Mini 1482: Castle - A Mafia Murder So Vile (GAME OVER)

[Malakittens]

{flavor
Mornin}

2.25

with eleven alive it will take six to lynch.

*macmollie -
*Huntress -
*Sweet Pertayter -
*thenewearth - penguin_alien [1]
*Mantisdreamz - macmollie [1]
*Wisdom - Desperado [1]
*Serrapaladin -
*Desperado - Serrapaladin [1]
*Bert -
*Natirasha -
*penguin_alien - Wisdom, Mantisdreamz, Natirasha, Sweet Pertayter, bert [5] [L-1]

Not Voting [2]: thenewearth, Huntress

Chapter 2 Ends..

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2013-09-05 03:00:00)

(There are no hints/clues in this flavor or in any flavor of the vote counts or death scenes. It's for entertainment purposes.)

[serrapaladin]

I am not quite sure you could look any scummier if you tried.

<3

I think I've gotten my Micro balanced (well more or less), and I have enough flavour for about the next month, so I'll be able to focus on this tomorrow. If I don't come up with a wall or two by tomorrow, someone hit me. But really, if we could just agree on lynching desp and slimer, I'd be pretty happy with this game.

pedit: another one? really?

[Bert]

Unvote

in case the replacement decides to quickhammer

[macmollie]

Mollie you're being a hypocrite - u said you are gonna think about hammering peng after a claim

And then you say based on NKA (really???) that you don't think Peng is scum

Seriously...

And you shoulda told me constructively early on about what I'm doing badly...you're pretty hostile (heck, you hydra with Majiffy for chrissakes) so why'd you hold back your complaints for so long

I can't vote mantis without wisdom yelling at me. I'm stuck at a crossroads

And for the record, you're making 514 sound like your reads were soooooooo much better than wis's. wisdom got like 3/4 of the scumteam right in the dead qt

my reads were better than wis's. i had 3 out of 4 scum picked out in the game thread.

and I am not being a hypocrite with what I said, I am waffling on penny. <-------that is waffling which is normal in a mafia game, that is not hypocrisy.

but anyways, I am sorry if you felt that I was mean to you. wis makes me insane.

the gif were just a bit too much. mebbe every third or fourth post?

nacho loves you and has threatened me with bodiy harm if I hurt you. do you know I think would help? is if we hydra-ed together. then I could learn a little about you and you could learn a little about me. okay?

wis I will read your post later you are just too all over my nerves right now.

[penguin_alien]

Yeah, not claiming. Not when the whole case is Wisdom saying this isn't my town game just because I won't anoint him town for derp-tunneling. And last time I claimed early, namely before a hammer intent (see /in-vitational 12: claimed early to try to be helpful to town, got lynched anyways) it was completely pointless.

I'm willing to see what thenewearth's replacement does.

UNVOTE: thenewearth

Bert, where are you getting Mantis as scum aside from supposed derp? She claimed

Richard Castle

---not likely scum there.

Nat, you said:

Little as I like Nat's (presumably pretending to be) flipping a coin to vote between me and Desperado, followed by vaguely telling Wisdom that he'd better be right, it's the only anti-town thing I've seen from him recently. So Nat, do you think he's right on either of his reads, or are you just pretending to go along with him so if he gets me lynched and is shown to be wrong, you have a reason to push him?

Yes, 100% the second one. Go reread our discussion at the beginning of the day. I came to the conclusion Wisdom's head is in the right place. I have been busy with the beginning of the semester this weekend, hadn't put too much thought into the game. So I decided to trust Wisdom here and move on.

So the second one, you're prepping to string up Wisdom for my mislynch. Uh-huh.

VOTE: Natirasha

I hate Sweet Pertayter's jump too, but I think he still looks better than Nat.

Desperado, why is thenewearth so firmly town since page three, irrespective of anything since then?

[Wisdom]

itt scum whining for being caught for the wrong reasons
someone needs to hammer

[penguin_alien]

No, town annoyed at lazy people glomping on to a vanity wagon.

[50 Shades of Purple]

itt mollie blatantly lies about past games.
1) I changed my mind about goodmorning and constantly had Mala, goodmorning and at least one of the lurkers (Cirno/TIP) in my scumteam prediction. My only mistakes were Mara and Sakura, which nobody can deny that were super scummy (evident by the fact they got lynched).
2) TIP only replaced in and posted in the end of the day, when I never got to post. How the fuck did I ignore him when I never saw him posting?
3) You never said anything inthread about Mara being town.
4) All this bullshit is useless. I am once again right in my scumreads in this game, with serra being my mistake like Sakura was in that game. All this drama about who is stubborn and who is right is useless.

1. I just saw where you had finally put gm in your scum pile. I apologise for that. towards the end of that day round I knew mara was town and that town had lost control of the game and were probably going to lose.
2. i asked tippy 4 times for his reads. he was around and he did post a little bit but stfu when I started pressuring him. you probably missed cos the saki/sakura spam show. it all got buried.
3. I am trying to work with my hydra partners so that there is less dissonance in case you haven't noticed. the only exception is my hydra with majiffy cos he is impossible. I needed nacho on board first and I just couldn't get him there.
4. do you know what would be useful? is if you would work with me.

let's talk about the nk. lynx was an odd choice and I pegged her as vt. most players don't pick up special tells on d1 anyways and nks are usually done to draw suspicion on a player. I know mantis thinks this way, I have been scum more times with her than you have even played with her.

@ penny

I don't think we should assume that the flavour will match their alignment or that scum have not been given safeclaims.

[macmollie]

itt mollie blatantly lies about past games.
1) I changed my mind about goodmorning and constantly had Mala, goodmorning and at least one of the lurkers (Cirno/TIP) in my scumteam prediction. My only mistakes were Mara and Sakura, which nobody can deny that were super scummy (evident by the fact they got lynched).
2) TIP only replaced in and posted in the end of the day, when I never got to post. How the fuck did I ignore him when I never saw him posting?
3) You never said anything inthread about Mara being town.
4) All this bullshit is useless. I am once again right in my scumreads in this game, with serra being my mistake like Sakura was in that game. All this drama about who is stubborn and who is right is useless.

1. I just saw where you had finally put gm in your scum pile. I apologise for that. towards the end of that day round I knew mara was town and that town had lost control of the game and were probably going to lose.
2. i asked tippy 4 times for his reads. he was around and he did post a little bit but stfu when I started pressuring him. you probably missed cos the saki/sakura spam show. it all got buried.
3. I am trying to work with my hydra partners so that there is less dissonance in case you haven't noticed. the only exception is my hydra with majiffy cos he is impossible. I needed nacho on board first and I just couldn't get him there.
4. do you know what would be useful? is if you would work with me.

let's talk about the nk. lynx was an odd choice and I pegged her as vt. most players don't pick up special tells on d1 anyways and nks are usually done to draw suspicion on a player. I know mantis thinks this way, I have been scum more times with her than you have even played with her.

@ penny

I don't think we should assume that the flavour will match their alignment or that scum have not been given safeclaims.

me

[Bert]

But really, if we could just agree on lynching desp and slimer, I'd be pretty happy with this game.

You've posted little substance today, so it's no surprise there's little traction on either of those people

do you know I think would help? is if we hydra-ed together. then I could learn a little about you and you could learn a little about me. okay?

Sounds good. <333333

1. I just saw where you had finally put gm in your scum pile.

To be fair, Wisdom had GM as town until either Mollie or Nacho (whoever was posting on 50) kept telling Wisdom to reconsider GM again and again.

Bert, where are you getting Mantis as scum aside from supposed derp? She claimed Richard Castle---not likely scum there.

claim name not alignment indicative? I've never watched Castle tbh

but anyways, I am sorry if you felt that I was mean to you. wis makes me insane.

You weren't being mean. I was overreacting. I'm learning to cope with Wisdom, and the same vice versa because I pissed Wisdom off majorly in 514 too

[penguin_alien]

To mollie and Bert: Richard Castle is the protagonist. Yes, even when he's skeevily hitting on Beckett in the pilot. I get that fakeclaims could be in play, but I have yet to play in a theme game where the protag is a fakeclaim. I don't 100% discount it, but it would take a much stronger case than anything you've made to make me even condone lynching Mantis.

[Wisdom]

Lynx suspected slimer, you(mollie) and Desperado.
If the scumteam is what I think it is, that'd mean she had 2/3 right. Pretty good reason to be killed.

[macmollie]

ITT MACMOLLIE PRESENT: THE COPING WITH WISDOM CLUB

Do you often find yourself wanting to strangle wisdom or smother him in his sleeps (unfortunately he rarely sleeps. am mildy suspicious he is a actually a vampire who can walk in daylight and doesn't need it)?

Do you have fantasies of supergluing his fingers to the keyboard right after he concedes a point?

Then maybe this club is for you!

Accepting sign-ups now:

1. macmollie

[macmollie]

wisdom I am just trying to tease you and bring a little lightness to the situ.

[Bert]

As far as re-evaluting Wisdom goes, he's not really responding to any points that I'm making, so he's just repeating the same poor arguments over and over. Previous Wisdom tunnels I've witnessed have involved him responding more to other people's points, and I'm not getting that from him here.

How is Wisdom not responding more to other people's points in this game? I don't get it.

So Mantis and Wisdom are neighbors. Mantis claimed first as Richard Castle, and Wisdom claimed second as Alexis Castle. This is so blatantly town-town character-wise, I'm not sure why they'd be neighbors and not masons. (Richard and Martha, OTOH...) Which is the only thing making me uneasy: if Wisdom fake-claimed something he figured would look super-town with Mantis's claim.

wow you are defending Mantis hard based on his flavor/claim

and you still have Wisdom as possible scum after his claim (Alexis Castle), but Mantis as town

/in ITT MACMOLLIE PRESENT: THE COPING WITH WISDOM CLUB

[Wisdom]

Hope you have enough room in that club because people will come swarming

[macmollie]

To mollie and Bert: Richard Castle is the protagonist. Yes, even when he's skeevily hitting on Beckett in the pilot. I get that fakeclaims could be in play, but I have yet to play in a theme game where the protag is a fakeclaim. I don't 100% discount it, but it would take a much stronger case than anything you've made to make me even condone lynching Mantis.

here is 1!

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=29483

reck claimed rob stark which got him to endgame where he won.

[macmollie]

Hope you have enough room in that club because people will come swarming

and I feel like I can breathe a bit and try to have fun in this game.

I can't read slimer but he made a couple of posts that looked vaguely like there

might

have been some townish motivation in his posts. desp I don't know kind of seems town I think. desp is 1 of my mafia loves and when I town read him I like to work with him and his reach outs feel more town than scum. so I don't know about that being the reason for the lynx nk but mebbe.

I get my best reads on d1 and I wasn't able to get a lot of info cos I spent a good portion of the day playing on the defensive.

I have I done any recent whining about that tater thing cos I kind of wanna do that again.

[Wisdom]

I don't know about Tater. Om I just don't know and don't really like, and Mara has just seemed apathetic for the most part. In the few posts she did care and made I thought I got town vibes. But I'm not that good at reading Mara anyway.

I'm thinking slimer over Tater though because I don't think Tater makes much sense with the other two (again thinking as if we have the two flips, I know, but I'm feeling like they're both confscum so can't help it). however, slimer said something about wanting to go see who Lynx suspected, which is weird given Lynx actually suspected slimer and it makes me doubt that he's scum.

I don't know how you see Desp town. If he's town he's really really apathetic about the game - he doesn't do anything, he sheeps people, his cases are really weak.. I don't think I can see that as town. Town-Desp I had seen was active, constantly trying to read people.. basically the exact opposite of what I'm seeing here.

[Sweet Pertayter]

Om I just don't know and don't really like,

I don't like you either but if you're willing to shut up more often then feel free to work with me here

~Om

[Bert]

read mara as town on d1

didn't care enough to read Om because I don't even know him/her

they/he/she hasnt/havent done much D2 either other than go after Wisdom a bit, then name a few scumreads (TNE, Slimer, Desp)

Mara is pretty apathetic, is she overgamed or what

I gave up on trying to analyze stuff ages ago'

Please reach out to us <333333333333333333333333333

you're supposed to help us finish our unfinished business from 514 <3333

[Bert]

EBWOP: I'll shut up more often if that helps you all too

Think I've been more harm than help tbh, don't lie

[Sweet Pertayter]

Mara basically gave up because people were spamming too much and I'm kinda apathetic too because of the same reasons.
If people wanna ask me questions I'll be fine answering though.

Those scumreads are Mara's btw. Right now I'm not liking Mantis, Wisdom and Serra (I don't think they could all be the scumteam together, however).
In fact I should probably move the vote back.
VOTE: Mantis

~Om

[Bert]

Om I just don't know and don't really like,

I don't like you either

but if you're willing to shut up more often then feel free to work with me here

~Om

Mara basically gave up because people were spamming too much and I'm kinda apathetic too because of the same reasons.
If people wanna ask me questions I'll be fine answering though.

Those scumreads are Mara's btw.

Right now I'm not liking Mantis, Wisdom and Serra

(I don't think they could all be the scumteam together, however).
In fact I should probably move the vote back.
VOTE: Mantis

~Om

Why Wisdom...

it has nothing to do with not liking him right?

[Sweet Pertayter]

We only gave him a chance to see if he could work with other people and he's failed to do so.

~Om