Mini 1482: Castle - A Mafia Murder So Vile (GAME OVER)

[Wisdom]

wisdom, the case on serra is not really great. it only involves him not wanting to vote for Nat, and somehow thinking he escaped the lynch.

who - at the time, i was against lynching, as well

. so it wasn't like it was all him sneakily bypassing his way out of it.

YOU STARTED THE WAGON ON NATIRASHA, how the fuck were you against lynching him?

[Wisdom]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Mantis

Fuck this. I'm starting to think serra is actually town and people are just WKing him. I cannot comprehend people's failure to scumread serra otherwise.

[Wisdom]

Mantis/desp/{penguin/tne}

[Malakittens]

Castle: (To Beckett) A girl wearing a red outfit in the middle of the woods, claw marks on her face. Am I the only one who is seeing this? (Beckett is puzzled) She is Little Red Riding Hood.
Beckett: (Sarcastically) Great, I'll call an APB on the Big Bad Wolf.
Castle: You have a better theory? (Ryan suddenly calls Beckett from far)
Beckett: Ryan, I want you to see if any animal here can cause these marks.
Ryan: Like a wolf? A Big Bad one?
Beckett: Really?

2.14

With eleven alive it will take six to lynch.

*macmollie -
*theslimer3 - bert [1]
*Sweet Pertayter -
*thenewearth - Natirasha, penguin_alien, Sweet Pertayter [3]
*Mantisdreamz - Wisdom [1]
*Wisdom -
*Serrapaladin -
*Desperado - Serrapaladin, Mantisdreamz [2]
*Bert -
*Natirasha - Desperado [1]
*penguin_alien -

Not Voting [3]: thenewearth, Theslimer3, macmollie

Chapter 2 Ends..

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2013-09-05 03:00:00)

(There are no hints/clues in this flavor or in any flavor of the vote counts or death scenes. It's for entertainment purposes.)

[macmollie]

because i believe that serra & nat are town. and i'm in a way, sheeping serra's vote on him. but at the same time, not really having a town or scum read of desp. plus, i think this lynch will go through over penguin (who i would prefer first, i think).

I can't put into words how bad this is.
mollie, I admit I haven't seen her saying something so retarded as town, have you?

I accept your apology.

wis I feel your pain. she has been saying and doing shit like this

all freaking game

I have seen her derp as town but words can not even describe what I am seeing here.

[macmollie]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Mantis

Fuck this. I'm starting to think serra is actually town and people are just WKing him. I cannot comprehend people's failure to scumread serra otherwise.

we are not town reading sera. I want that tater thing's take on sera before we jump all over him.

I am very on board with a mantis lynch.

VOTE: mantis

[Bert]

I'm starting to think serra is actually town and people are just WKing him. I cannot comprehend people's failure to scumread serra otherwise.

What the...

You're willing to stop tunneling someone you've tunneled all day spanning back to the later stages of D1?



I SEEN IT ALL, I can't believe my eyes

By golly, I SEEN IT ALL

[Wisdom]

I've seen both happening - either I'm fucking right about serra and nobody listens to me (see Malakittens in monks and masons) or I'm terribly wrong and scum are WKing serra.
I was confident it's the former but Mantis is so fucking weird that I am thinking it's the latter with Mantis WKing serra.

[Bert]

I think mantis is messing with us and this is all a ruse, does anyone else feel that way

still can't get over the "OH Lynx is dead?? REALLY?" schtick

LMAO

this is just the whipped cream on top of a fruit cake, baby

if the newb pass can't be trusted, then is there such thing as a derp pass

[Wisdom]

She's not THIS derpy as town.

[Bert]

slimer still waiting for your reads

Yeah you can wait.

ohey, slimer, would you like to join us please

I've seen both happening -

either I'm fucking right about serra and nobody listens to me

(see Malakittens in monks and masons) or I'm terribly wrong and scum are WKing serra.
I was confident it's the former but Mantis is so fucking weird that I am thinking it's the latter with Mantis WKing serra.

Hey I consolidated votes to get on the Mala train with you, but it never picked up, and then after you died, it went to L-1 and then it died down for good, and then N2 notscience and I died and no one was left to push a Mala train again.

Oh wait, that sounds like the Serra train hahahaha crap. but Mala was mostly bad gut feelings for me, and a really really sketchy comment explaining her read on me.

She's not THIS derpy as town.

Speaking of which, CONSOLIDATION is the word of the day

Mantis, you gon get serious now or else

OR ELSE



VOTE: Mantis

[Wisdom]

Oh wait, that sounds like the Serra train

No shit. And when serra wins this game like Mala did I will fucking flip a table over.

[Bert]

Spoiler:

Anyone who townreads serra - fucking explain to me this.

serra states that he's willing to self-hammer over a no-lynch:

No lynching at an odd number with likely 1 NK is just really bad. I'm just a VT (Javier Esposito), so I'll be sure to self-hammer if you guys can't get the votes together, and get back to playing more f2f instead.

That means he's willing to lynch someone who he knows town, the only one who he knows town, over a no-lynch. Good so far.

Then he refuses to vote Natirasha for a deadline lynch, which he supposedly does NOT know town. He tries to form wagons on anyone else, but when people vote Natirasha he goes "OMG NO DONT VOTE FOR NATIRASHA, ITS NO USE" and votes someone else instead. And then he and Natirasha form a wagon on havingfitz.

Tell me why the fuck would town-serra refuse to vote someone whose alignment he doesn't know when previously he was willing to vote himself in order to avoid the no-lynch. Go and read what happened and tell me why the fuck he would do it. See how he was talking about potentional mollie or Desp wagons, yet refused to vote Natirasha when Natirasha already had 4 votes on him. And then had no problem voting havingfitz either. Fucking explain how serra is town doing this.

liking serra for scum, mainly cos of wisdom's 932.

you express an intent to self vote maybe 30minutes before a deadline? not 6/7 hours. serra was trying to get people off his back by making it look like he wouldnt settle for a no lynch, when in fact he wouldn't vote his buddy nat.

there's scum in {serra/wis} im sure of it. leaning serra atm.

Dangit, 932 isn't bad to me. *shrug* I feel like I'm missing something. :/

so in your world nats and tater seekritly plotted to get you lynched on d2 despite nobody really supporting it on d1 and 1 of them is town. nats and sera then decide to buddy each other and not vote each other and both dive onto a wagon whom neither know whether fitz would flip sk or not.

and sera's wanting to lynch himself 6 hours before the lynch happened means he had a pre-cog as to when that would happen and time it perfectly so that he would not get lynched but oh yeah he was saving his buddy nats and they conspired together to...avoid lynching each other and get you lynched on d2.

it makes sense if I was wearing a tinfoil hat.

VOTE: wisdom

If you agreed with Wisdom that 932 was bad, and as means for thinking serra is scum, why did you vote Wisdom at the beginning of D2 when you already said you agreed with Wisdom's case on 932 on Serra?

Dafuq

[macmollie]

it is called 2 different heads you dummy

[Desperado]

She's not THIS derpy as town.

Do you have some examples of Mantis being this derpy as scum?

[Desperado]

I'm starting to think serra is actually town and people are just WKing him. I cannot comprehend people's failure to scumread serra otherwise.

What the...

You're willing to stop tunneling someone you've tunneled all day spanning back to the later stages of D1?



I SEEN IT ALL, I can't believe my eyes

By golly, I SEEN IT ALL

What was the purpose of this post Bert?

Do you have an opinion on what Wisdom did or what?

[Wisdom]

No, I haven't seen her being this derpy at all.

[Wisdom]

I mean, she is derpy sometimes as town but not to this point.

[Desperado]

I'm not really following you. It doesn't seem like you have a good baseline for Mantis' derp level. And if this level of derpiness is above and beyond anything you've ever seen, why does her extreme derpiness = scum and not null?

[Wisdom]

Because she's WKing serra. I do not get how town are so adamant on serra being town when he's fucking obvscum.

[macmollie]

She's not THIS derpy as town.

Do you have some examples of Mantis being this derpy as scum?

I have examples of mantis being this hedgey as scum

I have an arsenal of at least 60 which ones do you want.

[Desperado]

What about Nat, then? She's been just as open about her townread on Serra.

[Desperado]

She's not THIS derpy as town.

Do you have some examples of Mantis being this derpy as scum?

I have examples of mantis being this hedgey as scum

I have an arsenal of at least 60 which ones do you want.

The 3 best examples that include both of you in them. Mantis' "You aren't getting my this game because I've been scumreading you...but you're probably town now" stuck out to me.

[Desperado]

She's not THIS derpy as town.

Do you have some examples of Mantis being this derpy as scum?

I have examples of mantis being this hedgey as scum

I have an arsenal of at least 60 which ones do you want.

The 3 best examples that include both of you in them. Mantis' "You aren't getting my this game because I've been scumreading you...but you're probably town now" stuck out to me.

[Bert]

What was the purpose of this post Bert?

Do you have an opinion on what Wisdom did or what?

I was chiding Wisdom to see what he would say about letting go of Serra for a moment. I mean, I was expecting him to tunnel Serra to death or die trying, especially with Mollie (or Mac?) agreeing about the Serra read. And actually he just might go back to Serra shortly lmao it wouldn't surprsie me

Wisdom's pretty town, if that's what you mean. His play pisses me off sometimes, like at the end of D1 with the "HELL NO, I'm not willing to vote anyone but Serra," but I know how to cope with it. His reads don't feel weird

If you're expecting him to stop shouting at people and tunneling, then um that's not gonna happen

my gut tells me that Wisdom is town, and I just got out of a game where I was fooled by Wisdom-scum. Like to the point where I didn't suspect him at all. But he wasn't shouting at people like this, hell no, he was playing much more passively IMO. *shrug* Feel free to disagree.