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Post Post #1175 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:45 am

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Votecount 1.8


[6] mastin2 (Venmar, Trust Fund, BROseidon, nickthename, TiphaineDeath, Skullduggery)
[5] RachMarie (zMuffinMan, Andrius, Desperado, Faster Than Light, Nachomamma8)
[3] nickthename (mastin2, notscience, thezmon221)
[2] Andrius (BeautyAndTheBeast, Sound of Silence)
[2] Malakittens (Ghostlin, Aj The Epic)
[1] Faster Than Light (Skullduggery)

[2] Not Voting (RachMarie, Mac)

With 21 alive, it is 11 to lynch.

Let me know if you see any problems.

Deadline is in (expired on 2013-08-26 08:30:00)
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Post Post #1176 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:46 am

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damn straight bork

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Post Post #1177 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:48 am

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In post 1158, Sound of Silence wrote:You could ISO us and ctl-f and probably find what you are looking for. But, a quick summary goes like this

BRO - leaning scum. He looks really uncomfortable wearing the scum-win mantle, which could be coming from a townish place. But, I'm not seeing the well defined observations and really spot-on quote-and-call-out posts that I associate with his play. Everything is kind of mushy and even inaccurate (e.g., the comment about GiF/me not posting much).

Mastin - Null. I see why people are reading him as scum, but I'm not there right now. He looks like town having a bad hair day, basically, and I can think of a couple recent games where I really struggled to get a handle on the game on day 1 (and beyond). That's what I feel like I'm seeing with Mastin.

BnB - Town. Mollie is totally town.
Majiffy's reads list looks town to me
, and I liked the way he broke up the TD flash wagon.

TF - I'm very cautious about the Cabd head of this hydra (the one who's been most active. I think there have been 2-3 Syr posts, though his reads list shows that he's following along and discussing the game with Cabd). Earlier, when Cabd was actively reaching out for data - reads and impressions - I thought that looked pretty town. Now that he's in the mode of herding votes onto his preferred wagon(s) I'm a little paranoid.

GiF thinks Mala's aggressive, even angry at times, play looks town. I'm not there, not yet anyway.
this isn't exactly what you were saying earlier. you were kind of dissing his reads. what changed?

also you have mastin as a light town read, why aren't you defending that more? and what is it about him that makes you want to say it is having a bad hair day?

andy why aren't you helping push the andy wagon?
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Post Post #1178 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:53 am

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are there any serious mastin votes?
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Post Post #1179 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:53 am

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1. That fery will answer.
2. Because I'm bugging her about her Mastin read!
3. Check where our vote is. Also this head needed to talk with Varsoon.
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Post Post #1180 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:55 am

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Speaking of the Mastin wagon, didn't realize how much of a following it had. Can someone articulate or point to a case on Mastin?

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Post Post #1181 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:56 am

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Apparently he scumslipped with that 5 scums in the game thingy.
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Post Post #1182 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:57 am

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There are none, I'm checking ISOs now. Thus #1178.
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Post Post #1183 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:02 am

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In post 1181, Sound of Silence wrote:Apparently he scumslipped with that 5 scums in the game thingy.
Doesn't sound like a slip. I didn't comment on it earlier because I wasn't really around and when I glossed it it felt like useless speculation. I think it's safe to assume a 3 town to 1 scum ratio in pretty much every game on this site.

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Post Post #1184 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:04 am

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In post 1137, zMuffinMan wrote:
thezmon et al wrote:By the way. 5 scum slipping. Mastin, are you sure you didn't receive a scum role PM?
Stuff like this is bad. mastin isn't
this
dumb. It's extremely likely he legitimately thought the host said there were 5 scum in this game - whether that actually happened is another case altogether, and I seriously doubt it has anything to do with his alignment, regardless of whether he's actually town or scum here.
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Post Post #1185 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:05 am

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Hmmm.
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Post Post #1186 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:07 am

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isnt like having 5 scums standard

i've always seen 5 scum in a one-team theme game

idk just my 2cents
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Post Post #1187 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:08 am

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Hence "Apparently"
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Post Post #1188 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:09 am

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i dont get you
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Post Post #1189 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:10 am

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That was to 1183
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Post Post #1190 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:11 am

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The issue is some people going, "derp, him saying the mod said there were 5 scum = him admitting he's scum." Though how the former implies the latter hasn't actually been explained by anyone because it's nonsense and a way for people to pretend they're doing something when they're not really doing anything at all.
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Post Post #1191 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:25 am

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obviously there are scum pushing this bullshit

who is the scum?
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Post Post #1192 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:32 am

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In post 1177, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 1158, Sound of Silence wrote:You could ISO us and ctl-f and probably find what you are looking for. But, a quick summary goes like this

BRO - leaning scum. He looks really uncomfortable wearing the scum-win mantle, which could be coming from a townish place. But, I'm not seeing the well defined observations and really spot-on quote-and-call-out posts that I associate with his play. Everything is kind of mushy and even inaccurate (e.g., the comment about GiF/me not posting much).

Mastin - Null. I see why people are reading him as scum, but I'm not there right now. He looks like town having a bad hair day, basically, and I can think of a couple recent games where I really struggled to get a handle on the game on day 1 (and beyond). That's what I feel like I'm seeing with Mastin.

BnB - Town. Mollie is totally town.
Majiffy's reads list looks town to me
, and I liked the way he broke up the TD flash wagon.

TF - I'm very cautious about the Cabd head of this hydra (the one who's been most active. I think there have been 2-3 Syr posts, though his reads list shows that he's following along and discussing the game with Cabd). Earlier, when Cabd was actively reaching out for data - reads and impressions - I thought that looked pretty town. Now that he's in the mode of herding votes onto his preferred wagon(s) I'm a little paranoid.

GiF thinks Mala's aggressive, even angry at times, play looks town. I'm not there, not yet anyway.
this isn't exactly what you were saying earlier. you were kind of dissing his reads. what changed?
I don't agree with all his reads. That shouldn't be too difficult to figure out. However, they do look like town-Majiffy reads to me.
also you have mastin as a light town read, why aren't you defending that more? and what is it about him that makes you want to say it is having a bad hair day?
I'm wondering if I'm right and I want to continue to refine that read. And, I want the read challenged so I can see more evidence and gather more data. He seems really disconnected from the game and kind of in a bubble of self-referentiality. It doesn't look like the sort of stance that a scum player would take. It doesn't look like the sort of stance that scum-Mastin took in the one game I've played with him where he was scum.
andy why aren't you helping push the andy wagon?
He said he'd talk to me. I'm not going to push hard on his wagon while that hasn't happened.

What are your thoughts about the Mastin wagon?
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Post Post #1193 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:37 am

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ftl wrote:obviously there are scum pushing this bullshit

who is the scum?
On the mastin wagon?

{Trust Fund, BROseidon, TiphaineDeath, Skullduggery}

I don't feel particularly good about any of these names, but I imagine only two of them are scum.
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Post Post #1194 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:41 am

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push may not necessarily mean vote


all voters are pushers

but not all pushers are voters
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Post Post #1195 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:00 am

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In post 1194, Faster Than Light wrote:push may not necessarily mean vote


all voters are pushers

but not all pushers are voters
<3 you, MS.

I'm going to likely include some wagon analysis in my iso. I'm working on it now, but I probably won't be done until tonight.


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Post Post #1196 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:05 am

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I am not a fan of the mastin wagon at all. he has been saying a lot of the things that I have been thinking the only thing that really and truly bugs me is his buttering up after everything he said in pikman.

I really don't see how can people read andy's posts as remotely townish when they look like they were dipped in a vat of steroids intended for a wwf infomercial I mean omg. what he is doing is the very definition of scum posturing. that isn't andy.

I will vote ftl to save mastin. his early posts gave me the heebee jeebees but varsoon has a tendency to do that. he can also aTe like a pro, he is a very good actor and no, I disagree, I don't think he deserves a win because of it. he is a null read that I am willing to lynch.

will lynch nicky too but my strongest strongest scum read is andy.
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Post Post #1197 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:08 am

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VOTE: Andy
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Post Post #1198 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:11 am

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I won't vote nick right now. I can guarantee that GiF won't vote FTL.

Mostly I want the Mastin wagon to just cool off and for people to do more scumhunting.
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Post Post #1199 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:13 am

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the mastin wagon is baaad and the people on it should feel bad
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