Mini 1481: ETL's Horrific Camping Trip (GAME OVER)

[Bert]

Its weird that you start suspecting me when I suspected you

Because I find your choices for JKing especially (and to a lesser extent for lynching today) (so far) pretty dubious.

That's why I'm getting paranoid now.

In a perfect Bert world, it would be Aqua or TNE first, then one gets JKed (assuming you're town, DP). It's not guaranteed you're town.

Sakura is OK because I can't read her like I've said many times, so she's a 50/50 although from glancing at her past scum games I *think* she is likely town. But I can't read her worth anything. There's nothing like being in the same game with someone, rather than glancing at past games.

The other people are town to me (Fuzzy, GIF, FSnake, Toxic/Guyett, etc.) SO FAR in this game

so it's down to those 3...or you.

I'm not afraid of being jailed tonight. Jail me, but it's frustrating that we were so close to a perfect win (before the NK), and this happened. And we're going to mislynch because I'm 90% sure Aqua or TNE is the last scum. And so I am frustrated with the direction we have partaken.

But PLEASE JAIL ME if it helps or floats your boat.

[GuyInFreezer]

It's just clearing you

[DoctorPepper]

Dubious JK choices? I jailed Scum Night 1 and prevented a kill.

Why not vote you? Because I suspect Sakura. Weren't you just trying to discredit me about not being able to cooperate on an L-1 wagon?

You are frustrated with me stating my opinion?

FYI, the win isnt perfect because people have died. Youre sure they are scum, I think you could be scum. Its so fucking weird that you kept agreeing with my choices before and now youre calling me out for having dubious choices

[DoctorPepper]

What do people think of Bert scum?

[Bert]

Honestly I'll pull a deal for lynching me now, jailing Aqua night 3 if it floats your boat.

[Bert]

It's called a change of mind, since our choices are changing so fast. Three lynch -1 wagons...

We didn't even get to see TNE react or claim

[Guyett]

FSnake - getting a nice town gut read
DoctorPepper - I'm happy with his claim for the time being. Getting a nice town gut read here... his play reads like town DP
Bert - null, like I said I didn't like the speed of that wagon
fuzzybutternut - Neighbor with TNE. Gut says town
Sakura Hana - my no.1 gut scum read. The wagon speed was nasty
Aquaman - gut says scum. Lots of lurking with little content in his posts. Could be newb town or newb scum. Claims to be a VT so a mislynch on him wouldn't be the end of the world... info could be gained from the wagon.
thenewearth - Neighbor with Fuzzy, could also be scum, TNE is one of my top 3 scum gut reads
GuyInFreezer - gut says town, claims to be vig but there is a chance he could be a scum vig... I doubt this likely.

[DoctorPepper]

Bert, you do realize that if I jail you and you're town, we have at least 3 clears tomorrow in the pool of (GiF, Bert, DP, FSnake)

[Bert]

Okay no more Bert sheeping today.

Vote: Aquaman

P-edit: Sakura hops onto wagons, that's nothing new. what about the speed? It's just like shooting Saki for spouting nonsense...which was bad bad bad

P-edit: GIF won't be clear. You won't be until you're dead. No one is actually clear

[Bert]

It's like "oh hi guys Im a fruit vendor and look no one's counter claiming me." I'm clear because I sent X some fruit

Hahahaha no

[DoctorPepper]

Nobody counter claimed Vig. Re you saying he is an SK? Because 3 Mafia and 1 SK is not balanced in a mini

[GuyInFreezer]

Nobody counter claimed Vig. Re you saying he is an SK? Because 3 Mafia and 1 SK is not balanced in a mini

Yes it is.
But I'm not SK

[Guyett]

Why remove that L-1 vote?
To paraphrase you

"We didn't even get to see Sakura react or claim"

This is looking like a bit like wishy washy play

[Guyett]

Why remove that L-1 vote?
To paraphrase you

"We didn't even get to see Sakura react or claim"

This is looking like a bit like wishy washy play

[DoctorPepper]

ANSWER ME: Why the fuck would I bus Timeater if 1 of our scum partners has died DAY 1 and NOBODY DIED night 1.

Answer? Nothing? #YOLO?

How is 4 scum in 13p balanced?

[Guyett]

argh double post

[Guyett]

ANSWER ME: Why the fuck would I bus Timeater if 1 of our scum partners has died DAY 1 and NOBODY DIED night 1.

Answer? Nothing? #YOLO?

How is 4 scum in 13p balanced?

Not the first time you've brought this point up but I feel I have to point out that that is all sorts of WIFOM

[DoctorPepper]

Yes its wifom, but why would scum try to do something that is barely advantageous to them?

[Guyett]

I played a game of mafia on another forum where I was part of a 5 man scum team and one us bussed all of the rest of us to look super town... it worked and the scum won.

[Guyett]

Not that I actually think you are scum.

[Bert]

I've seen scum bus every single partner and list all of them in reads and bus hard. So no.

You can ride several mislynches and win the game solo, DP.

[Bert]

What it does is get you looking pretty beautiful and puts you in good position to lead a couple of mislynches (especially with your counterclaim) - on to a win.

[Guyett]

Bert could you put some thoughts into a single post of who you think is scum because you seem to be jumping between a lot of different people over the last few pages

[Bert]

Bert could you put some thoughts into a single post of who you think is scum because you seem to be jumping between a lot of different people over the last few pages

SCUM FIRST TIER <Aquaman>

SCUM SECOND TIER <TNE>

CONFUSED/NULL/SLIGHTLY LEANING TOWN <Sakura, Guyett>

TOWN <Fuzzy, DoctorPepper, GIF, FSnake>

(I think Toxic was more townie than Guyett tbh...but then again my only experience with Guyett is him walking into a marathon game drunk as hell and as scum)

WILL VOTE FOR Aquaman OR TNE

CAN settle for Sakura or Guyett if there are no other options, and it looks like TNE/AQUAMAN options are exhausted and we are gonna let both of them go free today

SOOOOOOOOO...that is why I changed wagons

[Bert]

EBWOP: Just because I'm questioning DoctorPepper is just ME feeling HIM out and seeing how he reacts

Because there is that sneaking suspicion in the back of my mind

honestly this is a pretty uncomfortable situation for town - I never thought I'd say that - next time I'm in LYLO I'll remember how I'm a spoiled brat and how good 8 vs. 1 odds actually are versus say 2 vs. 3 lylo

LOL