Mini 1468: Legends of the Hidden Temple- Game Over!

[serrapaladin]

AP, would you please define in what way you're using the word "posturing". I'm getting the impression it's more a buzzword for you than anything else. Also, could you make sure you write both r's in serra (or else call me SP, or pala, or something).

I don't really like voting against my individual reads, but unless they're both town, this way round makes more sense.

VOTE: mollie

AP, if you're convinced Majiffy is town, why are you disregarding his read on mollie?

[Wisdom]

If any Sera is scum at all, it's Seraphic.
But I think they're both town.

[AngryPidgeon]

AP, if you're convinced Majiffy is town, why are you disregarding his read on mollie?

I dont sheep anybody just because. : S

[AngryPidgeon]

AP, would you please define in what way you're using the word "posturing". I'm getting the impression it's more a buzzword for you than anything else. Also, could you make sure you write both r's in serra (or else call me SP, or pala, or something).

Ya, thats a good idea. I noticed I dropped an R.

By posturing I mean that you are making statements about the game without having any emotional/logical reason for believing them.

[AngryPidgeon]

without having any emotional/logical reason for believing them.

For instance, you saying that Majiffy is being bussed if scum doesn't really make sense for me.

Do you just expect scum to be bussing all the time? Who is bussing mollie if she is scum?

[AngryPidgeon]

for

to me.

[serrapaladin]

Fair enough, that's not quite how I've heard it used, but fine.

If Majiffy is scum, I say that I think he's being bussed because in my experience if there's a wagon on scum that's lasting more than a few pages, there'll almost invariably be scum on that wagon. It's obviously just a heuristic, but it's served me well.

Similarly, I'd argue there'll have been at least 1 scum on the NS wagon, so something like mollie/venmar/sera just seems very unlikely.

[Majiffy]

Meh.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: mollie

I don't fucking even.

[Haschel Cedricson]

The pool of players eligible to be lynched today consists of:

Majiffy
pirate mollie

serrapaladin

Here are the current votes:

pirate mollie(3) - Majiffy, Wisdom, serrapaladin
serrapaladin(3) - qwints, AngryPidgeon, Venmar
Majiffy(2) - pirate mollie, SeraphicMirth

Not Voting (0) -

With 8 players alive, it will take 5 votes to lynch.

[AngryPidgeon]

Nobody Special (6) - Majiffy, SafetyDance, Wisdom,

Elyse, Grimgroove

, AngryPidgeon

Given that there are 4 unknowns for you on this wagon, and only 4/7 people in the game are town from your lens, I'd sure hope you thought scum was on the wagon >.>

[pirate mollie]

Yeah, but he claimed that he challenged so he could see mollie's reaction, which I'm inclined to believe

. I suppose that leaves the question of why he challenged my slot in particular to test mollie, but Grim was sort the next most obvious target. If town-Majiffy did want to go after mollie, I don't see why he would have challenged anyone different.

I don't not for 1 second.

fucking A, the timing of when he did this was bad bad bad and

he knew this

. he immediately places a vote on me to test "my reaction" but I don't get from what he has said that he was even interested in my reaction. jesus christ it is right there in there in the thread. scum has been controlling the lynches up until this point, do you know what lynches seem to fall apart in the later stage of the game (pikman was a hard lesson to learn and I own my part in that)?

LYNCHES ON SCUM. why? cos scum is controlling the lynch.

why do you guys think I try get on top of things and work with town so hard on d1? cos if town does not control the game on d1 then scum does.

[pirate mollie]

Look, I know what you're saying, but why the whole sidetracking thing with mollie?

All it did was antagonise her and bring him closer to being lynched. I think had he either not challenged at all, or challenged my slot and gone after grim hard, he would be in better standing now. Surely he must have anticipated taking flak for the challenge, so that just sounds like arbitrary and frankly bad play for scum-Majiffy.

cos he knows he can outargue me.

I am not going to be mad sera. but jesus christ plz get rid of majiffy in the next day round.

[serrapaladin]

Ugh, I do still think this is probably mollie being town :/

If Majiffy really is scum, why, out of all people, would he decide to go after you? If he's scum, I think that's literally one of the worst things he could have done. You were townreading him before that right? So why would he do that? Why pick you to outargue, when he could have just gone straight for my lynch?

[serrapaladin]

Actually no, screw this. I still want to say they're both town, but if I'm wrong about one, I'd rather have it be scum-mollie looking too town to be scum than scum-Majiffy's actions being bad play for scum. If that means I just let scum-mollie AtE me off a good vote then I apologise, but I'm more comfortable with this:

VOTE: Majiffy

[pirate mollie]

I wouldn't have followed him so easily as I have been. seraph was scum reading me the day before, ap has been bi-polar but I think if he would have gone after grim it would have exposed him.

it isn't like there isn't a precedent, he tried to get me lynched on tr but none of the players would have it cos they know me there. he has a greater advantage on this site.

[serrapaladin]

Besides Majiffy, who do you currently see as scum? Do you think there was any scum on the Majiffy wagon when it was going strong?

[Wisdom]

This is scum-mollie, serra.

[serrapaladin]

Wait, what? When did you change your mind?

[Wisdom]

Now that I read her posts.

[serrapaladin]

??

[Wisdom]

Her last posts remind me of scum-mollie.

[serrapaladin]

Go on.

[Wisdom]

mollie/Venmar/qwints
Seraphic if qwints is wrong.

Now let's finish mollie.

[Majiffy]

Yeah, but he claimed that he challenged so he could see mollie's reaction, which I'm inclined to believe

.

I don't not for 1 second.

fucking A, the timing of when he did this was bad bad bad and

he knew this

. he immediately places a vote on me to test "my reaction" but I don't get from what he has said that he was even interested in my reaction.

*Ahem*

Spoiler: Exhibit A

I, for one, am satisfied with the Elyse lynch. Didn't hit scum, but whatevz.

Challenge: Silver

Time for Mollie to rage at me.

Wait was that no to you not raging at me or no to Wisdom voting me?

Mollieeeee

Ok.

Why aren't you freaking out like last time I challenged?

It really doesn't get any more clear-cut than that.

I mean... Wait, Mollie has the words for this;

jesus christ it is right there in there in the thread.

Actually no, screw this. I still want to say they're both town, but if I'm wrong about one, I'd rather have it be scum-mollie looking too town to be scum than scum-Majiffy's actions being bad play for scum. If that means I just let scum-mollie AtE me off a good vote then I apologise, but I'm more comfortable with this:

VOTE: Majiffy

u r idjit.

[qwints]

Looks like at least one of Majiffy/mollie is definitely scum, this doesn't seem like the right time for them to break their mutual town reads if they were both scum.

Majiffy has dominated the game in a way that hasn't helped town. Given his influence in the game, and the skill I normally see from him, I don't think we'd be where we were if he were town motivated.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Majiffy