Mini 1482: Castle - A Mafia Murder So Vile (GAME OVER)

[theslimer3]

My point is you're calling fitz town for making sense.
Scum can make sense too.

Well imo it looks like townsense

[Malakittens]

Castle [after seeing Alexis dressed maturely for work]: Did that ever happen to you with me? One day you look and see your boy all grown up?
Martha: I’m still waiting for that moment, actually.
Castle: ...I set you up for that, didn’t I?

1.18

With thirteen alive it will take seven to lynch.

*macmollie - thenewearth [1]
*theslimer3 - Serrapaladin, Bert, Lynx_Shine [3]
*Sweet Pertayter - theslimer3 [1]
*thenewearth - penguin_alien, Wisdom, macmollie [3]
*Mantisdreamz - havingfitz [1]
*Wisdom - Sweet Pertayter [1]
*Serrapaladin -
*Desperado -
*Lynx_Shine -
*Bert -
*Natirasha - Desperado [1]
*penguin_alien -
*havingfitz -

Not Voting [2]: Natirasha, Mantisdreamz

Chapter 1 Ends..

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2013-08-19 03:52:00)

(There are no hints/clues in this flavor or in any flavor of the vote counts or death scenes. It's for entertainment purposes.)

[theslimer3]

You can delete my first post and move it here if you want the top Mallers

[macmollie]

"If you don't think Nat is town, she is a much better lynch today" is just terribly awkward phrasing. It's sort of wanting to shift the wagon over to Nat without taking responsibility for it. "She's not null anymore" about Nati is equally awkward. That looks different to how you took stances and developed reads in Nuzlocke.

The way you're defending him, you're not scum with tne.

this is a terribly weird post since I read that what you were saying was awkward was how mara said you had never played with her when she has been scum.

since that was the post you quoted.

and now it kind of looks like you are moving flagpoles in order to include something you never addressed in the first place. :/

I think some call it misdirection

[macmollie]

slimer is a convenient D1 mislynch to push, isn't he?

This is a loaded question.

Nope, this was me stating that I think slimer is being pushed because he's a convenient easy mislynch.

then why are you not pushing sera harder?

[macmollie]

VOTE: sera

[Malakittens]

Prodding TNE. I would prod HavingFitz, but he's V/LA so he's kinda immune to prods.

[thenewearth]

VOTE: thenewearth

I am good with this but for realz, don't let slimer lurk his way to victory he has done that before. he definitely needs to be lynched before endgame and mac played a recent game with him where slimer was scum and he says he is getting the same vibe.

If you were "good with this" then why haven't you voted me until Wisdom did?

[Mantisdreamz]

will post soon

[thenewearth]

I felt the same way about my predecessor. This was my first time to be scum as well. I felt like if I gave my "reads," Nacho would know that it would be BS. I was hiding/lurking like a coward. Hahaha. Being town is so much more fun for me!

That quote from 503's post game seems pretty apt.

Unvote: Bert

Talk to me about Wisdom. Is the endless one line post ISO their playstyle or is it a relative scumtell? Because so far this game looks an awful lot like Wisdomscum from 503.

yes. wis is scum. let's lynch him

VOTE: wisdom

he does a lot of 1 liners as both alignments but his questions lack follow-up and it seems like town wis would complaining about the slow pace of the game. he isn't the easiest person in the world to meta but this is a gut read too.

Look at how macmollie votes desp, desp says to talk about wisdom, then macmolllie says "Oh sure, vote wisdom"
They're just sheeping, really. If they do think that wisdom was scum, then why would they wait for someone to tell them about wisdom?

Null: <Mollie> I wish Nacho were here to read her for me but really I look at her to stay really engaged and I look for her to get really mad at me, then I think I'll be able to say for sure whether she is town or not but so far she seems to be doing real scumhunting, and she just tried to engage me in the game so that's a total plus.

so I just...want to get this straight. you have me down as a null read but you sheeped our vote onto desp and are trusting our town read on him? and you have us as

null

?

even for you, this does not even remotely make sense.

Why so hell bent on being read as town?

@ bert

I also went after you too in the friends banging your mom game and I was scum. right now I am giving you some space for you to get stuff done. capice?

And self-meta'ing to be read as town. I'm pretty sure scums are the only one who are hell bent on being called town.

OK

Will you promise me that you're town by telling me now

bert if you cannot tell that we are town then I do not know what to tell you.

read our posts. look at what we are doing. I shouldn't have to promise you anything you should be able to figure it out on your own.

More I-AM-FUCKING-TOWN posts.

Has this game caught your interest?

If not,

Vote: macmollie

it doesn't feel like you are trying to actively advance the game

I don't like this

NO

that isn't mara

we are the third top poster in the game

and every single bit of our posts have contained content.

so who am I on a scum team with if you are going to pursue this avenue?

Wow the volume of I-AM-FUCKING-TOWN-POST.
Are you not seeing this, guys?

I'm not sure that you're scum; I need more to go off, but I lost my townread on you...stuck in between

You and desp, and one of those other people under the radar...I don't know the third one will you give me time

I feel like Ill lose a 1v1 with you so You're gonna ram my argument into the ground like u did with the desp/mollie thing

You're a threat so we need to pressure you and get some help to see if you're scum.

we are only a threat if we are scum.

where exactly did you lose your town read? walk me through it

why don't you want to pressure someone who is flying under the radar?

Uhg... More...

And they added some deflection, as well.

reads

tator - om says he is sus of me then mara comes in and is all like "we never suspected you" and then went awol when I proved her wrong. in the mean time om continues a push on me without ever addressing that post. scum.

desp - mac says town so I am going with it. he gives me hope

wis - very low key, unusual for him but I can follow his thought processes and the 1 game I played against him as scum I could not. null to town

bert - terribad town.

mantis - unsure. I give lots of reads very early and she should know this. especially with the early town read on her and she should know why. so I am confused

nats - town based on gut

lynx - mara foses her but lets continue his sad push on me and then she pops up is all like "hydras oh noes!" but responds to a hydra in a manner that suggests familiarity. hedges her read on us (distancing from a town mislynch but wants to blend in) and tries to strengthen her weak scumread on bert by saying we are not partners. she is setting bert up for a future mislynch cos she knows how I will flip re: why she is hedging her read. that kind of clears bert, not sure how helpful he will be. scum.

penguin - unsure. if you are town plz get your head in the game

arc - unsure. the "huh" tell is not rock solid, she does it as scum.

tne - if desp did not give a town read I would be all over him. so, town cos desp said so

VOTE: lynx

I would really rather see that tator thing go but lynx is dropping such classic scumtells that I am really hoping that people with half a brain can see it.

Reads:

tater: OMG HAHAHA THEY ARE WRONG XD XD SCUM
desp: My other head says so huehuehue
wis: oh... I never seen his scum game so he's town.
bert: OMG HAHAHA TOWN BECAUSE I SAID SO HAHAHA
mantis: IDK I just vote mantis because I want to.
lynx: because everyone else is town, she's scum
penguin: I'll call you town if you post
arc: Scum cause I say so
tne: town because SHEEEEEEEP

Uhhg...

[serrapaladin]

slimer is a convenient D1 mislynch to push, isn't he?

No, actually. Not at all. In the current site meta, people get up in arms if they so much as sense the word 'policy'. There were plenty of people who had already been put under pressure and would have been easier mislynches so this is not just a "loaded" question, but bullshit.

slimer, if you scum-lurk for a few days only to replace out, that's really no different. Even disregarding the games where you replaced out, there's hardly any difference between your play in the Longest Micro and Faith +1, neither of whom I would want around, and you're posting less now than in either.

slimer's townread on fitz is hilariously unjustified.

Lynx was sort of overeager to convict slimer, but I'm still leaning town-overeagerness.

"If you don't think Nat is town, she is a much better lynch today" is just terribly awkward phrasing. It's sort of wanting to shift the wagon over to Nat without taking responsibility for it. "She's not null anymore" about Nati is equally awkward. That looks different to how you took stances and developed reads in Nuzlocke.

The way you're defending him, you're not scum with tne.

this is a terribly weird post since I read that what you were saying was awkward was how mara said you had never played with her when she has been scum.

since that was the post you quoted.

and now it kind of looks like you are moving flagpoles in order to include something you never addressed in the first place. :/

I think some call it misdirection

I'm not sure if you need to lay off the drugs or a lesson in reading comprehension, but here goes:

Mara said I have never seen her as scum, when I actually had. Her not remembering having played with me is

situationally

awkward.

Then there was my reply to desp. I had said that his Nati push didn't look right; he asked why, and I responded that his

phrasing

("well, if you don't really think Nat is town, maybe you guys could vote him instead...") was awkward and uncharacteristic.

slimer is a convenient D1 mislynch to push, isn't he?

This is a loaded question.

Nope, this was me stating that I think slimer is being pushed because he's a convenient easy mislynch.

then why are you not pushing sera harder?

Oh my...

VOTE: sera

I'm seriously starting to entertain that TNE might be right about mollie, and even if he's not, that last post doesn't look like scum.

[Sweet Pertayter]

Where have you played with Scum-me?

You've played with town me plenty times, but I don't recall you playing with Scum-me

I've played with Scum-you though but, I barely remember that game :/

[serrapaladin]

I'll let you try to remember that one to be fair, it wasn't particularly long, and you killed me, but I have played with scum-you...

And oh that scum-game of mine was awful. Not one of my proudest moments.

Do you still think Wisdom is most scummy? If not slimer, who else would you consider?

I'm not particularly feeling a tne lynch, and no one is interested in desp, so if people keep hating on me wanting to lynch slimer I might join you on Wisdom.

[Sweet Pertayter]

ooohhhhhhh

That game where I replaced Mollie

riiiiight...

That didn't last long...

Yeah, I still think Wisdom might be scum. Mollie has a point in Wisdom not pushing his reads hard enough and that is kinda weird. I really, really don't want to go after Slimer, and My other head doesn't agree with my reasons but we do have a common read on Wisdom so that's the one we are pushing

We both have a weaker consensus on Mantis, though I would prefer to go after the stronger read

[Sweet Pertayter]

oh

and we would also be ok with a desp wagon

[theslimer3]

slimer, if you scum-lurk for a few days only to replace out, that's really no different. Even disregarding the games where you replaced out, there's hardly any difference between your play in the

Longest Micro

and

Faith +1

, neither of whom I would want around, and you're posting less now than in either.

Mixed references. I was town in Faith +1.
Also I didn't replace out of Longest Micro.

Farthermore, the game I did replace in, I came right back in. (just wanted to say that, it didn't have much to do with anything)

Also, in Longest, I've posted the second most, what are you even talking about?

slimer's townread on fitz is hilariously unjustified.

Can't take a joke it seems. It's a gut read if you couldn't read between the lines. And if you really couldn't, an unjustified vote sounds like an even worse way of saying "I don't understand".


VOTE: Serra
I've had enough of this.

Fixed booch color tags ~ Mala

[theslimer3]

Mala fix that please

[macmollie]

"If you don't think Nat is town, she is a much better lynch today" is just terribly awkward phrasing. It's sort of wanting to shift the wagon over to Nat without taking responsibility for it. "She's not null anymore" about Nati is equally awkward. That looks different to how you took stances and developed reads in Nuzlocke.

The way you're defending him, you're not scum with tne.

this is a terribly weird post since I read that what you were saying was awkward was how mara said you had never played with her when she has been scum.

since that was the post you quoted.

and now it kind of looks like you are moving flagpoles in order to include something you never addressed in the first place. :/

I think some call it misdirection

I'm not sure if you need to lay off the drugs or a lesson in reading comprehension, but here goes:

Mara said I have never seen her as scum, when I actually had. Her not remembering having played with me is

situationally

awkward.

Then there was my reply to desp. I had said that his Nati push didn't look right; he asked why, and I responded that his

phrasing

("well, if you don't really think Nat is town, maybe you guys could vote him instead...") was awkward and uncharacteristic.

I don't think there is a thing wrong with my reading comprehension skillz when you quote 1 post, never address it and then respond to another.

[Natirasha]

Slimmer, don't omgus.

[Wisdom]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: macmollie

[theslimer3]

In addition, Nati and slimer are pretty convenient targets to go after.

...

Could we just policy-lynch slimer? Like seriously, he's not going to replace out, he won't contribute, and he'll be a liability towards endgame.

...

So I feel desp/Wis as scum, with a likely third among {slimer, mantis, Nati, fitz}.

My plug for today's lynch would probably be slimer though. What mollie has been saying is absolutely true and somehow slimer has actually managed to look worse here than usual. We can call it semi-policy.

It's genuinely a much better idea to take care of slimer now when our lynch would be the least informed.

VOTE: slimer

Anyone who's trying to get me lynched with a crappy vote like this gets my omgus.
Well not anyone, but for some reason this just looks like the crappiest wagon setup.

My absence wasn't intentional.

My absence wasn't intentional.

My absence wasn't intentional.

My absence wasn't intentional.

And even if it was I'm back today.

[theslimer3]

I love my quote tags.


[failedtag]And Wisdom, sheep me. [/failedtag]

[Wisdom]

no, you sheep me.

[macmollie]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: macmollie

<3

I don't even have the energy to fight this so unless mac comes in here and posts then this is all you are getting

pretty sure mantis is scum wis.

also my notes. I didn't have arc as town cos she did not look obvtown to me and I think it is bullshit. she did the thing in pikman and mantis was in that game and has already said the "huh" tell is invalid and was wondering about her.

also inb4 sum1 asks me why if I am calling mantis scum is my vote on sera. its cos I think he is scummy too

[Wisdom]

Why is serra scum, mollie?