Mini 1482: Castle - A Mafia Murder So Vile (GAME OVER)

[Wisdom]

It's one game, but it's all I've played with you. Meta is just an extra though, my issue is you're doing nothing, you have a scumread yet you're not engaging him to figure him out and ensure that your read is right or change your mind, you only post to defend yourself, you're trying to self-meta... Yeah, I can't see you being town right now.

Can you explain the rest of your reads to me? Even the null ones.

[Desperado]

It's one game, but it's all I've played with you. Meta is just an extra though, 1)my issue is you're doing nothing, 2) you have a scumread yet you're not engaging him to figure him out and ensure that your read is right or change your mind, 3) you only post to defend yourself, 4) you're trying to self-meta... Yeah, I can't see you being town right now.

Can you explain the rest of your reads to me? 5)Even the null ones.

Let's take these one at a time.

1) That's your opinion.
2) Yes I am.
3) No I'm not. I've already refuted this one, do you need me to quote my posts that don't include me defending myself or are you just going to keep saying it like it's true?
4) No I'm not. I don't make lists. You and Bert are attempting to make that a scumtell when it is a playstyle tell, plain and simple.
5) Mantis, Penguin, Slimer lean town. SP, Bert, Serra lean scum. If Nat is scum, SP and Serra aren't which means one of the three lean towns is scum. Any more detail would be fabricated, which is why I don't feel compelled to make something up to satisfy you two.

[Wisdom]

Why would an explanation of why each player leans the way they do would be fabricated?

[Desperado]

Because I don't have anything to back them up beyond gut.

[Mantisdreamz]

okay I see it.

but why not?

also

@ mantis

I think I was unnecessarily harsh to you and I apologise.

I am just frustrated cos I am not understanding you in this game. at all.

it's fine.. but let's just stop saying stuff like 'terribad and weak play'! for now..

not sure how my play has been super weak. i don't have a lot of scum reads. and you kept saying that i was mixing stuff up... which, yes, last night i didn't realize that mac actually did have his vote on serra, when i asked him why he wasn't pushing serra's lynch.

i didn't get his agreeing with wisdom's case on serra, yet still finding wisdom scummy. you have to admit, that it was kind of weird.


what do we all think about Lynx?

[theslimer3]

I'll never get wifi for my pc -.-

I wanted to go back and see who had a townread on lynx, but noope .
So umm. What's going on guys

[serrapaladin]

5) Mantis, Penguin, Slimer lean town. SP, Bert, Serra lean scum. If Nat is scum, SP and Serra aren't which means one of the three lean towns is scum. Any more detail would be fabricated, which is why I don't feel compelled to make something up to satisfy you two.

Oh my...

[Wisdom]

Lynx died, Mantis.

[Mantisdreamz]

I think at this point we need to hear from Serra.

wanted to quote this as well. i totally agree.. instead of running circles around why he was not willing to vote you, he can explain further.
i still don't get why he'd offer to self vote as scum (yes wisdom, i read your post on one of these pages re WIFOM). but his posting at the time, just before deadline - didn't seem restricted, or awkward.. which is why i changed my mind about him being scum, at the time.

to be honest, after reading the last 10 pages of day 1 or so (after the fact), everyone who was posting then seemed kinda townish. i think what mollie said --- maybe looking at people who are not in the spotlight, might not be a bad idea at all.

ie thenewearth, (penguin to an extent)

xpost - shit.

[Wisdom]

Mantis, what do you think about serra/penguin/Desp? I'm feeling more and more this is accurate.

[Malakittens]

Kate: Okay, so you remember what happened after the bomb went off, but not before.
Bobby: It must have been one of those traumatic amnesia things.
Kate: Bobby. Don’t lie to me.
Bobby: I'm telling you, it was all a big blank. It was the trauma.
Kate: It was not the trauma. You don’t get to use that excuse.
Bobby: I swear, I don’t remember.
Kate: The hell you don’t remember. Do you wanna know trauma? I was shot in the chest, and I remember every second of it. And so do you.
(Castle is watching from the observation room.)
Castle: All this time. You remembered?

2.10

With eleven alive it will take six to lynch.

*macmollie -
*theslimer3 - bert [1]
*Sweet Pertayter - macmollie [1]
*thenewearth - Natirasha, penguin_alien, Sweet Pertayter [3]
*Mantisdreamz -
*Wisdom -
*Serrapaladin - Wisdom [1]
*Desperado -
*Bert -
*Natirasha - Desperado [1]
*penguin_alien - Mantisdreamz [1]

Not Voting [3]: thenewearth, Serrapaladin, Theslimer3

Chapter 2 Ends..

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2013-09-05 03:00:00)

(There are no hints/clues in this flavor or in any flavor of the vote counts or death scenes. It's for entertainment purposes.)

[macmollie]

I am saying terribad and wis is calling it weak play.

last night is not the only time you have not followed along with the convo. I have been pointing it out all game.

and no, what mac did was not weird, it called following a suspect when you think they are bussing and that is what he was doing you really should have learned this from raven.

tell me what do YOU think about lynx?

[Mantisdreamz]

Mantis, what do you think about serra/penguin/Desp? I'm feeling more and more this is accurate.

i'll look at Desp again, and then say. and i want to read some of penguin's latest (longish posts)
and want to see more of what serra says.

[macmollie]

I think at this point we need to hear from Serra.

wanted to quote this as well. i totally agree.. instead of running circles around why he was not willing to vote you, he can explain further.
i still don't get why he'd offer to self vote as scum (yes wisdom, i read your post on one of these pages re WIFOM). but his posting at the time, just before deadline - didn't seem restricted, or awkward.. which is why i changed my mind about him being scum, at the time.

to be honest, after reading the last 10 pages of day 1 or so (after the fact), everyone who was posting then seemed kinda townish. i think what mollie said --- maybe looking at people who are not in the spotlight, might not be a bad idea at all.

ie thenewearth, (penguin to an extent)

xpost - shit.

so what about d2?

[Mantisdreamz]

I am saying terribad and wis is calling it weak play.

last night is not the only time you have not followed along with the convo. I have been pointing it out all game.

and no, what mac did was not weird, it called following a suspect when you think they are bussing and that is what he was doing you really should have learned this from raven.

tell me what do YOU think about lynx?

lynx is dead, mollie :p


ya well, i've been reading the thread as i can. remember how i used to get fosed for my schedule before?

[Mantisdreamz]

I think at this point we need to hear from Serra.

wanted to quote this as well. i totally agree.. instead of running circles around why he was not willing to vote you, he can explain further.
i still don't get why he'd offer to self vote as scum (yes wisdom, i read your post on one of these pages re WIFOM). but his posting at the time, just before deadline - didn't seem restricted, or awkward.. which is why i changed my mind about him being scum, at the time.

to be honest, after reading the last 10 pages of day 1 or so (after the fact), everyone who was posting then seemed kinda townish. i think what mollie said --- maybe looking at people who are not in the spotlight, might not be a bad idea at all.

ie thenewearth, (penguin to an extent)

xpost - shit.

so what about d2?

i brought up the last 10 pages of day 1 specfically, because those pages moved very quickly. no one who was there at the time, was really holding back or staying out of the spotlight

[theslimer3]

I am saying terribad and wis is calling it weak play.

last night is not the only time you have not followed along with the convo. I have been pointing it out all game.

and no, what mac did was not weird, it called following a suspect when you think they are bussing and that is what he was doing you really should have learned this from raven.

tell me what do YOU think about lynx?

Lynx barely posted ...

The fact that she was nked still puzzles me

[Wisdom]

slimer why do you focus so much on the Lynx kill?
What are your reads?

[serrapaladin]

Is anyone willing to lynch slimer today? I'll read this tomorrow.

[theslimer3]

Idk I believe nks tell more about the scums reads than of anyone else's .

And can I get back to you on those reads?

[Mantisdreamz]

Mantis, what do you think about serra/penguin/Desp? I'm feeling more and more this is accurate.

well this does stand out a bit

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p5193473
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p5193481

^those 2 posts. and then:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p5193496

stating that she is null.

[Mantisdreamz]

fuck

[Mantisdreamz]

please ignore post 1270

*must not get things mixed up* *repeat*

[Desperado]

Mantis, what do you think about serra/penguin/Desp? I'm feeling more and more this is accurate.

well this does stand out a bit

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p5193473
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p5193481

^those 2 posts. and then:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p5193496

stating that she is null.

The first two posts refer to TNE. The third refers to Nat.

[macmollie]

I am saying terribad and wis is calling it weak play.

last night is not the only time you have not followed along with the convo. I have been pointing it out all game.

and no, what mac did was not weird, it called following a suspect when you think they are bussing and that is what he was doing you really should have learned this from raven.

tell me what do YOU think about lynx?

lynx is dead, mollie :p


ya well, i've been reading the thread as i can. remember how i used to get fosed for my schedule before?

I knew lynx was dead are you seriously trying to pawn off that you must be town cos oops you didn't know that.

jesus christ you have done this before as scum but unfortunately you have done this as town too.

and no one is fosing you for your schedule.