Newbie 1420: Fireproof (Game Over)

[VT]

To me, VT looks like he is trying to dumb down his play. It doesn't look very Genuine at all, much like how TIP played his first game (as mafia) on site where I tagged him for doing such.

I'm trying to figure out logistics here, I know the general concept of this game I've played a lot in real life but I can't imagine getting "serious" reads from one thought out post, normally we try to gauge instinctive physical reactions

But seriously can someone pleaseeeeee answer this? I just don't understand how you can possibly seriously read someone like Proph or even just anyone besides Smoker on the first page/early second page

But I think I've seen enough at this point to get some instincts, Smoker is definitely town although he claims to be newb see I think THAT's weird he knows wayy more than I do.

Also in my experience with claiming, you only do it if you're seriously voting them but since I don't think we were seriously voting notscience at the beginning you asking to claim was bad for town because it helps mafia find the "PR"s, so I think you telling notscience to claim was bad

Notscience instinctually seems town but I'm not getting the infinity town thing from Smoker, can you explain that please?

Mara is very helpful but because she is so experienced and she has a duty to be helpful I'm not sure if she's town or mafia.

Actually I don't really like how Smoker has the most votes, since it looks easy to justify a vote on Smoker so mafia would go for that, so I think mafia has probably voted for Smoker at least once.

I'm going to go VOTE: ASimplePlan

Your 39 seems way too focused on Smoker it just feels weird, seems opportunistic almost

[VT]

Oh wow Proph Thenewearth and Super Serious have all only posted once, what if everyone else is town and this is just stupid discussion loll

Because literally I can only pick scum from 5 serious candidates at this point: Mara, Rach, SimplePlan, Smoker (very town), and notscience (quite town)

What do we normally do in these situations, do we try and look for mafia with only the information and players that we have, or is this just a waste of discussion?

[notscience]

If you have players already here, try to figure out their alignment. Inactives get replaced.

[Prophylaxis]

V/LA from Sunday to Wednesday.

I won't have internet access during those times. On Wednesday I'll go more in depth on things.

Unvote, vote thenewearth

Self voting during RVS is a scumtell.

[notscience]

Self voting during RVS is a scumtell.

I disagree.

Feel free to give a case though.

[Smoker]

Well, VT is ringing town as hell now, no? And I'm still pretty sure notscience is town, though maybe he's being a bit pro-town. His 'you're baiting me' and 'mara you better not be pulling same as last game' do kinda seem overkill but then maybe not, maybe he's just thinking.

I'm more inclined towards prophy here to be honest. newearthguy is probably town? though I get any foothold on what mentality would have a person self-vote in fairness, but it seems less likely to be a mafioso's mindset?

Yeah, notscience is probably town. Just read him taking on prophy's case which seems consistent with how a townie might be thinking this game.

VOTE: prophy

He's off sunday til wednesday, seems a bit ridiculous.

[Smoker]

Half of these players could do with being replaced, dudes.

[Smoker]

I'm just going to expound on what I think life is, while I'm waiting. Just sat through a tremendously stupid argument; gotta keep my spirits up somehow.

Well, basically, I think life's just a big ball of madness, LOL. No but seriously, madness. I mean, take laughing and crying for example: the two fruits of life, really, but then easily perceived also as just tools. Laughing the less severe reaction to one's environment, heightening to tears during more stressful times, tears being broken by a laugh when things don't seem so bleak anymore. Consider tickling, for example. But then if laughter and sadness are tools, what's left, you ask?

[pause from dramatic effect]

Well, I've not really figured that one out actually. You see people writing about 'contentedness' as though this is the more reasonable goal, but I dunno... I mean, laughter might be looked upon as that contentedness, no? No change. And then it all boils down into the Nirvana debate that's been raging amongst the Buddhists for I don't know how long, and it's all just a bit silly, isn't it?

And so life is madness. One might imagine some core, and to everything, some attempting to achieve harmony on the universe's part, us all playing our own individual parts in that with our laughing and crying, two tools for bringing us back to zero, blahh, but I don't know... do you? I do like to laugh, be sad, etc., though.

And so we will suffer on perhaps?

[Smoker]

That said, I do believe in a sort of Heaven. But then only as like a balancing act. I dunno... just seems a nice idea, and better yet in its elusiveness, funnily.

Mad world, eh? We're are but bickering brothers and sisters, as is family.

[Smoker]

^I towntold

[thenewearth]

^I towntold

Actually you saying you just towntold just screams that you're scum.

[Smoker]

I was thinking newearthguy was town all right.

[Ms Marangal]

Jesus christ Smoker, slow down

UNVOTE:

Hmm...

Notsci is probably town, the fact that he's paranoid that I would do something similar to what I have done in a scum game, and thus, might actually be scum this game looks pretty genuine.

Smoker is taking center stage, not caring how anyone looks at him and usually, that's something most scum players avoid doing. much less, newbie players. He's owning up to his experience, and playing like he doesn't give a crap. He's pretty obviously scum-hunting and isn't scared to be antagonistic though, if he ever turns out to be experienced scum, I'll have to reconsider my read on him

You're looking a whole lot better, though the whole thing about how I'm reading people early on has to do with how they present themselves, and wot-not. First impressions, and the kind of vibes they give off from their first post. Every post has a mind-set behind it, more that what is being presented and it is up to town to try and figure out where the mind-set of the posts are coming from.

VOTE: Prophy

TNE looks a little townish, and RVS self-voting isn't very scummy at all

[Smoker]

Yeah, made quite the few mistakes there. You seem to be following along pretty well though!

[Smoker]

Also, do I really seem like a scummy kinda of guy, Ms Mangal? :3

That was very interesting post, I must say. Now I'm not saying I'm not, but what do you think?

[VT]

You're looking a whole lot better, though the whole thing about how I'm reading people early on has to do with how they present themselves, and wot-not. First impressions, and the kind of vibes they give off from their first post. Every post has a mind-set behind it, more that what is being presented and it is up to town to try and figure out where the mind-set of the posts are coming from.

This is for me right? Interesting I guess I'll just have to learn from experience.. So what's the basis behind your Proph vote? Is it his first or second post?

^I towntold

Actually you saying you just towntold just screams that you're scum.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think he just said that for lollz

I was thinking newearthguy was town all right.

Also what's this? Did his attack on you reverse your opinion on him? Bleh

Smoker you've done lots of town things but you've also done some mafia things so I don't even know if I have that strong of a townread on you anymore.

[thenewearth]

I really don't care if he did or not.

But it's still scumtell.

He could always say "Oh it's only for lols" and we drop it.
NO

[Smoker]

Jesus christ Smoker, slow down

UNVOTE:

Hmm...

Notsci is probably town, the fact that he's paranoid that I would do something similar to what I have done in a scum game, and thus, might actually be scum this game looks pretty genuine.

Smoker is taking center stage, not caring how anyone looks at him and usually, that's something most scum players avoid doing. much less, newbie players. He's owning up to his experience, and playing like he doesn't give a crap. He's pretty obviously scum-hunting and isn't scared to be antagonistic though, if he ever turns out to be experienced scum, I'll have to reconsider my read on him

You're looking a whole lot better, though the whole thing about how I'm reading people early on has to do with how they present themselves, and wot-not. First impressions, and the kind of vibes they give off from their first post. Every post has a mind-set behind it, more that what is being presented and it is up to town to try and figure out where the mind-set of the posts are coming from.

VOTE: Prophy

TNE looks a little townish, and RVS self-voting isn't very scummy at all

I found the bit about

if it turns out I'm an experienced scum player

pretty interesting. Not quite too sure what to make of it yet, but seemed kinda townie I guess; like you were wondering about my reads on you, that maybe I was thinking little of you to have a so-solid read on you at this stage?

I'm just wondering: is this what went through your head? Because, well, that'd be a very townie thing to go through your head. And then as regards the veracity of your consideration (if that was your consideration ), I'd say the truth always leaks through, so don't worry

Notsci getting first consideration was also kinda townie I think. You guys are friends obviously? It was flippant - sorry, notsci - which suggests he wasn't the real consideration here, but me. It's to do with truth-telling; with truth-tellers you'll always get an emotional sequence rather than a chronological one, the sequence here being:

-playing with notsci
-oh here's this dick, being all condescending and shit; oh no, my ego!!
-ok write something
-ok notsci might get mad, "Hi notscie!"
-"Now you son of a bitch," you start, considering me
-"Hmm, I like him, though"
-etc.
fin
LOL, amirite? Sorry, I need a lol every once in a while

[Cheery Dog]

Super Serious Gal has received the first prod of the game.

[Smoker]

@VT

Yes actually, that attack on me by newearth did leave me thinking he was town. He probably just read everything I said; hadn't a clue; was frustrated by that; thought this dude is surely scum to feel better about himself; and then upon reading my last post after all of that, that being, "I towntold," exclaimed his earlier sentiment, "No! You're scum!"

I dunno, I'm reading dumb town anyway, and then that fits in well with his self-voting. Yeah, dumb defeatist townie.

[Smoker]

Well, this would be him defiant now, because we wouldn't just let him self-vote. I dunno, this makes sense and only really if he's town, i.e., doesn't have a known-for-sure partner. Yeah, town.

[Cheery Dog]

Super Serious Gal has requested replacement, will seek one out asap.

[Cheery Dog]

Vote Count 1.1

Player	L-4 Vote	L-3 Vote	L-2 Vote	L-1 Vote	L-0 Vote (Hammer)	Total Votes
Smoker	RachMarie	A Simple Plan	notscience			3
thenewearth	thenewearth	Prophylaxis				2
Prophylaxis	Smoker	Ms Marangal				2
notscience	Super Serious Gal					1
A Simple Plan	VT					1

Not Voting

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch Deadline (expired on 2013-08-29 07:00:00)

Seeking replacement for Super Serious Gal
Prophylaxis is on V/LA from 18/8 until 21/8

[notscience]

Was it something I said?

[Cheery Dog]

Is this a bump I see before me?