gonna be your version of mara's hard boiled, I get it. Anyways, you should vote mastin with me.

No really keep quiet about it. You can jest all you want, but I don't want to be joked about it because I'm

still

pissed at you for something. I think I have a right to be pissed in regards to it. People can use that game against me if they want - I don't care. Once this game ends - I'll let you know what I'm talking about, kay? by then I'll be not pissed at you enough to bring it up.

No, I want FTL dead currently.

Temptation to claim is high, but I was banned

for it before, so I dunno.
Probably not a safe move to make anymore. :/

-V

This is a flat out lie. You were banned for making a trust tell. You were modkilled in a previous open game for posting in scum QT at night after you were lynched.

Unless ofc I'm missing something here you weren't banned for claiming.

If I am mistaken please do link the game and give me the post number.

(If some ungodly reason it's still ongoing don't then and wait until it finishes)

You keep perpetuating this idea that I 'slipped', and your case is founded on that. I'm not going to engage further. You're pushing my lynch hard for anti-town reasons.

Sorry if I was insulting earlier. Consider how insulted I felt when I read your post.

-V

[Faster Than Light]

My spoiler didn't work.

Bork, can you fix my spoiler?

-V

[Desperado]

neither of them have done anything even a little bit scummy which is extraordinarily surprising, considering the hydra.

That's a huge stretch Nacho.

it sounds like it, right?
but these two are town take that to the bank and cash it in for a fine townie check.

Walk me through Rachtown please

[notscience]

Mala

I will cry if you replace out

I'm not as great at in-depth, why don't you ask me what you want explained exactly?

[Sound of Silence]

especially because GiF always buddies me regardless of his alignment.

So what does this tell you?

[Malakittens]

That's hilarious. You have a problem with almost every single one of my posts. I'm just an aggressive player or you just need thicker skin.

I'm not full on engage tunnel AJ. I'm actually looking elsewhere, but yeah I want my largest scum read dead.

[Andrius]

Dear Nacho, Venmar, Desperado, Ghostlin, thezmon,

How much do you want notscience dead this very minute? (On a sliding scale of ANDY STAHP to )

-Andy

[Andrius]

The only person whose buddying of me I'm actually looking twice at is thezmon but its not a big concern for now. If at all.

Something started raising in me when you showed up.

jiffy stahp

So it seems.

I sense you don't fully agree.

Want to know why? I don't see town-Mollie at all in the 15 pages I read before replacing in. She's more "out spoken, aggressive and hunting for reads" and so far she isn't.

I'm leaning towards agreement at this point.

Mala it is totally town mollie.

Explain your read please.

Firstly, this is the closest I could find to a reason why you think he’s scum. And this is mollie, not Majiffy.

Secondly, he’s being hammered by y’all because of aggravation at you… wait for it… because you’re spamming about Breaking Bad and the fact that you guys are posting a lot.

This is a good defense in #754 and is genuine. However, if nhamm's slot flips scum remind me to relook at thezmon.

BRO's #758 on mastin is beautiful.

ZMuffin.. That's actually just normal for Rach in any alignment. She tends to do that =/

If either flips scum remind me this exists.

ftr the kerfuffle between fery and I has to do with out of game stuff, so no one should read anybody's alignment into that situ.

Yeah um yeah.
Don't like this at all.

mastin I am loving where your head is at cos you are saying what I am thinking.

mollie stahp

andy is most defo scum and I think you all need to reconsider your read on desp cos him putting andy as strong town for that wall and saying it was effort and content when it deserves the fluff post of the year award looks scummy as hell and I almost want to call them buddies.

mollie pls

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

no

nacho reads me as town
nacho is 100% correct in reading me
therefore I am town

but seriously
you call the entire wall fluff.
I'll play ball with you.

BUT IMMA FINISH FIRST

So they were impatient and started w/o me on League. (fuck you andy </3)

BUT DARLIN I WOULD CATCH A GRENAAAAADE FOR YA
THROW MY HAND ON A BLADE FOR YA
JUMP IN FRONT OF A TRAAAAAIN FOR YA
YOU KNOW ID DO ANYTHING FOR YA
AND YOU KNOW YOUD DO THE SAME
<3?

Andrius, let's talk when you have a chance.

Yes?

Oh Andrius is town btw.

Also getting to the point where I am just not reading any of the BnB posts.

No stop you need to read them so if/when we need to lynch them you are already supplied with the reading material and thus won't have to waste time reading it later!

mollie can you talk about some specific parts of andrius' post that you didn't like? I'm not seeing the fluff.

There was definitely a lot of fluff in his posts.

Andrius bitching at NS is not a scumtell

bitching =/= raging

I'm going to do some meta on nhamm because I like him and wanted him to be town but I might have my reads backwards. It HAS been awhile.

If you think Andrius is town, then why are you making a big deal out of him supposedly making fluff posts?

Reason #3 why hydras are a bad idea.

... Can we not defend me? Let me defend for myself, thank you.

BUT DARLING I WOULD CATCH A GRENADE FOR YA

Not sure I like skullduggery's entry but I'll wait for more.
Seemed more like attacking weak targets, etc. What I do as scum when I'm in a game where I'm just outclassed.
That, play dumb, and lurk.

Seriously desperado is town.

WTF

Right now I don't have a scumread. Everyone walked away from the miller claim looking null or town.

...goddammit
I saw this.
And I let it slip by me.
God damn it.

Literally would lynch NS if it wasn't so blantly against my wincon. He's managed to find almost all my scumtell buttons.

This man sums up my feelings quite well.
And if you expect me to be nice or read his posts from here on out you've got another thing coming.

Nacholove <3

I didn't want to talk to you as I was RAEG and not LOVE when I caught up so.
Anywho, you're town I'm town tons of other great guys are town we can totally own this together.
And I won't be lurking today so we get tons of time together!

What do you think of the mollie/ffery slots? I was looking at then and I just found their interactions odd and I know mollie suspected me last game but calling my wall fluff is just baaaad.

VOTE: nacho

the fuck is this

Also Andy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR6iYWJxHqs

<3!

<3

ya varsoon is so scum

VOTE: varsoon

o wait i am varsoon

UNVOTE: varsoon

lets vote rach since i scumread her and varsoon unvoted td

VOTE: rach

the only thing you needed to say was VOTE RACH

Andrius- His scumread on me feels forced, but his read of the game feels towny. Dunno, really.

Ok so let's play the PRETEND GAME.
Pretend I read you as town.
Now what are your thoughts on me?

Maybe scum: TD, andrius

Uh, care to explain? I didn't see my name in your post except here so I'm a bit confused.

if nicky flips scum then andy is most assuredly is his partner. scum always always always put at least 1 partner dead in the middle and hey! I was scum reading andy anyways so

I'd laugh but I've already done that enough.

*ahem*

This is pathetically weak.
And since you scumread me already (LOL) I'm assuming this was either some horrible confirmation bias or you're just scum.

Anyone else agree here?

how can you be so sure. every game I have been in with innocent child the scum make an effort to kill the innocent child (or in the case of Less Pressure--Innocent children).


I have not given a large list of reads yet because oh duh 36 friggen pages with some peeps not yet talking or not talking much....

On top of that had some modly things to do.

And yeah my knee still hurts.

BTW I will get on this game a lot more after I rest my knee and we take Lucky to the vet today. He has been throwing up a lot and I am worried about him.

yes Z dude is the zmon one I call the other one muffin to keep them straight. Also call notscience Notty so it does not get confused with NS who is my fiance.

Var you and MS really need to get it together more its making extremely difficult to figure out your slot.

more later dudes and dudettes

please guys
can we just lynch her

Oh God... now the issue with Notscience and Rach living together...

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

@895Be careful mollie, if you keep grasping at straws that hard, you'll break them, and then you won't be able to keep drinking whatever hard liquor you were drinking when you made that post. Can yall like talk about reads before the end of day one? Is there some reason why have to wait for the first night to talk?

I think we can get along just fine.

andy - scum, strong meta reasons.

Fucking lay it on me.
DO IT.
Because its one thing to call SCUM and one thing to be like REASONS.
So fucking drop something on me or walk the fuck away.

because I didn't like his pre-wall posts at all.

I had pre-wall posts?

The wall itself (while being humorous) also was incredibly scummy to me, solidifying the read, but not being a basis of the read.

How?

The megawall opens up with a vote on nick; this is a classic scumbuddy-RVS move of voting-scumbuddy-for-the-heck-of-it and I KNOW that Andrius comes from a time period where scum do that.

Said RVS-vote is for a bad reason, too; not knowing the player seems really forced.

This is reaching.

Then there's the faked reaction to notscience's reveal;

...

The Grand List of Achievements

1. Aj The Epic

2. Andrius

Late to the party:

Be the last person to make the first post

The Wall of Death:

Make a wall. A HUGE wall.

giffy:

Use an image file.

3. BeautyAndTheBeast (pirate mollie + Majiffy)

First Slip:

Post outside of the hydra

4. BROseidon

5. Desperado

6. Faster Than Light (Varsoon + Metal Sonic)

First Slip:

Post outside of the hydra.

7. Ghostlin

8. Mac

9. mastin2

10. Nachomamma8

11. Nachopappa/zman

12. nhammen/Malakittens

13. nickthename

14. notscience

I'm town, sup bro?:

Get alignment confirmed by mod

15. RachMarie

16. Skullduggery

17. Sound of Silence (fferyllt + GuyInFreezer)

Great Idea:

Be the first to think of the achievements.

First Slip:

Post outside of the hydra

Slipping from Slip:

Slip as an another alt account.

18. TiphaineDeath

19. Trust Fund (Cabd + Syryana)

giffy:

Use an image file.

20. Venmar

Ice Breaker:

Be the first to claim.

21. zMuffinMan

Mastin's ":P" count:

26

who wrote this
and why the fuck was this necessary

Andrius - GIF leaning null. That's because he's refusing to read that wall.

Read the goddamn wall you tosspot.

oh my god seriously
if i have to put up with mastin doing for the rest of the game i think im going find a way to die veeeeery quicklu

On Andy, I'm actually close to putting him at null. I can see him as scum, and he's far more likely scum in the super-sekrit scenario, but I can't tell for sure.

cute
not

VOTE: RACHMARIE

redemption. sweet, sweet redemption.

its official
this is happening

CALLING THE BROTHERHOOD

Not townreading Nacho atm.

the fuck are you smoking

How is Andy town?

gut.

I'll have to trust you before I trust your gut. It's a multistep process, and it's probably faster to just do what I can to sort Andy for myself. When he posts again.

how much do you trust nacho

on a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being no 10 being yes

[Andrius]

TOWN
muffin
venmar
nachomamma
AJ
Ghostlin
BRO
nhamm?
mala
mac (iirc)
thezmon
Desperado


MAYBESCUM
FTL
nickthename

SCUM
SoundofSilence
Sashahydra
RACHMARIE
mastin?
B2B

[Andrius]

EDITS:
mastin should not have a question mark by his name
nhamm should be moved to the NEEDS RESEARCH category

[Andrius]

*skullduggery is in the MAYBESCUM

[Sound of Silence]

Andy

[notscience]

I'm just going to bash andrius in all my posts from now on because he isn't reading them

in other news, his scumreads suck

And he's buddying like mad