Newbie 1419 - GAME OVER

Titus · Post Post #175 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2013 3:36 pm

Alright if that's the way you see it. As a general policy, someone reaches L-1 I ask if they want to claim. You draw that at a different place.

notscience · Post Post #176 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2013 3:39 pm

Verbs, do not claim until someone expresses intent.

I think he's scum, but this wagon is shit.

Titus · Post Post #177 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2013 3:42 pm

@NS, why do you think a wagon on scum is shit? :S

notscience · Post Post #178 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2013 3:48 pm

Because it's page fucking 7 and people are asking for a claim. Even if he IS scum we have NOTHING to go off of yet, and the day just started.

I'm willing to wager his buddy already is bussing him, but I can't tell who it is thus far because of how fast everyone jumps down his throat.

Titus · Post Post #179 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2013 3:57 pm

Nothing to go off of is not great, but given there would only be one scum in the game, they'd have trouble surviving that many mislynches. That is supposing his buddy is already mislynching rather than attempting to derail because "ZOMG the train is too early".

Brian Skies · Post Post #180 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2013 3:58 pm

In post 178, notscience wrote:Because it's page fucking 7 and people are asking for a claim. Even if he IS scum we have NOTHING to go off of yet, and the day just started.

I'm willing to wager his buddy already is bussing him, but I can't tell who it is thus far because of how fast everyone jumps down his throat.

I agree that I don't understand this wagon. You guys have been jumping down his throat about him analyzing a gambit, which he claimed was in response to Nacho's posts (which I have already suggested in post #153).

Brian Skies · Post Post #181 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:00 pm

I actually meant to quote post#176.

notscience · Post Post #182 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:01 pm

You trying to call me scum again Titus?

We have TWO mislynches. Assuming scum don't kill anyone on the wagon, and if verbs flips scum, that means we have a pool of 5 people to vote from. Assuming scum is in them, we still don't have enough lynches.

So yeah, no. We have so much time left today, we need to use it.

Titus · Post Post #183 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:05 pm

I'm not opposed to using time. I just want to apply pressure to someone who I believe is scummy and see what happens. I'm not sure what you mean by "not having enough lynches". A scum by himself would struggle to get three mislynches. They'd have to get more if the scums hit the wrong target.

I'm not trying to say you are scum. I still suspect you are scum.

Brian, everyone will analyze in the game. Half of the battle is looking at what specific words they are using rather than just the message they convey. Individual words can betray a mindset.

Brian Skies · Post Post #184 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:12 pm

In post 183, Titus wrote:I'm not opposed to using time. I just want to apply pressure to someone who I believe is scummy and see what happens. I'm not sure what you mean by "not having enough lynches". A scum by himself would struggle to get three mislynches. They'd have to get more if the scums hit the wrong target.

I'm not trying to say you are scum. I still suspect you are scum.

Brian, everyone will analyze in the game. Half of the battle is looking at what specific words they are using rather than just the message they convey. Individual words can betray a mindset.

Analyzing is useless if you don't understand the context. You have continually chosen to ignore the reason he offered his analysis in the first place.

Titus · Post Post #185 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:22 pm

I seem to think I have the context down pretty well. Go ahead and clue me in on what you think I am missing though.

mail-mi · Post Post #186 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2013 5:04 pm

I'm sorry but I am too busy for this right now I have to /out. Sorry!

JKMatthews · Post Post #187 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2013 5:10 pm

Ugh, get his replacement to claim then kill it!

Titus · Post Post #188 (ISO) » Mon Aug 19, 2013 3:37 pm

In post 187, JKMatthews wrote:Ugh, get his replacement to claim then kill it!

Why are you pushing for a replacement to claim while questioning my thoughts to have Verbs claim?

JKMatthews · Post Post #189 (ISO) » Mon Aug 19, 2013 3:50 pm

Because I was making a statement to the town. You implied you thought Verbs should be claiming, I want somebody out there to state intent to hammer so that Verbs's slot actually should be claiming...

notscience · Post Post #190 (ISO) » Mon Aug 19, 2013 3:51 pm

JKM that's scummy as fuck.

JKMatthews · Post Post #191 (ISO) » Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:10 pm

Explain. Perhaps I'm not explaining myself well, because I don't see how it's scummy at all...

notscience · Post Post #192 (ISO) » Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:29 pm

In post 189, JKMatthews wrote:You implied you thought Verbs should be claiming, I want somebody out there to state intent to hammer so that Verbs's slot actually should be claiming...

You want someone to claim intent so he can CLAIM.

We need to keep claims to a minimum, which you should know. Yet, you want to make him claim.

JKMatthews · Post Post #193 (ISO) » Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:57 pm

If you read closely you'll see I actually want him lynched, but you know, procedure and all...

Amrun · Post Post #194 (ISO) » Mon Aug 19, 2013 6:51 pm

VC 1.4

(4) Verbs - Nachomamma8, SXTLHGaiden, JKMatthews, Titus

(2) mail-mi - Shiidaji, Brian Skies
(1) Nachomamma8 - notscience
(1) Titus - Verbs

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Not Voting: mail-mi

V/LA:

Deadline: Tuesday, August 27, 12pm EDT

Spoiler: Vote History

If you spot any mistakes, please let me know.

notscience · Post Post #195 (ISO) » Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:18 am

So

You want someone lynched

When the day has barely been opened

He has posted like 10 times.

Tell me, what happens if he is scum? How do we find his partner?

What happens if he is town?

JKMatthews · Post Post #196 (ISO) » Tue Aug 20, 2013 3:42 am

If he's scum, you shouldn't be concerned. Assuming no PR interference, tomorrow would be 6v1 - even if literally no words had been said, it's pretty easy to say that's a game stacked against scum.

If he's town we analyse that, and potential night goings on, like always. Big deal?

Sure, more conversation is good in general, but if we're confident enough to lynch someone now, extra discussion is likely to be large amounts of scum-induced WIFOM.

Also why not give this level of heat to Titus for asking for a claim? That's what his conversation was actually about, after all...

JKMatthews · Post Post #197 (ISO) » Tue Aug 20, 2013 3:42 am

*this conversation

notscience · Post Post #198 (ISO) » Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:43 am

I already gave him heat, because both of you wanting a claim and a hammer this early is mad as hell.

How you all are "confident" he's scum is beyond me, especially given his activity.

Hell, we don't even have a formal reads list from him.

Yes, he is scummy.

No, he shouldn't be lynched this fast.

Titus · Post Post #199 (ISO) » Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:40 am

@NS, I ask for claim if the situation is appropriate. L-1 wihout suspicious opportunism qualifies. You both have grilled me on this. I agree a lynch shouldn't occur this fast but I would rather dispell the suspicion fast if Verbs is town so scum don't keep dragging it up. I am not 100% certain Verbs is scum but I am cerain enough to keep my vote there.

I don't like JKM's 196 though and it is shaking me, as if he doesn't want us to think about other players.