Xenogears Mafia (Game Over)

[Malakittens]

>_> I'm Nhamm's replacement Andy.

[Sound of Silence]

his scumreads suck

I wholeheartedly agree with this.

[Sound of Silence]

TOWN
muffin
venmar
nachomamma
AJ
Ghostlin
BRO
nhamm?
mala
mac (iirc)
thezmon
Desperado

nhamm is mala.

Maybe you are better at reading Nacho than I am so I will give you that one.

BRO?

mala?

MAYBESCUM
FTL
nickthename

These are pretty safe and noncontroversial. I'd respect you more if you put them in one pile or the other.

SCUM
SoundofSilence
Sashahydra
RACHMARIE
mastin?
B2B

These are mostly terrible.

[Sound of Silence]

O hai GiF!

[Malakittens]

I agree with the Mastin scum read. I'm null on Rach and the rest I'm in disagreement, Even though I'm null-leaning town on SoS. I was townreading TF and this hasn't gone away because there was no reason for scum-TF to say my "reaching out tell in regards to Fery" is a null tell>

computer do not do this right now> let me enter the damn post< ty

[Sound of Silence]

Not townreading Nacho atm.

the fuck are you smoking

If he's town, I will eventually get there. I am not insta-townreading him this game. In fact, I haven't been able to insta-read him in a few recent games, as Nacho is well aware.

How is Andy town?

gut.

I'll have to trust you before I trust your gut. It's a multistep process, and it's probably faster to just do what I can to sort Andy for myself. When he posts again.

how much do you trust nacho

on a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being no 10 being yes[/quote]

When I think he's town, I sometimes weigh his reads more heavily than my own, but it's contextual and it's player dependent. If he's town in this game, I'll probably weigh his opinion of you over my own due to the huge difference in experiential meta.

Right now, my trust level is not high and it's in part because we are disagreeing on a couple of players that I would expect to agree with town-Nacho about.

[Sound of Silence]

Andy, GiF's Achievement list was for his own amusement and he didn't intend to post it (at least not at that point in the game). He had it in drafts and accidentally posted it instead of our reads list. He noted that at the top of the next post (the reads list he actually intended to post originally).

[Andrius]

nhamm is mala.

copypasta'd the list and made edits
clearly there were clerical errors
also you know who i was talking about so win:win

Maybe you are better at reading Nacho than I am so I will give you that one.

damn straight

BRO?

read my posts

mala?

probscum at this point
can definitely see people's case on her and id vote her because WOTC
will do my own metaread into nhamm just to appease myself
i want mala to be town
because she sang grenade for me
but
nacho hold me all the women are scum

These are pretty safe and noncontroversial. I'd respect you more if you put them in one pile or the other.

uh
they ARE in a category
they're in MAYBESCUM
aka
not town
not entirely sold as scum
but
scum
so
how is that not claer for you

if you want
ill rename the fucking category LEANINGSCUM if that will appease you
will that fucking work for you?

These are mostly terrible.

and i give zero fucks as to what you think at this point

now stop talking so i can post another wall


FUCKING PREDITS

[Andrius]

Andy, GiF's Achievement list was for his own amusement and he didn't intend to post it (at least not at that point in the game). He had it in drafts and accidentally posted it instead of our reads list. He noted that at the top of the next post (the reads list he actually intended to post originally).

tell gif to stop wasting my fucking time

[Andrius]

If he's town, I will eventually get there. I am not insta-townreading him this game. In fact, I haven't been able to insta-read him in a few recent games, as Nacho is well aware.

he's town
move along

When I think he's town, I sometimes weigh his reads more heavily than my own, but it's contextual and it's player dependent. If he's town in this game, I'll probably weigh his opinion of you over my own due to the huge difference in experiential meta.

Right now, my trust level is not high and it's in part because we are disagreeing on a couple of players that I would expect to agree with town-Nacho about

this is not a number 1-10
insert another quarter
and try again

[Andrius]

but seriously
you call the entire wall fluff.
I'll play ball with you.

BUT IMMA FINISH FIRST

I shall quote the portions that I think could be contrived as "fluff" and either debunk them or agree with you.

Because I am not lazy and do not call posts fluff and move on with my life like a trashy scumbag.

All quotes are mine unless I say otherwise.

First game with Mastin and Desperado!

Can be contrived as fluff.

NHAMM WHY DID YOU LEAVE? ;_;

Legitimate rhetorical question since he obviously can't answer.

;_;

Not fluff, actual feelings.

VOTE: ftl for the sake of sanity.

FOR

THE GIRLS

MOLLIE

Not fluff. Telling TD I shall be watching him.
Also homage to the late CDB.

I'll follow you to the ends of the Xenogears for last game. <3

Not fluff. Explaining why I asked the question.

Vote: Nachomamma8

Pappa and Mamma are reunited <3

HANDS OFF

Likely contrived as fluff. Its not.
Ignoring Nachomamma is a scumtell.

RachMarie I want three things from you.
TOWNLIST
SCUMLIST
PEOPLEYOUWANTDEADRIGHTAWAYLIST

Not fluff. Legitimate prodding for content (which she has not produced)!

It's like a hard-on, but with hate instead of penis's.

The plural is penii.

Fluff.

At least I shall die as I have lived, completely surrounded by the completely clueless.

Rhaegar fought valiantly, Rhaegar fought nobly, Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaegar died.

Likely contrived as fluff.
Attempting to console a fellow player who I like.

WHY
THE
FUCK
WOULD
YOU
ACTUALLY FUCKING DO THIS THIS FUCKING EARLY INTO THE GAME

THE FUCK

Not fluff.
Game content. Responding to game events!

No but you just fucking claimed you're a trash player.
WHY
WHY
WHY
WHY
WHY
WHY
WHY
WHY
WHY
WHY
WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU DO THAT THIS EARLY FOR NO GOOD REASON
WHY



















WHY

Same as above.

nickthename is also another background player wooo
likely scum? perhaps

Not fluff. Comments on a player. Giving a read.

@Notscience: Now that you're confirmed town, you need to play the game. I was in Open 512 with Pasche, who was Innocent Child and he gave up playing after his IC reveal. Now you don't have to convince us that you're town, so please actually contribute to the thread and catch scum. What's the worst that can happen, they waste an NK on you?

Varsoon I am so proud of you.

Proud of a player who, last time I saw him, didn't do much. Praising town players is not fluff.

mastin is this how you post as town
because i am already feeling let down

Not fluff, commentary on a player who has a GREAT reputation on-site

ffery is still not being useful.

Commenting on someone's play is not fluff.

Not fluff. A (humorous) attempt to make an idiot realize that this game is not to be trifled with and/or THROWN because he's "bored".

useless slot is useless

Commentary on a player is not fluff.

man this is going to be a heavy game

Commentary on gamestate and player slots is not fluff.

no stahp
its nhamm

Defense of a fellow player is not fluff.
Though it may be inaccurate meta.

mollie this should have been us.

Fluff.

fixed

Could be contrived as fluff.
Asshole commentary on a player.

I think we can be friends, for the most part.

Not fluff.

Not fluff. Announcing my prescence to the people.

YESSSSSSS

Expressing joy over a replacement is now fluff?
Sorry no.

CONGRATS MAN
I wish I were better at the game. lol

Fluff. But seriously getting to plat's a big achievement.

Definitely contrived as fluff.
Probably is as if I were to make a case it'd be a stretch.

Just wait and see.

Breadcrumb? WHO KNOWSES

tl;dr

TOWN
muffin
venmar
nachomamma
AJ
Ghostlin
BRO
nhamm?
mala
mac (iirc)
thezmon


WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU?
desperado
skullduggery


MAYBESCUM
FTL
B2B?

SCUM
SoundofSilence
Sashahydra
RACHMARIE
RACHMARIE
nickthename
mastin?

My reads.
Not fluff.

[Andrius]

FLUFF
penii comment
mollie + andy hydra name comment
legolas gif

MAYBEFLUFF
first game with X and Y comment


congratulations
my post is largely NOT FLUFF

try reading the game again
all the words in all the posts
and get back to me

[Sound of Silence]

Andy, GiF's Achievement list was for his own amusement and he didn't intend to post it (at least not at that point in the game). He had it in drafts and accidentally posted it instead of our reads list. He noted that at the top of the next post (the reads list he actually intended to post originally).

tell gif to stop wasting my fucking time

He's reading the thread.

I'd kinda like to figure out a way to interact productively with you if you're town. The derision doesn't do much for me.

[Andrius]

but seriously
you call the entire wall fluff.
I'll play ball with you.

BUT IMMA FINISH FIRST

this quote should have been attributed to me

[Andrius]

Andy, GiF's Achievement list was for his own amusement and he didn't intend to post it (at least not at that point in the game). He had it in drafts and accidentally posted it instead of our reads list. He noted that at the top of the next post (the reads list he actually intended to post originally).

tell gif to stop wasting my fucking time

He's reading the thread.

I'd kinda like to figure out a way to interact productively with you if you're town. The derision doesn't do much for me.

im on RAGEAHOL at the moment so let me calm down
and we can chat later


something about this game just brings it up

[Sound of Silence]

If he's town, I will eventually get there. I am not insta-townreading him this game. In fact, I haven't been able to insta-read him in a few recent games, as Nacho is well aware.

he's town
move along

When I think he's town, I sometimes weigh his reads more heavily than my own, but it's contextual and it's player dependent. If he's town in this game, I'll probably weigh his opinion of you over my own due to the huge difference in experiential meta.

Right now, my trust level is not high and it's in part because we are disagreeing on a couple of players that I would expect to agree with town-Nacho about

this is not a number 1-10
insert another quarter
and try again

No it's not a number. It's something more meaningful. It's my thought process.

p-edit. Ok.

[Malakittens]

mala?

probscum at this point
can definitely see people's case on her and id vote her because WOTC
will do my own metaread into nhamm just to appease myself
i want mala to be town
because she sang grenade for me
but
nacho hold me all the women are scum

... If you think I'm probs-scum why did you put me in your town read lists?..

[Andrius]

I have no clue

[Andrius]

lol you and nhamm are the same slot
and I listed you both

reading skills op pls buff Andrius riot

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

VOTE: RACHMARIE

redemption. sweet, sweet redemption.

you are scum aren't you

[Andrius]

VOTE: RACHMARIE

redemption. sweet, sweet redemption.

you are scum aren't you

you're a bright one

[thezmon221]

Hey Thezmon (or Nacho, since you're here), please tell me you're seeing Mala as scum. It almost feels like a bus at this point, she's so tunnel-centric on FTL. I'd go so far as call it basic scum tactic 101, man. We see this all the time, so if you want to help me lynch this, that'd be great.

It's progressing. But my read on her is one of my most unstable. I have very, very little to go on in the form of the read, and after my wk'ing spout I gotta take a step back and reevaluate.

I like some of her reads, though.

How much do you want notscience dead this very minute?

I'm pretty content with him being in the game. He's not detailed, but he's conftown and DOES do stuff for the town and is definitely trying to help. It took a bit of effort to get him there, but I noticed it when I was talking with him about his reaction fish.

VOTE: RACHMARIE

redemption. sweet, sweet redemption.

you are scum aren't you

Wouldn't doubt it. But.. Rach is scum, so it's win:win in this case.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

Spoiler: Mollie's nick case

Town-leaning

:

Malakittens

- I've already talked about this, but her entering the thread looks towny.

zMuffin

- Feels authentic, although I'm still waiting on his new reads.

thezmon

- Arguing against him feels like arguing with a thoughtful townie, although I disagree with some of his reads

BROseiden

- I like his notes regarding ghostlin, a player most people seem to have overlooked. His liar tell thing seems dumb, but it also seems town.

I love lists.

remind me again why mala's entrance was town? I thought it was very bad and was starting to scum read her for it but she is looking better and majiffy getting under skin feels like it is coming more from frustrated townie than a scummy act.

so muffin looks authentic and that is why you have him as town? can you expand on that?

thez read is decent

bro read looks vaguely like grooming an unconfident townie.

Null

:

Rach

- She's right up there with zMuffin as far as time since we last heard from her, and her play before didn't really give me much of an opinion on her.

Skull

- Nothing to see here

Nacho

- Not contributing much, but nacho never contributes much. Until something serious that he is forced to react to, I doubt I'll get much of a read here.

Andrius

- His scumread on me feels forced, but his read of the game feels towny. Dunno, really.

Ghostlin

-Yet to see very much from him. His vote on Mala is dumb, but it doesn't really pop out is scum to me. I'd like some reads from him.

TD

- His emotions seem legitimate, but I'm not sure I'm a fan of how quiet he's been lately.

Venmar

- Who knows? Not me.

Those other 2 hydras

- Too hard to read for anything real D1, methinks.
Everyone else I forgot.

if nicky flips scum then andy is most assuredly is his partner. scum always always always put at least 1 partner dead in the middle and hey! I was scum reading andy anyways so

the nacho never contributes much is a bunch of crap and untrue and there should more peeps than just me who will point this out.

nothing to say about venny's claim or play? lol hedge.

Scum-leaning:-

B&B

- The harass of Mala doesn't look towny. That said, the hydra dissonance is strong with this one, and i'm having a hard time even figuring out what they believe. Also, sign your posts, seriously, it's not hard. Can yall like, talk to eachother and agree on reads or something?

FTL

- Have these 2 ever played in a hydra before? Seriously, you guys are harder to figure out then B&B, and not in a good way. MS is barely even legible, and all his question seem completely random and pointless. I see a tiny bit of scummieness poking through from Varsoon in posts like this:
VOTE: FTL
I don't get the feeling they are putting any effort at all into working together, making it hard to get a read. Hopefully they'll eventually feel enough preassure to do it, and then I can be more definitive in my read.

Mastin

- Is dumb and doesn't make much sense. His read on me also looks pretty forced, but since he doesn't really bother to back it up, it's hard to tell. It worries me that he doesn't really do any analysis on the TD wagon, which seems like something someone who considers themself to be as analytical as Mastin seems to think he is would do.

Mac

- Reasons are in my iso. Scum.

reads are bad bad bad, and if I had a go at it I would say that he is either bussing ftl (it is around that time) and that (sadly) mastin might be scum (again he puts a scummate in the middle). mastin is also a very good player and 1 of the biggest mistakes is that they will claim a skill beyond their level of experience and scumhunting mastin falls into that category (if mastin is indeed scum). while nicky is being incredibly elegant about it reads like a pile of weaksauce.

wrt the scumread on our slot, none of those are scumtells. majiffy pushes people for reactions that is just how he is. he goes overboard cos he does not always pick up on social cues of when he should stop. I already explained we give independent reads on d1 and then fight about them in the night round and their are players here who are familiar enough with us to know that. I have reigned him in a bit and I now have him on a tight leash which is pretty much what I had to do in xeno1. his d1 reads sucked during that game but he was really hitting it on d2, majiffy is the type of player who does much better with flips and info to work with.

I wanna see a nicky flip cos I am really feeling it that he is scum in this game and I think it will provide a whole lot of info. his case on mac looks like scum leaping all over an inconsistency when town can sometimes be inconsistent with their thoughts too. his vote on ftl looks like he is either bussing or being opportunistic.

VOTE: nicky

gonna type up a full list of my reads in a minute.

mollie, I feel like your nick case is more succinctly summed up as "I disagree with his reads" and not "he has done scummy things x, y, and z." I think my Rach case is better, and you also think she's scummy--can we do Rach today please? I think her flip will be just as informative as nick's would be, with the added bonus that she's actually been doing scummy things all game, while nick's content and engagement with the thread has him in my townpile.

it isn't just that I disagree with his reads it is his hyper-active aggressive push reminds more of his scum meta than his town. this is our first forum game together but we have played a good bit on skype. he is 1 of my favourite people to play with. his whole defense "your grasping at straws" and saying I was drinking liquor when I voted him is more of the arrogant scummy brush off than his usual thoughtful town play. having said that, his reaction to mastin was reactionary, instantaneous and genuine so I may change my mind about him.

not feeling the rach lynch, I am probably going to push for nacho/andy/mastin but may compromise.

[notscience]

pm what about nick

[borkjerfkin]

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