Mini 1482: Castle - A Mafia Murder So Vile (GAME OVER)


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Post Post #1000 (ISO) » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:29 pm

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In post 995, Mantisdreamz wrote:
In post 985, macmollie wrote:and om what do you make of wisdom's post 932 about serra? cos i find it pretty damning.
see.. this is what i don't get... yesterday you said tater is "scum scum scum"
why are you asking his opinion llike you think he is town??
that was mollie. i am mac.

i dont like hydra dissonance as much as the next man but me and mollie haven't got our heads together yet so im afraid you will just have to live with it for now.

the posting has all been me so far today though.
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Post Post #1001 (ISO) » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:30 pm

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i don't necessarily think Nat or tater HAVE to be scum though, because they're pushing on you (wisdom)
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Post Post #1002 (ISO) » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:31 pm

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In post 1000, macmollie wrote:
In post 995, Mantisdreamz wrote:
In post 985, macmollie wrote:and om what do you make of wisdom's post 932 about serra? cos i find it pretty damning.
see.. this is what i don't get... yesterday you said tater is "scum scum scum"
why are you asking his opinion llike you think he is town??
that was mollie. i am mac.

i dont like hydra dissonance as much as the next man but me and mollie haven't got our heads together yet so im afraid you will just have to live with it for now.

the posting has all been me so far today though.
i see...
it's looking a bit sus to me.
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Post Post #1003 (ISO) » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:31 pm

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macmollie is town, Mantis.
As I told you, you might be right about penguin, but can you let her aside and focus on what's happening here?
Do you think serra is town despite what I said? Do you think both tater and Natirasha are town despite their lining up my lynch yesterday and pushing it today?
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Post Post #1004 (ISO) » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:35 pm

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In post 1003, Wisdom wrote:macmollie is town, Mantis.
As I told you, you might be right about penguin, but can you let her aside and focus on what's happening here?
Do you think serra is town despite what I said? Do you think both tater and Natirasha are town despite their lining up my lynch yesterday and pushing it today?
i keep firm with what i said... why on earth would any scum (serra) offer to be lynched up??? doesn't matter about serra not wanting to vote Nat. the main thing is.. it's just to risky for a scum to offer to self vote. that's all there is to it.
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Post Post #1005 (ISO) » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:36 pm

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In post 1003, Wisdom wrote:macmollie is town, Mantis.
also.. ok. i go back and forth tho
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Post Post #1006 (ISO) » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:37 pm

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In post 946, Wisdom wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: tater

Thanks Mara for making this easier. This is not town-you. You would have figured I'm town and convinced Om, not the other way around.
terrible reasoning for this vote
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Post Post #1007 (ISO) » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:39 pm

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In post 1004, Mantisdreamz wrote:
In post 1003, Wisdom wrote:macmollie is town, Mantis.
As I told you, you might be right about penguin, but can you let her aside and focus on what's happening here?
Do you think serra is town despite what I said? Do you think both tater and Natirasha are town despite their lining up my lynch yesterday and pushing it today?
i keep firm with what i said... why on earth would any scum (serra) offer to be lynched up??? doesn't matter about serra not wanting to vote Nat. the main thing is.. it's just to risky for a scum to offer to self vote. that's all there is to it.
6 (SIX) hours before the deadline.

it was an effort to get people off his back, and it's worked on you. different story if it was 6 minutes or something.
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Post Post #1008 (ISO) » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:40 pm

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sooo.. then why aren't you pushing a serra lynch, if you mean what you say??
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Post Post #1009 (ISO) » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:40 pm

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instead you are pressuring wisdom who has been saying that serra is scum
do you think they are scum togehter???
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Post Post #1010 (ISO) » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:42 pm

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In post 1008, Mantisdreamz wrote:sooo.. then why aren't you pushing a serra lynch, if you mean what you say??
are you reading mantis? my vote is on serra, I'm asking for opinions about serra. but im also trying to figure out if im right about your neighbour being town, and wondering why he wont fucking work with me.

pedit no there is a quote where i say i think there is one scum in wis/serra. now im trying to figure out who it is.
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Post Post #1011 (ISO) » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:51 pm

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In post 1010, macmollie wrote:
In post 1008, Mantisdreamz wrote:sooo.. then why aren't you pushing a serra lynch, if you mean what you say??
are you reading mantis? my vote is on serra, I'm asking for opinions about serra. but im also trying to figure out if im right about your neighbour being town, and wondering why he wont fucking work with me.

pedit no there is a quote where i say i think there is one scum in wis/serra. now im trying to figure out who it is.
alright..
so you really think that serra escaped the lynch yesterday? you might have said.. but you can (again if you did) give any good reasons why you think serra is scum??
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Post Post #1012 (ISO) » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:55 pm

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In post 1011, Mantisdreamz wrote:
In post 1010, macmollie wrote:
In post 1008, Mantisdreamz wrote:sooo.. then why aren't you pushing a serra lynch, if you mean what you say??
are you reading mantis? my vote is on serra, I'm asking for opinions about serra. but im also trying to figure out if im right about your neighbour being town, and wondering why he wont fucking work with me.

pedit no there is a quote where i say i think there is one scum in wis/serra. now im trying to figure out who it is.
alright..
so you really think that serra escaped the lynch yesterday? you might have said.. but you can (again if you did) give any good reasons why you think serra is scum??
im leaning towards it. 932 is a perfectly good explanation as to why serra could be scum. yes it is wisdom's post but the point still stands.
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Post Post #1013 (ISO) » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:58 pm

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Beckett: Castle, come on. Let's go.
Castle: Are you kidding me? Do you see what she's wearing?
Beckett: Yeah. It's not that bad!
Castle: "Not that bad"? How am I going to un-see that?
Beckett:"I've worn worse"

2.01With eleven alive it will take six to lynch.

*macmollie -
*theslimer3 -
*Sweet Pertayter - Wisdom [1]
*thenewearth -
*Mantisdreamz -
*Wisdom - Natirasha, Sweet Pertayter [2]
*Serrapaladin - macmollie [1]
*Desperado -
*Bert -
*Natirasha -
*penguin_alien - Mantisdreamz [1]

Not Voting [6]: thenewearth, Serrapaladin, bert, penguin_alien, Theslimer3, Desperado


Chapter 2 Ends..Day 2 ends in (expired on 2013-09-05 03:00:00)


(There are no hints/clues in this flavor or in any flavor of the vote counts or death scenes. It's for entertainment purposes.)
Last edited by Malakittens on Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:59 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Post Post #1014 (ISO) » Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:00 am

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for example
you say here
In post 985, macmollie wrote:and om what do you make of wisdom's post 932 about serra? cos i find it pretty damning.
wisdom's post:
In post 932, Wisdom wrote:Anyone who townreads serra - fucking explain to me this.

serra states that he's willing to self-hammer over a no-lynch:
In post 577, serrapaladin wrote:No lynching at an odd number with likely 1 NK is just really bad. I'm just a VT (Javier Esposito), so I'll be sure to self-hammer if you guys can't get the votes together, and get back to playing more f2f instead.
That means he's willing to lynch someone who he knows town, the only one who he knows town, over a no-lynch. Good so far.

Then he refuses to vote Natirasha for a deadline lynch, which he supposedly does NOT know town. He tries to form wagons on anyone else, but when people vote Natirasha he goes "OMG NO DONT VOTE FOR NATIRASHA, ITS NO USE" and votes someone else instead. And then he and Natirasha form a wagon on havingfitz.

Tell me why the fuck would town-serra refuse to vote someone whose alignment he doesn't know when previously he was willing to vote himself in order to avoid the no-lynch. Go and read what happened and tell me why the fuck he would do it. See how he was talking about potentional mollie or Desp wagons, yet refused to vote Natirasha when Natirasha already had 4 votes on him. And then had no problem voting havingfitz either. Fucking explain how serra is town doing this.

so it sounds like you are on wisdom's side here. even to the point of asking OM to see if he agrees about how damning wisdom's case is.
it just looks like you're agreeing with him, so i don't get why you're now saying that it is one of either of them.
it looks really suspicious.
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Post Post #1015 (ISO) » Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:01 am

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In post 1012, macmollie wrote:
In post 1011, Mantisdreamz wrote:
In post 1010, macmollie wrote:
In post 1008, Mantisdreamz wrote:sooo.. then why aren't you pushing a serra lynch, if you mean what you say??
are you reading mantis? my vote is on serra, I'm asking for opinions about serra. but im also trying to figure out if im right about your neighbour being town, and wondering why he wont fucking work with me.

pedit no there is a quote where i say i think there is one scum in wis/serra. now im trying to figure out who it is.
alright..
so you really think that serra escaped the lynch yesterday? you might have said.. but you can (again if you did) give any good reasons why you think serra is scum??
im leaning towards it. 932 is a perfectly good explanation as to why serra could be scum. yes it is wisdom's post but the point still stands.
you have no reasons of your own?
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Post Post #1016 (ISO) » Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:07 am

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serra, please chime in
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Post Post #1017 (ISO) » Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:17 am

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In post 998, macmollie wrote:why dont you tell me what happened from your perspective and we'll see if our versions match up.
-Mantis wagon, serra and Natirasha both on it. Does not get a lynch.
-serra wagon. Looks like he will be the lynch.
-Natirasha does not wish to vote serra.
-serra has stated he will self-hammer if needed, to avoid a no-lynch.
-: Mantis starts a wagon on Natirasha. serra objects to it right away in . Tater joins the Natirasha wagon in the next post.
-Tater also tells serra to vote Natirasha.
-serra states he does not want to vote Natirasha () - Natirasha at 2 votes at this point.
-I vote Natirasha.
-Tater tells serra that he should vote someone instead of not voting.
-Lynx votes Natirasha (Natirasha at 4 votes, biggest wagon since Serra and Mantis are at 3 votes at this point)
-serra takes Tater's advice and votes... Desp. This looks like a joke given Desp has zero votes however..
-Natirasha immediately also votes Desp!
-I wtf and tell serra to vote Natirasha - wasn't he the one who was worried about the no-lynch? Why is he not voting the biggest wagon?
-He refuses, again!
-I state that I'm starting to scumread him there and explain why ()
-Natirasha attacks me right away and says that I have not been any better (wtf?)
-serra says his Desp vote was a joke, because we don't have a majority anyway so he has given up (bullshit, why does he not vote Natirasha and bring him to 5 votes? It would be better than doing nothing - and we're talking about serra, serra who wanted to self-hammer to prevent a no-lynch.)
-Mantis proposes a Fitz wagon. Fitz is at zero votes and the idea sounds crazy - we can't even get Natirasha lynched, who has 4 votes on him, and we'll get fitz with zero?
-Natirasha has no such problems though (I mean he even voted Desp ignoring serra was joking). He votes fitz and starts the wagon.
-I ignore the whole thing because it's ridiculous and once again tell serra to vote Natirasha ()
-What does serra do? Uses the newfound wagon that Natirasha just began and votes there.
-I'm starting to get mad and state that we don't have time for fitz - fitz is at 2 votes, Natirasha still at 4 ()
-serra responds to that by telling me that I also voted for a new wagon (Natirasha) - but is there any comparison? People were looking like they didn't want to lynch serra, the wagon was stalling for so much time, so we had to try something different. This was not the case with the Natirasha wagon, serra was the only one refusing to vote him, and we just needed two people to come online and hammer him after serra would vote him. These were my thoughts after reading - serra even dares to Caps Lock me as if he's saying something obvious.
-Natirasha instantly comes to his support, saying essentially the same thing.
-Mantis votes Fitz, ignoring this whole thing - I don't blame her though, the wagon was her idea, however crazy at the time, and she saw two votes on it.
- is the beginning of my outrage, further fueled by seeing Mantis oblivious to what's happening.
-Bert comes in and also says that I went for Nat, why am I not going for fitz? Which is a normal thought to a townie coming in and seeing this, without experiencing what serra and Natirasha had been doing. I tell him to vote Natirasha.
-Lynx comes and votes Fitz, normal for town just as Bert above. Besides Fitz is at 4 votes now, closest to lynch. Any townie who wants a lynch would vote him at his point.
-Bert votes Fitz, apparently ensuring himself that what I'm saying does not make much sense. As I said above, not blaming him. Fitz at 5 votes, need 2 more.
-Tater votes Fitz, but states that had Fitz as leaning town so not really happy with the lynch.
-I am stating that I am not going to vote Fitz. I have gotten so angry at this point that this shenanigan by serra and Natirasha worked and fitz is actually getting lynched, that I do not even remotely care about whether I scumread fitz or not. This was scum attempting something to save their asses and succeeding to me, and I was deadset that I would not be helping them. ()
-People react to this differently - Mantis tries to convince me to vote him because she thinks I'm acting stubborn for no reason; Natirasha and serra both laugh at me (of course), tater calls me scum, Bert just tries to get penguin to hammer because he knows how stubborn I can be. Mantis is also weirded out by the fact I was scumreading Fitz yet I refuse to hammer him, and I don't blame her - at that point though I was enraged by how she was oblivious to what was happening and told her that she cannot be this stupid ()
-Tater insists that I am scum and lines up a lynch on me (). Natirasha agrees.
-I restate that I am not going to vote Fitz after what serra and Natirasha did. I know penguin is around and that the lynch will happen anyway, we're not in danger of a no-lynch. But I still refuse to participate in helping scum achieve this lynch (). Mantis and Bert insist that I am being stubborn and try to convince me, but I insist in .
-penguin hammers.

-In a stroke of luck, fitz actually flips SK. Come to think of it, it's not that strange since he did look like scum, and I was right in scumreading him, but it changes nothing - serra and Natirasha pushed this lynch after refusing to vote each other. They didn't know they're lynching an SK, but they knew they're not lynching each other.

Summary of what I did, once again? I refused to help them achieve this thing. I got paranoid this is what's happening the moment serra refused to vote Natirasha and tried to vote others with no votes on them instead, despite claiming he would self-hammer earlier. And then by how they both voted Fitz once a townie - Mantis - voiced intent for such a lynch. I fucking understand nobody is in my mind and nobody was probably expected to understand where I was coming from, especially with the pressure of the deadline. But I will not fucking accept people scumreading me and pushing my lynch because of it
today
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Post Post #1018 (ISO) » Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:17 am

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: natirasha
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Post Post #1019 (ISO) » Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:27 am

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In post 1004, Mantisdreamz wrote:i keep firm with what i said... why on earth would any scum (serra) offer to be lynched up??? doesn't matter about serra not wanting to vote Nat. the main thing is.. it's just to risky for a scum to offer to self vote. that's all there is to it.
Why did I offer to lynch you in Less Pressure, Mantis? Why? Do you know what WIFOM is?
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Post Post #1020 (ISO) » Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:30 am

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And Mac I still wanna hear how you reached the conclusion that either me or serra is scum.
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Post Post #1021 (ISO) » Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:43 am

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And now that I reread the end of yesterday I think that Om's "let's lynch Wisdom tomorrow" is somewhat justified given he was already scumreading me before anything of those happened. My weird/paranoid behavior probably just ensured him he's right in his scumread and so he stated that. Natirasha is the one that agreed with it without any prior signs of a scumread on me IIRC, and he's also the one trying to enforce it today. He is the scum between them.

Mara's attitude DOES bug me though, but I am willing to accept she might just be apathetic (I've seen her being apathetic in her hydra games before) so she just sheeps Om's false read. Because otherwise, I am pretty fucking sure that Mara would be able to tell I am town if she cared enough.
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Post Post #1022 (ISO) » Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:42 am

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Yay lots to read
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Post Post #1023 (ISO) » Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:18 am

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Dw guys, I'll tell you what I think about the NK when I get out of class.
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Post Post #1024 (ISO) » Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:19 am

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We don't care about the nightkill. Vote Natirasha with me.
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