Mini 1478 ~ Mafia Xenologue (Game Over!)

[morph the cat]

So first up, anyone who is confused about it, we're still the only ones posting here. It's not like we gave oil tycoons our login info. They have a QT with us, and can relay messages through us. If you're still confused, go look up Paradox Prime (mini theme) for the Subwoofers, same thing.

Other head reporting in.

Haven't had the chance to talk to Tierce yet but uh...Dead Tycoons, why in the fuck are you reading Saki as town? The dude claimed to have been playing intentionally uselessly to mask his PR. Now that he's claimed, he's done exactly 0 scumhunting in this game still despite the fact that he has nothing to hide at this point.

So why?

Nacho's messages/requests:
Empire, please read LLD today, he needs that somewhat soon so he can draft his plans.
Nacho also wants to convey to you and tierce that he chose us becuase you were obvtown enough already, and that we are a 100% townread of his.

Prohawk, Lynching you today is not Nacho's only goal today, just merely the most fun one for him. The words "a fiery death" and "I want him to be horrified to draw bullshit scum ever agfain" factored quite heavily into the conversation. Futhermore, he points out your sakura hana vote was oppertunistic as fuck.

[morph the cat]

I've left syr's string of explitives out for good measure, for the record. Also saki, you jerk, you know ffery and I perfectly well too.

[Jabberwock]

Morph, I'll do that once I've calmed down and have some sense of objectivity (e.g., not going to respond to Saki for the rest of the Day phase). Last I talked to Tierce she told me she thinks LLD is town but isn't confident in her ability to read her at all.

[morph the cat]

Yeah saki that vote is pretty useless.

[morph the cat]

You killed off the only two players I knew in the game

The fuck is this, though?

[Saki]

I've left syr's string of explitives out for good measure, for the record. Also saki, you jerk, you know ffery and I perfectly well too.

Fine. I guess I do.
Won't move my vote on scumcritter.

[morph the cat]

I've left syr's string of explitives out for good measure, for the record. Also saki, you jerk, you know ffery and I perfectly well too.

Fine. I guess I do.
Won't move my vote on scumcritter.

Why is critter scum? Serious question.

[Purpkin]

though, Did Tiempire get a chance to talk to DDD before he died?

that is something I need to know

Begging your pardon?

UNVOTE: Saki (He's still scum, no one "forgets" a uPick exists.)

Need to talk with Empire and need to see if morph the cat actually control two votes. ProHawk lynch is beautiful and glorious but can wait for a little bit.

I'm taking this as a no?

I honestly don't know what to think of Saki. I told Bork Earlier that I thought LLD was town when he told me he was scum-reading her though, I don't remember why I was town-reading her to begin with.

I'll be around more tomorrow, and I'd like a little bit more time to do stuff

Pedit: Saki, as much paranoia I had on both of them earlier, they really are town. I don't think you're vote on them is very productive.

[Saki]

"Saki is scum."
> asks why
"Self-explanatory you *$@#$ + more AtE"

Doesn't actually think I'm scum but votes me anyways.

Why?
'cause they're scum.
How do we know this?

I asked something similar to "did you kill off the two people I knew"
No answer, just "LOOK AT SAKI" AtE

either
a) Those two are lazy players.
b) Those two are convinced I'm scum.

One of these are wrong.

Because on closer inspection you would notice that I pretty much pushed both wagons.
I contradicted myself.
Why would Jabberwock fail to see this?

Because either a) or b) is wrong.

And b) is wrong.
But they're pushing for a lynch on me?

Yeah.
Okay.
Scum.

[Saki]

Call it gut but I see their posts as pressure, but not scumhunting.

And yeah, lynch the townie who's a) claimed, b) promised their play gets better as the day goes on, and c) has proved himself multiple times over that he's an easy mislynch.

[Saki]

they really are town

Only to you, mtc, and nachomollie (and insert whoever else they're buddying)

[morph the cat]

nachomollie

What?

[Saki]

nachomollie

What?

Grr nachosyry*

[ProHawk]

The words "a fiery death" and "I want him to be horrified to draw bullshit scum ever agfain" factored quite heavily into the conversation.

I am

more than happy

to prove (with my town flip) he plays a crappy Mafia game because he can't be patient enough to sit down and do real analysis, but instead runs his mouth and impatiently creates crap reads.

This isn't his first game he screwed up and I guarantee it won't be the last until he drops his pride.

Tell me again how

my

Sakura vote is opportunistic, when yours (MorphtheCat) wasn't.

Since no one cared to read/understand/comment why scum-Morph would try to silence/not reveal that they could continue to communicate with OilTycoons, let's go for it this way.

Jabberwock/DTM. Please explain to me why scum-Morph would want to silence OilTycoons and not reveal that they still had a proxy vote

and

voice?

[Vi]

~Vote Count XXI:

Naesala and Lekain

ProHawk (3) ~ morph the cat, morph the cat, Purpkin,

(DTMaster)

morph the cat (1) ~ ProHawk
Andrius (1) ~ DTMaster
Jabberwock (1) ~ Saki

Not Voting:

Andrius, Daemon385,

(DTMaster,)

Lady Lambdadelta,

(ProHawk,) (Saki,)

Jabberwock

--With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Battery power:

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[Daemon385]

Hey everyone sorry for the lack of posting the past two days just got my computer back up after it totally crapping out on me. Will be back tomorrow with more of my thoughts and everything.

[Jabberwock]

Looked at thread, looked at Saki's whiny attitude, looked at lazy scum putting a burden on us that we have already explained thoroughly, not going to bother further.

Purpkin: I see no reason to clarify your initial question Today.

Also

damn

Naesala looks awesome for a sub--er, laguz.

[ProHawk]

Jabberwock/DTM. Please explain to me why scum-Morph would want to silence OilTycoons and not reveal that they still had a proxy vote and voice?

Am I the lazy scum?

[Purpkin]

I asked something similar to "did you kill off the two people I knew"
No answer, just "LOOK AT SAKI" AtE

This wasn't even phrased as a question...what were you expecting them to say?

Because on closer inspection you would notice that I pretty much pushed both wagons.
I contradicted myself.
Why would Jabberwock fail to see this?

Again, what were you expecting them to say? You didn't indicate you were expecting a response at all. This is why most reaction tests are dumb - you don't have the pass/fail conditions set realistically.

I wanted to call you scum for this when I first read your explanation of critter scum but now I think you really just didn't think this through well.

----

otherwise I'm nowheresville with reads and I'm forced to reread at this point because I'm second guessing everything and can't responsibly do anything except sheep OT right now.

[Saki]

I asked something similar to "did you kill off the two people I knew"
No answer, just "LOOK AT SAKI" AtE

This wasn't even phrased as a question...what were you expecting them to say?

Because on closer inspection you would notice that I pretty much pushed both wagons.
I contradicted myself.
Why would Jabberwock fail to see this?

Again, what were you expecting them to say? You didn't indicate you were expecting a response at all. This is why most reaction tests are dumb - you don't have the pass/fail conditions set realistically.

I wanted to call you scum for this when I first read your explanation of critter scum but now I think you really just didn't think this through well.

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otherwise I'm nowheresville with reads and I'm forced to reread at this point because I'm second guessing everything and can't responsibly do anything except sheep OT right now.

Expected them to proceed with making a case against me off it, since they were so convinced I'm scum?

Mhmm.

That reaction test was straightforward. I drop a scumtell. They pick up on it and lynch me, that's them lynching (null, either town or scum).
They don't pick up on it and ignore it, they don't want to lynch me, and that contradicts their previous behavior of wanting to lynch me, therefore they're scum.

Why push a lynch on someone you say is scum but don't think is scum?
= Why push a mislynch?
= because scum.

[morph the cat]

OT posted a bit more in our QT.

Nacho paraphrase attack go:

Nevermind, LLD town, no longer need empire for that.

Saki is scum after today's interactions, prohawk is still scum.

Syr:

Moprh is 100% town, purpkin is 100% town, Jabber is 99% town, Andy is 99% town. LLD is appx 80%town per nacho.
So that leaves three scumfucks somewhere in these four:
{DTM, Saki, Prohawk, Daemon}
And the one townie is somwhere in {DTM, Saki} because of the interactions between the two are very unlikely to be SvS.

Syr's preferred three man team right now is {Prohawk/Saki/Daemon} lynching in that order.

[morph the cat]

Hold on:I did a re-skim on Prohawk and something is off on this push. Mainly consistency of arguments. I'm at work so I will do a more detailed post later. BUT MY GUT IS SAYING THIS IS REALLY OFF.

Unvote

.

Vote Andi

Looking forward to seeing your detailed post when you get a chance.

[morph the cat]

There is no freaking way Morph is town.

Prohawk - ffery thinks he's trying divide and conquer on our slot and that he's targeting her as the relatively weaker partner of the hydra right now.
Cabd thinks this is scumhawk because of the level of tunneling and the refusal to look elsewhere.

This is the reason they gave of why I am scum.

When I ask Cabd to do the following...

How do you all find this town? Mr Meta. Go show me where I tunnel as scum. kthx.

We get... can you hear the crickets? Wanna know why? Cause he has seen me tunnel as town. Level of tunneling is not indicative of me being scum and is literally the dumbest excuse I have heard. When I have a reasonable amount of evidence/information and am confident I have found scum I will tunnel them until they eat rope, it is what I do.

Also, I haven't targeted ffery, not once. Nor have I even thought or made any mention that she is the weaker of the two players.

Nacho/Syr, you two better freaking pay attention to the game and posts I had made to you before the day ended. If you lose the game for us from the grave... dumb.

VOTE: MorphTheCat

Cabd pointed me at this offsite thread: http://www.sixprizes.com/forums/threads ... -win.9494/

He said he expects you to pick and choose posts that minimize the appearance of tunneling. I hope Empire at least will have a look at most or all of your posts.

The site doesn't have something comparable to ISO that I can find, but you can search a thread by user name Click search in the upper right corner of the thread page and enter Prohawk as the user name. I'd post a link to search results, but it's a dynamic link and I don't think it will work for others.

[Saki]

UNVOTE:

fuck just let me lurk and lynch me as you see fit

[morph the cat]

Also, OT has observed that our QT is more active than this thread has been so far Day 2. :/