Mini 1468: Legends of the Hidden Temple- Game Over!

[AngryPidgeon]

I felt bad about promising Amrun I would investigate mollie after she died and having ZERO intention of doing anything that would prevent mollie from coasting

[Wisdom]

I think this game was won less with good scumplay and more by poor townplay.

this one million times. And yes, I include myself in that.

[Wisdom]

Venmar, replace out when you can't play the game, dude. We all were apathetic and wanted it to end, but no reason to throw it like that. And I don't only refer to the challenge. I mostly refer to the quickhammer on Majiffy after mollie was fucking obvscum.

And for once my crazy paranoia was right - AP's RL bullshit was bullshit.

On the plus side, I think I got the hang of reading mollie now. And Grimgroove probably.

[Wisdom]

Haschel, thanks for the game. The modding was excellent.

[pirate mollie]

so many haterz

[qwints]

Lol at the townie with the losing vote blaming someone else.

[Wisdom]

At least I didn't hammer Majiffy with mollie being obvscum.

[Amrun]

I felt bad about promising Amrun I would investigate mollie after she died and having ZERO intention of doing anything that would prevent mollie from coasting

Yes, I quickly realized the irony of this... /sigh

Also props to HC. Great modding.

[AngryPidgeon]

but hai if you are going to pick a game to throw your meta go for the gold.

What was this in reference to?

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

but hai if you are going to pick a game to throw your meta go for the gold.

What was this in reference to?

using shouty font and scumming it up to majiffy

[AngryPidgeon]

Oh I see. I was doing some of the same with my self-voting and RL story telling.

I defo would have known if I were actually hammered or not as town though.

[AngryPidgeon]

Also (ironically?) I later scumslipped about the series of events that led up to the fake hammer and how I perceived them. But it is also something I could have just dumb-slipped about as town so it wasn't a super strong tell.

[Amrun]

I never thought any of those were particularly compelling reasons to read you as town, ftr. RL excuse was null; the hammer thing I still thought looked very scummy.

Some shit you posted after that seemed town to me but I forget what.

[AngryPidgeon]

I dunno. I was kind of a loose scumread for everyone but I ruffled my feathers a bit and glared at everyone really hard so they would stop lynching me.

Seriously. I felt a lil dirty doing it, but I totally blended into the chaos Wisdom was orchestrating.

[Amrun]

I was pretty dead set on you for quite awhile.

I don't remember why I even dropped it now... Shit reason, obviously. Lol

[AngryPidgeon]

The scumteam played pretty openly scummy this game, but there was enough herpaderp clogging the thread for that to be not noticeable.

Like if anybody read my ISO, it was probably super apparent that I was letting Mollie slide by dubiously after weak attempts to reason with her and I defended qwints when he was lynchable and otherwise 'scumhunted' him when he wasn't. Hell I even tried to defend NS even though that ship was long since sunk.

Mollie lurked hard and coasted on people's early feelings for her (successfully). Not the most FANCY scumplay, but she did a good job off not drawing attention...and sometimes thats all you need to do.

Qwints is a fucking boss. I can't believe he kept going despite being a likely scum lynch in a nightless game since replacing in and facing a witch hunter right of the bat for 2 back to back lynches.

Honestly, I think the scumteam did ok. We capitalized on what was there.

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Town was SO close to finding us all game.

It really was scary and I was afraid to hell that if just ONE of us got lynched, the entire house of cards would crash down. If I ever got lynched, Qwints would look TERRIBLE for me defending him all the time. Fuck I basically scumread Elyse just so I could vote her over Qwints if I had to. Mollie/qwints also ( more passively) helped each other skate a lot of the time. And mollie and I had really dubious stances on each other that we just occasionally reinforced with weak reachouts.

I don't think that necessarily incriminated us, but just ONE scum flip probably would have unleashed a storm of associative tells(and allowed one bad lynch more and increased morale).

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The only time I'd say we seriously lucked out was on the 2nd to last game day. I frankly don't even know what to say about that, I thought we were going to lose when Mollie was getting ran up.

Town did ok, but couldn't pull it out for a couple reasons.

-Clogged up game thread. I intentionally contributed to this around the time Qwints was getting ran up
-Impatience and hardheadness. People wanted vanity wagons and got upset when their (sometimes scum) vanity wagons wouldn't happen. This led to bad compromises.
-Not townhunting at all.

[AngryPidgeon]

Like everyone was in such a hurry to challenge people every day.

Scum never issued a single challenge.

If everyone just stepped back and WORKED with people instead of trying to be RAMBO and stop the scum from doing something with the mechanic, spirits would have been higher. Lynches would have been less compromise.

[Wisdom]

The main reason was apathy. When town are not motivated to do things, you cannot realize they are town, nor attempt to work with them.

And of course apathy also brings results like hammering because YOLO or challenging without thinking in lylo. Yeah, I realize I'm putting too much blame on Venmar when he isn't the only one to blame, but I believe that if those two things had not happened, we could have gotten the win.

[Majiffy]

Where's that scum QT. I just want to see paranoidMollie freak the fuck out.

[Amrun]

Like everyone was in such a hurry to challenge people every day.

Scum never issued a single challenge.

If everyone just stepped back and WORKED with people instead of trying to be RAMBO and stop the scum from doing something with the mechanic, spirits would have been higher. Lynches would have been less compromise.

You're so right.

Guess who saw that coming a mile away?

I triiiiiied to come up with a plan to combat this, but it was like rocket science getting people to follow it?! I still don't understand.

[Majiffy]

Scum never issued a single challenge.

This doesn't surprise me. Being the person that issued the first challenge; putting yourself on the chopping block as scum is a

bold

move attention-wise. Beyond that, you're limiting the choices for townies to vote to AT LEAST include one scum. Why? Makes no sense from a scum POV.

Best play for scum in this setup is let town eat itself. And that's what scum did, and that's why scum won.

What annoys me the most is that no one went after Mollie after I flipped town. The fuck. Guaranteed scum flip.

[Amrun]

Ahem, Majiffy. Ahem.

[Majiffy]

That being said I should have stuck with my early reads; Qwints' slot/AP/Mollie (although unrevealed at the time) were my main suspects.

Damn brain, always getting in the way of gut.

Qwints was probably the star of the game. His replace-in was phenomenal, and his play from there out was pretty good.

[Wisdom]

no one went after Mollie

wat

[Majiffy]

Amrun you were scummy and ignoring that fact is just blissful ignorance.

For Christ's sake you were on my balls about the early challenge - and mind you, and I called you town for doing so originally - but you wouldn't get off my balls. You needed to be gone for town's sake.