Newbie 1419 - GAME OVER

[Nachomamma8]

Who let me nacho and bert be town together again

gotta love it when random number gods fuck scum's shit up before the game is already started

[Bert]

Who let me nacho and bert be town together again

our time may be limited this time if Nacho is indeed town

I haven't had enough re-reads of this game to have a concrete opinion of Nacho yet, but I trust your read so far because I believe you to be town

Nacho, Micro 213 was a good learning experience for me so thanks. Maki's paranoia and kcda (who I dismissed too easily) stick out - and from reading this game, I bet there is a reason you read JK as scum here but not in 213

This is actually my first newbie on Bert since my first and second games (both involving Nacho - 1229 and 1361).

[Amrun]

VC 1.10

(4) phokdapolees - Verbs, Nachomamma8, Bert, notscience

(2) Verbs - phokdapolees, Shiidaji
(1) Bert - Brian Skies


With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Not Voting: Flammus, Titus

V/LA:

Deadline: Tuesday, August 27, 12pm EDT

Spoiler: Vote History

phokdapolees

SXTLHGaiden

- notscience > mail-mi > Verbs

Shiidaji

Medoner

- mail-mi > unvote > Verbs

Verbs

- Titus > SXTLHGaiden

Flammus

mail-mi

- mail-mi > unvote

Brian Skies

advocatus

- Medoner > unvote > mail-mi > JKMatthews

Bert

JKMatthews

- mail-mi > Titus > Brian Skies > Verbs > Titus > phokdapolees

Titus

- JKMatthews > notscience > Verbs > unvote > Shiidaji

notscience

- Nachomamma8 > Titus > Nachomamma8 > Bert > Titus > phokdapolees

Nachomamma8

- Verbs > JKMatthews > phokdapolees

If you spot any mistakes, please let me know.

[Nachomamma8]

I bet there is a reason you read JK as scum here but not in 213

yeah.
JKM's play here was different from his play in earlygame 213, but similar to his play in lylo right before he replaced out. so i was left in a bit of a predicament before you came in the thread.

[notscience]

Bert you should read him because I don't know what to look for in scumnacho

[Nachomamma8]

surviving to Day 3 in a newbie game is generally a pretty reliable tell if i seem to be playing decently.

[Brian Skies]

You know...I was totally ready to vote Phok after post #338 (not a bw vote, mind you). And then when I get ready to post my vote and reasoning, I find the post stream has exploded midway into page 15. Thank god for post preview protection.

[Brian Skies]

Oh, and you guys totally missed me freaking out cuz I thot I hammered an L-1.

[notscience]

bahahahaha

[Nachomamma8]

Oh, and you guys totally missed me freaking out cuz I thot I hammered an L-1.

i'm sort of sad you didn't post this for entertainment value alone

[Bert]

surviving to Day 3 in a newbie game is generally a pretty reliable tell if i seem to be playing decently.

Yup.

I bet there is a reason you read JK as scum here but not in 213

yeah.
JKM's play here was different from his play in earlygame 213, but similar to his play in lylo right before he replaced out. so i was left in a bit of a predicament before you came in the thread.

That's really odd...

Yeah, JKM's early play in D1 was a little weird and I didn't like him - late D1 near deadline liked him a lot - D2 I dismissed him as town, and then D3 his play was wayyyyyyy scum lol

Bert you should read him because I don't know what to look for in scumnacho

Not great at reading him myself. I'd say just look for his motives on D2 and see if they feel natural.

[Brian Skies]

Anyhow, here is my reasoning behind my Phok hammer that (thankfully) didn't happen. Well, yet, at least.

1) The previous slot-holder, lettersGaiden, has a ton of posts, but almost no content. They are mostly prod dodges, random votes, and "what u thinking" based questions. Nothing really beneficial for the town. It could just be her not knowing how to deal with other players taking the lead. But considering how she won her first game as scum, this concerns me (and I've expressed this before). And I wouldn't put it past her to utilize the same strategy.
2) The current slot-holder has done almost nothing since replacing into the game. Sure he posted his initial reads, but his untimely temporary leave so close to lynch day and so soon after his initiation into the village has prevented him from making a strong case as a townie. Step it up if you really are town, please.
3) It's prejudice, I know. But I really don't like his username. It irritates me, especially since I appreciate cops. (This doesn't actually have any real weight in my read; but in all seriousness, I loathe that name.)

Also, despite my original suspicions of JKM, I'm starting to lean more towards town on the slot since Bert's arrival.

[Bert]

(con't):

Second re-read done. GUT READS (EMPHASIS ON 'GUT') as in a big beer GUT

Shiidaji moves from leaning town to null

Nacho moves from TBD to town - seems to be 'enjoying' IC-ing, and that part with Brian screams genuine

verbs moves from null to town

Titus - I would like to see Titus eat rope UGHHHHHHH lack of committing to forceful reads is gettign to me. Holy shit both games I've replaced in with you in them, you are scum and notscience is town. Holy....

Spoiler:

JK...... <3

Why did you have to be the one I replaced - my reads are on par with yours and I hate the same posts by Titus that you did. You hit the nail on the head, JK. Lack of commitment to reads by Titus. Ditto. Ditto. Darnit.

EWWWWWWWWW

UNVOTE:

I want to see this play out. JKM or Verbs both look scummy right now. Yet, their posts suggest they are unlikely a scum team together. JKM seems to be carelessly reading (giving the benefit of the doubt he wasn't pushing for an MM replacement fast lynch but misread) and strongly pushing lynches on Day 1 in the early stage. We have plenty to pressure with but lynch no.

Verbs seems to have scum motivation in his posts as previously discussed. Yet, he seems afraid to OMGUS.

The last few posts suggest they are not a scum team together though, at least that's my read.

@JKM, Really, you cannot see town motivation behind analyzing players early? If you didn't want MM lynched, like you claimed, then you just immediately turned your attention to the first player to post content and attacked. That doesn't make much sense either.

@Verbs, explain now please.

I am committed to being observant. I took a position but I generally do not play recklessly. The further Verbs responds to the arguments, the further I am to figure out which is scum.

No. OMGUS is spotted and discredited. Fearing of OMGUS suggests scum as they are focused more of appearances than actual substance. Yet was poor word choice due to fatigue.

The more I get into this game and the more I talk with y'all, the better I'll be able to start going back and forth with you, but we're short on time (unfortunately). So gut reads is all you have to get from me for now.

[Bert]

EBWOP: I hate the excuse "I'm fearful of playing recklessly," which is along the lines of what Titus is implying.

That is just a terrible excuse for having to watch things play out and sit in the backseat and get some popcorn and watch a movie. We will not allow that. Never eva eva.

1) The previous slot-holder, lettersGaiden, has a ton of posts, but almost no content. They are mostly prod dodges, random votes, and "what u thinking" based questions. Nothing really beneficial for the town. It could just be her not knowing how to deal with other players taking the lead. But considering how she won her first game as scum, this concerns me (and I've expressed this before). And I wouldn't put it past her to utilize the same strategy.

Oh hi Brian! Yes, I see you have done research on Gaiden. Me too. Too bad we can't share our thoughts - at least it might not be prudent - we don't have much time remaining until it looks like Phok is gonna eat rope (unless we swing a flash wagon lol).

VOTE: Titus

Gun to your head. Is this scum Titus that we saw in 513 Nightless? How sure are you compared to Phok? I'm willing to swing over to Titus if you're all on board.

@Nacho

Who's the scum team right now for you? In case you fly out into the sunset, we need to win it for you but also be mindful of people sheeping your reads for ill-advised reasons

[Nachomamma8]

@Nacho Who's the scum team right now for you? In case you fly out into the sunset, we need to win it for you but also be mindful of people sheeping your reads for ill-advised reasons

titus and fuckthepolice

[Brian Skies]

A bit of a hypo read for Nacho in case she bites the dust, eh? I like that you suggested it because I was thinking about it too.

[Brian Skies]

Loool, I like how you post how it's supposed to be read, and not the actual way it's written.

[Brian Skies]

Almost laughed as hard as when I read the vote on Bert right after post #325.

[Titus]

@Nacho Who's the scum team right now for you? In case you fly out into the sunset, we need to win it for you but also be mindful of people sheeping your reads for ill-advised reasons

titus and fuckthepolice

I'm not sure who fuckthepolice is but if you only knew me offline, you'd know how much I disdain the police.

Since it's close to the deadline, intent to hammer.

[Nachomamma8]

the person you're declaring intent to hammer on is fuckthepolice (phokdapolees).
on a related note, i'm glad that this playerlist has a healthy amount of disdain for the authorities.

[Titus]

I am thinking this guy is an epicly bad newbie but it seems like it's him or no lynch. This doesn't read newbie scum though. I will hammer when I leave to go to bed. I won't be back before then and we need a day 1 lynch.

[Nachomamma8]

I am thinking this guy is an epicly bad newbie but it seems like it's him or no lynch. This doesn't read newbie scum though. I will hammer when I leave to go to bed. I won't be back before then and we need a day 1 lynch.

Bert isn't scum. Give me a scumteam that you can believe in with that knowledge in mind.

[Bert]

Unvote

I will hammer later. Titus you can put your lynch -1 vote in and I'll hammer when I wake up.

Also Nacho are you sure you wanna go with Phok or...

Notscience, same question

[Nachomamma8]

hell yeah i'm pretty fucking down with this lynch don't you ruin it for me

[Nachomamma8]

don't you dare bert