Xenogears Mafia (Game Over)

[Trust Fund]

@ syr

I asked him about bro's play in red wedding and if he was seeing the same weird uncertainty. nacho scum read him in that game but they were both still alive in xeno while I was dead. I understood why nacho was reading him as scum cos the xeno and the rw game held vastly different play by bro. I would like mac's input on that and nacho's now that is able to put the 2 games in perspective.

Ah, okay. Not something I can answer. I'll send him the link for when he gets online then.

[thezmon221]

You know that Rach connects herself to other scum obviously, right? Because... Cabd just gave 2 links of doing so, and apparently has more. Besides, there's always some connection, but the point is, Rach is scum.

Unless I read something wrong there are also examples that don't follow the trend you describe, which means that it's not even a trend.

And it's not limited to just Rach. Mastin's post reads like a deleted scene from A Beautiful Mind and I don't understand how that brand of scumhunting is useful D1.

I've been waiting on the aspect because of that wrong meta, Despo. I need Cabd to give me more games where the other is the case. If it's like a 4-1 in favor of Cabd's meta, then I'd be on board with it.

Not to mention she has been playing, like I said, very similarly to her Xenoblade scum game AFAIK. She was just more active in that game.

[TiphaineDeath]

That big post of mastins does not read nearly as town to me as it does to you grumpy cat.

[Ghostlin]

Did read the C and H post you linked me to. It's not the same thing, although I understand the feeling you're talking about Des.

[zMuffinMan]

just going to put it out there

i, for one, am glad that we didn't quicklynch skullduggery before mastin got his thoughts out.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

muffin, in pikman mastin had asked town to wait before lynching a player who didn't have a shitton of votes. player was lynched before mastin was able to post his thoughts but he fortunately he was able to anyways cos there was a lengthy twilight.

[Ghostlin]

That big post of mastins does not read nearly as town to me as it does to you grumpy cat.

just going to put it out there

i, for one, am glad that we didn't quicklynch skullduggery before mastin got his thoughts out.

In this post, Muff wins the thread. Although, the Skull wagon has increased by 50%. So she's still in very real danger.

[zMuffinMan]

Although, the Skull wagon has increased by 50%. So she's still in very real danger.

this might be another case of a fast wagon meaning the person being voted is town.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

Although, the Skull wagon has increased by 50%. So she's still in very real danger.

this might be another case of a fast wagon meaning the person being voted is town.

tell us more about how vigging the IC is optimal play

and when you and ghostlin stop sucking each others' dicks long enough to engage other players in the game mebbe we will be able to lynch scum today

[Sound of Silence]

Hey Ghostlin, I don't think I heard back from you re those players you wanted our thoughts about.

Sup?

[Faster Than Light]

Hey, actually, I've hit some pretty big discoveries so far in my ISO-reads-post. I really want to get to post it before the day ends, so can you guys -please- not lynch anyone until then, at least? I feel like I've snagged some really important D1 info that a lot of people are overlooking. It's more substantive than anything I can do in an off-the-cuff post, so, please, if anyone gets to L-1, fucking wait.

-V

[zMuffinMan]

@bnb,

Do you want to engage me? Because you're not asking me questions, and seeing as the Andrius wagon is going nowhere until you either do something about it or he posts something that you can call scummy (hint: not happening in the next 24 hours, according to his latest post), I think the burden is on you to engage other players if you want your lynch to happen.

In the mean time, I still have to wait for RM to post some stuff so I can call all of it scummy and whine about how everyone is ignoring the obvscum in her posts. So forgive me if I make light banter while I wait. You're free to ignore it and pretend I'm not here, I imagine that's what's happened with most of my posts in this game anyway.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

@bnb,

Do you want to engage me? Because you're not asking me questions, and seeing as the Andrius wagon is going nowhere until you either do something about it or he posts something that you can call scummy (hint: not happening in the next 24 hours, according to his latest post), I think the burden is on you to engage other players if you want your lynch to happen.

universal scumtells that andy has dropped:

- thread avoidance
- posturing
- buddying
- over-defensiveness when pushed
- appeal to crowd
- lack of cogent progression of reads
- reads list soup which you guys are and heavy to leap all over rach for but seem to ignore that andy did the same thing. the difference is you have people telling you that rach does this as town but other people are telling you that andy does not <--- tangential to a meta read so you will probably ignore it.

there are plenty of objective tells to work from there so why aren't you

In the mean time, I still have to wait for RM to post some stuff so I can call all of it scummy and whine about how everyone is ignoring the obvscum in her posts. So forgive me if I make light banter while I wait. You're free to ignore it and pretend I'm not here, I imagine that's what's happened with most of my posts in this game anyway.[/quote]

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

oops messed up quote tags

@ mod will you plz fix the broken tags in our previous post? ty

[Venmar]

Everyone reading me as scum is pretty dumb tbh. It really is funny though, it seems to boil down to the fact I read Rach and Mala as town, and Andrius a bit too. WOW NICE REAAAAAAADS GUYS. jk they suck that's opportunistic as fuck thinking. THINK THIS THROUGH, DO YOU THINK I WOULD BUDDY 3 OF MY SCUMBUDDIES

[Faster Than Light]

Everyone reading me as scum is pretty dumb tbh. It really is funny though, it seems to boil down to the fact I read Rach and Mala as town, and Andrius a bit too. WOW NICE REAAAAAAADS GUYS. jk they suck that's opportunistic as fuck thinking. THINK THIS THROUGH, DO YOU THINK I WOULD BUDDY 3 OF MY SCUMBUDDIES

:3

This.

-V

[Venmar]

But it's more than that. The PGO claim makes him virtually immune to actions, lest a town player risk being killed. I don't think it fits into the setup now that I think about it, and the whole claim reeks of being faked. But beyond that, there's his interactions.

- Go complain to Bork for giving me the role. Besides, even if I was faking it, it's no alignment indicative, think of it as me pulling a Mattp.

His stubborn insistence that I am scum goes beyond reason. This is particularly true with scum lacking daychat (a fact I am rather certain of), since his scumbuddies aren't capable of saying, "Venmar, STOP! YOU'RE GOING TO AWAKEN THE BEAST! MASTIN IS TOO DAMN GOOD A PLAYER TO TRY AND MISLYNCH!"

- Tunneling is not a scumtell, SORRY BUD NOT HAPPENING.
- The whole daychat thing is PATHETIC and seriously pulling at straws.

The only way they can do so is via the thread. (You'll be seeing a bit of that later.) He's defending Rach, he's calling Nacho town, he chainsaw defended Andrius (via calling Mac scum) while simultaneously leaving open the option of a double-bus (1521), his read on nick has been weak-distancing, and has Malakittens as town.

- More daychat stuff? Dude get out of here.
- You interpreting me as chainsaw defending Andrius for calling Mac scum is also SERIOUSLY pulling at straws cause i called Mac scum for his abysmal reasoning, bad and opportunistic jump onto the wagon, and scummy sheeping. I would've done the same if he voted Rach.
- OH IM SCUM FOR CALLING PEOPLE TOWN? GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD JOB JK THAT REASONING SUUUUUUUUCKS. Come back to me when the people I call town flip scum, THEN TRY TO PULL SOMETHING

[Venmar]

Nachomamma8 is scum.

:'(
i thought you of all people would see the true me

- Venny gets no love for correcly townreading Nacho I guess

Nacho, lets make a deal. You help me lynch one of my scumreads, and i'll take a nice looooooooooooooong look at Skull and interactions around his slot during the night.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

Nachomamma8 is scum.

:'(
i thought you of all people would see the true me

- Venny gets no love for correcly townreading Nacho I guess

Nacho, lets make a deal. You help me lynch one of my scumreads, and i'll take a nice looooooooooooooong look at Skull and interactions around his slot during the night.

so who are your scumreads, mac and mastin who else

[Venmar]

Thezmons #1430 is probably a nice example of why we should not be lynching Rachmaria

Hey. You're probably one of those players who resists just for pride reasons, aren't you? 1490sums up the whole argument if you're gonna be like Mala and said, "buh buh but you're voting her cuz she's useless." Fact of the matter is, it's far, far deeper than that, and the uselessness is centered on total scum motivation. Go ahead and read some more after 1490 of Aj's posts on association and such, and then read a few of Muffin. All signs point to Rach scum.

I hated your Rach reasons cause you tried to make every one of her posts looks scummy no matter what. When you try to make every single little thing about a person scummy, then you're just trying to fit the person to the read ( lol hey majiffy you taught me this one right? ). You're trying too hard, you're also probably barking up the wrong tree mister.

[Venmar]

Btw, me calling Thezmon and AJ dumb or saying they should not lynch Rach, does not mean i'm scumreading them, I just think they're going in the opposite direction.

[Venmar]

[quote="In post 1643, BeautyAndTheBeast"so who are your scumreads, mac and mastin who else[/quote]
- Probably Mastin, FTL, Nick, Mac, in no particular order.

I'm still keeping my eye on TD however...

[Venmar]

pro formatting #2013

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

venny

[Venmar]

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