Mini 1482: Castle - A Mafia Murder So Vile (GAME OVER)

[Wisdom]

serra and Desp are scum, Bert. Replace tne and slimer with them.

[Bert]

Yeah, I need to work on how to find associative tells (or whatever they're called). Don't really know how to do that. :/

OK, TNE/SlimerDesp/Peng...

and if you and mollie insist, then I'll get behind a Serra lynch :/ but not really happy about it

[Bert]

EBWOP: I mean, You all have played with Serra-scum and I haven't. Gut keeps saying Serra is town lmao

Anyways, my scum pool (when you all aren't insisting on Serra) <TNE, Slimer, Desp, Peng>

And Serra is a wild-card because I do value you two's opinions

[Desperado]

Because I cannot see how the fuck serra would do that as town.

Then, by this logic, why am I scum?

serra was okay with almost any wagon - Mantis, macmollie, Desperado, havingfitz - but not yours. If he is scum, why specifically not want your wagon but want anyone else's?

Because I cannot see how the fuck serra would do that as town.

Then, by this logic, why am I scum?

serra was okay with almost any wagon - Mantis, macmollie, Desperado, havingfitz - but not yours. If he is scum, why specifically not want your wagon but want anyone else's?

Perhaps he thought I was gullible(I had been on his side since his first post) and having a townie in your pocket is good?

Bleh. I have to admit that's not a bad answer.

Wisdom do you have any other comments on my Nat case beyond it being terribad? And are all bad cases made by scum?

[Desperado]

Didn't mean to post those quotes but since they're there, can you also take some more about how Serra and Nat went from scumbuddies to Scum + Town and why you think Nat is town?

[Wisdom]

No, town make bad cases too. The thing is you're not going after anyone else and you're continuing doing nothing.

[Wisdom]

Bert, if serra is town, explain 932 to me.

[macmollie]

Okay, you're wrong.

like how I was wrong about gm in monks and masons?

macmollie, you're probably not getting me this game because for the most of it, i've had a scum read on you.
anyway, kinda think you probably are town, esp with all the back and forth in recent pages.

that is not why I am not getting I am not getting you cos you jump to a retarded conclusion like you just did and honestly think I should think that you are town for it.

you are in the unsure pile for now but jesus christ plz fucking pay attention to the game it is like you are not even reading it.

[Wisdom]

like how I was wrong about gm in monks and masons?

no, like how you were wrong about a zillion people in gonzo.

[Desperado]

No, town make bad cases too. The thing is you're not going after anyone else and you're continuing doing nothing.

You keep saying this, and I keep disagreeing. How is what we are talking about right now "doing nothing?"

[macmollie]

Is anyone willing to lynch slimer today? I'll read this tomorrow.

We await your entrance, cuz you're under the heated blanket of suspicion <3

I had him as an early scumread but mac is pretty convinced he is town.

I defer to mac cos he has really good gut instincts.

*shrug* Since when do you ever defer?

most of the time unless it is d1 then I bitch and moan until I get my way if I have scum in my crosshairs

[Malakittens]

Castle:And it happened backstage, right upstairs. They were stealing a moment together, which was dangerous, because she was Dempsey’s girl. As they stared into each other’s eyes, Kate’s heart quickened...
Kate: Did you just say Kate? Are you picturing the PI as you and me as the ganster’s moll?
Castle:What? No. and I didn’t say Kate, I said fate. Fate’s heart quickened. I was being poetic.

2.12

With eleven alive it will take six to lynch.

*macmollie -
*theslimer3 - bert [1]
*Sweet Pertayter - macmollie [1]
*thenewearth - Natirasha, penguin_alien, Sweet Pertayter [3]
*Mantisdreamz -
*Wisdom -
*Serrapaladin - Wisdom [1]
*Desperado -
*Bert -
*Natirasha - Desperado [1]
*penguin_alien - Mantisdreamz [1]

Not Voting [3]: thenewearth, Serrapaladin, Theslimer3

Chapter 2 Ends..

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2013-09-05 03:00:00)

(There are no hints/clues in this flavor or in any flavor of the vote counts or death scenes. It's for entertainment purposes.)

I'm going to be V/LA until Monday. Equinox has all access if he needs to take over. I'll try and get in touch on Saturday to see if I have net access.

[macmollie]

like how I was wrong about gm in monks and masons?

no, like how you were wrong about a zillion people in gonzo.

you mean that game where I caught scum fate on d2 through an investigation and had kuror as scum since d1?

wow, what a great example.

if you want the god's honest truth majiffy should have replaced me out of that game cos I was locked into a position where I had made a promise to never vote buldey in a post game discussion at tr. <-----mine and buldey's friendship pretty much got wrecked over a series of games. that majiffy did not replace either of us out is why I had such a hard time. and buldey took full advantage of it.

you don't want to fuck with me over this wis, there is a bunch of shit that you don't know and you are seriously starting to piss me off.

[theslimer3]

Yeah you can wait.

OH HI GUYS I'M SLIMER,

"I like to keep people hanging with my reads, because I feel like it, and also I like to ask people about their fuckery"

"I'm bussing, Bert?" = (in Slimer's euphemistic way of expressing him/herself) "What kind of fuckery is that?"

And then I keep waiting...

waiting...



You make me laugh, lmao, now stop messing with me and give your reads of fuckery

Have you gone bonkers?

[Wisdom]

i dont care mollie. penguin is scum here. and so is serra and Desp. So sort out your other reads and realize I'm right already.

[theslimer3]

And wisdom everyone seems to think I might be scum but you. What gives you such an insight?

[Wisdom]

"everyone" is an exaggeration. Like 2-3 people do.
You don't look like scum to me, your rebuttals to accusations on you on D1 were good.
Besides you were mislynch fodder for serra.

[Mantisdreamz]

Glad i could be of brief entertainment value bert :p

i was thinking slimer seemed kinda towny as well...going back to end of day 1

[Bert]

Anyone who townreads serra - fucking explain to me this.

serra states that he's willing to self-hammer over a no-lynch:

No lynching at an odd number with likely 1 NK is just really bad. I'm just a VT (Javier Esposito), so I'll be sure to self-hammer if you guys can't get the votes together, and get back to playing more f2f instead.

That means he's willing to lynch someone who he knows town, the only one who he knows town, over a no-lynch. Good so far.

Then he refuses to vote Natirasha for a deadline lynch, which he supposedly does NOT know town.

He tries to form wagons on anyone else, but when people vote Natirasha he goes "OMG NO DONT VOTE FOR NATIRASHA, ITS NO USE" and votes someone else instead. And then he and Natirasha form a wagon on havingfitz.

Tell me why the fuck would town-serra refuse to vote someone whose alignment he doesn't know when previously he was willing to vote himself in order to avoid the no-lynch. Go and read what happened and tell me why the fuck he would do it. See how he was talking about potentional mollie or Desp wagons, yet refused to vote Natirasha when Natirasha already had 4 votes on him. And then had no problem voting havingfitz either.

Fucking explain how serra is town doing this.

OK, pulled 932 back from the gallows. But Natirasha wasn't near a lynch....she/he had a choice of which person to push, and Natirasha wasn't likely because Natirasha was one of the 6-7 people present. Fitz wasn't here, so reaching a lynch on Fitz was more likely than Nat. Plus Serra preferred a null-scum read over a townread?

I think Serra's blacklisting comment was worse than #932.

you don't want to fuck with me over this wis, there is a bunch of shit that you don't know and you are seriously starting to piss me off.

^says the person who claims not to be hostile in this game

[Wisdom]

But Natirasha wasn't near a lynch

Natirasha was at 4 votes, biggest wagon at the time.

[Bert]

Have you gone bonkers?

Oh save it. Just go ahead and ask me if I'm on drugs, while you're at it (which I'm not). Is that the best response you have to my prodding you for reads? Still waiting for your reads... <3

And wisdom everyone seems to think I might be scum but you. What gives you such an insight?

whoa, shit just got real...

But Natirasha wasn't near a lynch

Natirasha was at 4 votes, biggest wagon at the time.

But if everyone present went for Natirasha, the lynch was less likely to reach than fitz, because then we lose Nat's support on his/her own wagon, whereas Nat gets to add a +1 vote on fitz's wagon. We weren't sure how many people were there. But yes, it's obvious that Serra did not want to lynch Nat if she/he could help it because she/he had other people she/he would rather lynch than Nat at the time

Idk just not following you on this point wizzy

[Wisdom]

fitz had 0 votes, Bert. Try to see things as they happened.

[serrapaladin]

Wis is tunnelling on me again, huh?

I'm sorry to keep you guys waiting, but I'm catching up now.

[macmollie]

UNVOTE: tater thing

mac and I are talking.

[serrapaladin]

Anyone who townreads serra - fucking explain to me this.

serra states that he's willing to self-hammer over a no-lynch:

No lynching at an odd number with likely 1 NK is just really bad. I'm just a VT (Javier Esposito), so I'll be sure to self-hammer if you guys can't get the votes together, and get back to playing more f2f instead.

That means he's willing to lynch someone who he knows town, the only one who he knows town, over a no-lynch. Good so far.

Then he refuses to vote Natirasha for a deadline lynch, which he supposedly does NOT know town. He tries to form wagons on anyone else, but when people vote Natirasha he goes "OMG NO DONT VOTE FOR NATIRASHA, ITS NO USE" and votes someone else instead. And then he and Natirasha form a wagon on havingfitz.

Tell me why the fuck would town-serra refuse to vote someone whose alignment he doesn't know when previously he was willing to vote himself in order to avoid the no-lynch. Go and read what happened and tell me why the fuck he would do it. See how he was talking about potentional mollie or Desp wagons, yet refused to vote Natirasha when Natirasha already had 4 votes on him. And then had no problem voting havingfitz either. Fucking explain how serra is town doing this.

So this is the big case for scum-me you've been banging on about? This is really quite a shit argument. Most basically, my lynch order went me<Nati<everyone else, but let me let these quotes show you why you're a complete moron instead.

seriously serra?

Vote Natirasha ffs

I'd really much rather not.

We don't have fucking time for fitz

YOU STARTED VOTING NATI LIKE 10 FUCKING MINUTES AGO

he is possible

How is there no time for fitz he's had some accusations and consideration of being voted for the past several days. Nat's wagon also just started, what we don't have time for is debating whether or not there's time. Either get it done or don't. Like so:

VOTE: havingfitz

WHAT FUCKING PART OF THERES NO TIME FOR FITZ DO YOU ALL NOT GET

Jesus fuck chill out how is there time for Nat and not fitz?

Fitz is not here and thus does not comprise one of us, leaving our maximum firepower at 7 votes

Nat is here; thus our total firepower on him/her is 6

If this is seriously the sort of argument Wis will tunnel on for 15 or so pages, I really don't know what else to say... I think one of us needs to go today, so scum can stop hiding in the noise of Wisdom shouting at people for not agreeing with his terrible case.