League of Legends (Old)

[CF Riot]

Guess I'll play ranked now.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Teamplay!

Solo queue doesn't give anyone a real chance if they're not already in gold.

I wonder what the victorious teamcomp will be after season 5.

[Nikanor]

Solo queue doesn't give anyone a real chance if they're not already in gold.

Yeah man, Elo Hell is such a bitch! Fucking noob silver 5 feeders are everywhere. "Teammates"? More like "OTHER TEAM's mates" AM I RIGHT???

[JDodge]

Damn you guys must be some next level supps. I see supps die all the time while warding/clearing wards (I should know as I hunt them down from mid pretty often; they ain't getting away from my Akali or TF).

nah, im by all accounts a terrible player because im mechanically complete garbage, i just have excellent game knowledge (i occasionally do color casting, my last actual gig brought me significant acclaim with some people with special note given to my skills at teamfight analysis) and occasionally fill in support for scrims for plat teams i know

the reason i say if youre dying while de-warding you shouldnt be playing support is because you dont understand how map vision works; you should try playing adc, i hear they dont have to watch their minimap cause theyre farming

Teamplay!

Solo queue doesn't give anyone a real chance if they're not already in gold.

I wonder what the victorious teamcomp will be after season 5.

finally someone who understands

[Brandi]

Nikanor is the best

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Nikanor, the way you advance reliably in solo queue is by carrying a mostly deadweight team. And if you're good enough to carry that well, why aren't you already in gold?

Maybe you can make a spurt from silver 1 or high silver 2, but below that you don't really stand a chance of getting to gold through solo queue in time.

It's not like "OMG I MUST HAVE SKIN I WILL SUDDENLY BE GOLD STANDARD PLAYER."

Seriously though, no team I've played ranked with (my best is silver 5 though) on EUW has managed to play defensively ever, regardless of the amount of champions alive, kills on each team, teamfights lost, etc.

[RayFrost]

Siveure.

I played almost purely support in ranked, and I started off in silver 2 after coming back from a like 6 month break. From there I dropped to silver 5 (because I got carried in placements so fucking hard). I worked my way back up rather consistently in an almost straight path to gold. All while playing sona/leona/etc and the occasional (but rare) mid/top when someone actually wanted support.

I can honestly say that I only rarely had to "carry a deadweight team." And by that I mean I had to be the shot caller for my team because people were bad at decision making but good mechanically / my

adc

marksman wasn't as good as their's so I had to make all the plays to win lane.

Of course, some losses did happen (d/c, ragequit, afk, trolling, etc), but more than 60% of my games had respectable teammates. And I spent over 200 games in silver.

After hitting gold, I've experienced more teammates that are of the painfully game-throwingly arrogant and self-assured variety. I

miss

silver.

That said, I duoq'd with JD last night. We went 1-2. Our one win?

Everyone on the team was a support main. We worked out who went where and it was a stoooooomp.

Suck it panzer, support es best. <3

[DeathRowKitty]

Interesting. Perhaps thinking your teammates suck is a sign of being where you belong.

[TheButtonmen]

Interesting. Perhaps thinking your teammates suck is a sign of being where you belong.

I suspect this is accurate.

[Glork]

I expect a base level of competency in my teammates. If they are sufficiently competent, I can make plays that I otherwise wouldn't even attempt. If they're incompetent, they're probably going to do their best to throw the game anyway. I don't find assuming-my-teammates-are-shit to be helpful. I have to assume that if I'm coming in for a gank or looking to initiate a teamfight, they'll go when I ping. Otherwise you just piss away opportunities to make plays to win.

So far it's served me well. In less than 40 ranked games, I've gone from S5 to S3. I've also noticed that I tend to lose games where I make negative assumptions about my teammates.

Not sure if I'm going to make a mad dash for Gold. Honestly, I don't think I'd make it, but I'll probably play ranked games at a quicker pace than what I've been doing for the last couple of months.

[PJ.]

Interesting. Perhaps thinking your teammates suck is a sign of being where you belong.

I suspect this is accurate.

It definitely isn't. I just carried a smurf account from 750 elo to 1350 elo, and my teammates pretty much sucked every game, sometimes they happened to be a smidge better than the opposite team.

Also, Yes, there are games that can't be carried. Yes they are few and far between, but it's actually true.

I expect a base level of competency in my teammates. If they are sufficiently competent, I can make plays that I otherwise wouldn't even attempt. If they're incompetent, they're probably going to do their best to throw the game anyway. I don't find assuming-my-teammates-are-shit to be helpful. I have to assume that if I'm coming in for a gank or looking to initiate a teamfight, they'll go when I ping. Otherwise you just piss away opportunities to make plays to win.

So far it's served me well. In less than 40 ranked games, I've gone from S5 to S3. I've also noticed that I tend to lose games where I make negative assumptions about my teammates.

Not sure if I'm going to make a mad dash for Gold. Honestly, I don't think I'd make it, but I'll probably play ranked games at a quicker pace than what I've been doing for the last couple of months.

Assuming my teammates are bad in sub-1400 play saves my life more often than not. I ping and ping and go in, and if my guy doesn't move I get out instead of fighting to the death to just watch the laner ignore me. You have to go in but you have to know when to give it up too. Bulldogging it and then blaming your teammate who was doing the wrong is silly, because you can see your teammate do the wrong thing and get out a majority of the time, right?

[PJ.]

Nikanor, the way you advance reliably in solo queue is by carrying a mostly deadweight team. And if you're good enough to carry that well, why aren't you already in gold?

Maybe you can make a spurt from silver 1 or high silver 2, but below that you don't really stand a chance of getting to gold through solo queue in time.

It's not like "OMG I MUST HAVE SKIN I WILL SUDDENLY BE GOLD STANDARD PLAYER."

Seriously though, no team I've played ranked with (my best is silver 5 though) on EUW has managed to play defensively ever, regardless of the amount of champions alive, kills on each team, teamfights lost, etc.

I'm probably gonna make it on two accounts, and one is at silver 4 right now.

Nikanor will definitely make it and decay down 2 or 3 times before end of season.

I can help teach you how carry. I'm only Gold 5 but i'm positive I can make you a better player before halloween.


Also, am I the only one disappointed that it's Elise?

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Nikanor, the way you advance reliably in solo queue is by carrying a mostly deadweight team. And if you're good enough to carry that well, why aren't you already in gold?

Maybe you can make a spurt from silver 1 or high silver 2, but below that you don't really stand a chance of getting to gold through solo queue in time.

It's not like "OMG I MUST HAVE SKIN I WILL SUDDENLY BE GOLD STANDARD PLAYER."

Seriously though, no team I've played ranked with (my best is silver 5 though) on EUW has managed to play defensively ever, regardless of the amount of champions alive, kills on each team, teamfights lost, etc.

I'm probably gonna make it on two accounts, and one is at silver 4 right now.

Nikanor will definitely make it and decay down 2 or 3 times before end of season.

I can help teach you how carry. I'm only Gold 5 but i'm positive I can make you a better player before halloween.


Also, am I the only one disappointed that it's Elise?

If your offering tips on how to carry I'm listening.

[CF Riot]

Woo, made it through promos in 1 night. 0 afks, 0 trolls. What are the odds?

[mykonian]

I've been playing a couple of times with a bronze-x friend, and on the average level we get at then, Rayfrost is correct. Most people get their champs, but when they get out of lane they don't have a clue what to do with it. If me and my brother want to "turn it on" despite just having fun with said friend, we aren't doing anything different mechanically. My brother is a support main, Rayfrost but a little worse, probably. Anyway, you see the difference between the teams we play against then and my brother, it's the pings he makes and the vision he gets that make the difference. Doesn't matter if your buddies are silver five, with information to make the right calls, you can get quite far.

If there's nobody on your team doing this (and generally it should be the support, maybe the jungler early on, maybe the main tank), maybe you have to. Just make sure your calls work.

[Brandi]

Woo, made it through promos in 1 night. 0 afks, 0 trolls. What are the odds?

Congrats man good luck for gold <3

Lotta gold+ and Plat+ scummers now

[PJ.]

Nikanor, the way you advance reliably in solo queue is by carrying a mostly deadweight team. And if you're good enough to carry that well, why aren't you already in gold?

Maybe you can make a spurt from silver 1 or high silver 2, but below that you don't really stand a chance of getting to gold through solo queue in time.

It's not like "OMG I MUST HAVE SKIN I WILL SUDDENLY BE GOLD STANDARD PLAYER."

Seriously though, no team I've played ranked with (my best is silver 5 though) on EUW has managed to play defensively ever, regardless of the amount of champions alive, kills on each team, teamfights lost, etc.

I'm probably gonna make it on two accounts, and one is at silver 4 right now.

Nikanor will definitely make it and decay down 2 or 3 times before end of season.

I can help teach you how carry. I'm only Gold 5 but i'm positive I can make you a better player before halloween.


Also, am I the only one disappointed that it's Elise?

If your offering tips on how to carry I'm listening.

I'll stream for a little bit tomorrow. 1200 to about 1400 is literally the hardest part on the ladder. Harder then anything below 1200 for sure. And quite a bit harder then 1500-1600(which is where my ability currently maxs out). It's the worst behaved group of players I've seen, between being bad mannered and having over inflated egos(even I was more egotistical at 1200 then i was am now believe it or not), and besides that a lot of people are running gimmicky but powerful stuff(full ad rune pagetryndamere) that you can get hustled by if you aren't paying attention. That happens to be where I'm at in my stream(and where I believe a lot of scummers are stuck at). I'll try to do my best to show people how to get out of it.

http://www.twitch.tv/audiotsunami

Unfortunately, all my previous videos have been time-deleted by twitch.tv

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Figured something can help me out. I trashed my mmr and now starting to get out of the hole I dug. I have learned that some teams can get when you direct them as a shot caller and others there is no helping.

But I have noticed since I started watching my wins and losses after each game I feel myself getting better and it's nice to see a % get higher

[Ankamius]

Getting a skin without having the champion will unlock the champion.

[Ankamius]

Also do you have to end the season in gold+ or is it sufficient to have reached it this season?

If the former, then I'm way too lazy to go back and get my ranking back into gold.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I think you need to end in Gold.

[BROseidon]

You need to end there.

Also, yeah, at low elos it's few and far between that you can't hard carry. However, I will say that it's true that you can often be at your true MMR while thinking everyone else is worse than you, because Dunning-Krueger+people being good/bad at different aspects of the game (and thus cueing in on different things). This effect weakens as you get better (ie, I am good enough that I can generally recognize my mistakes)

[FakeGod]

woah

My ELO decay has finally dropped me into silver.

It shows that anything's possible with patience.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

people being good/bad at different aspects of the game (and thus cueing in on different things).

Yeah this.

[PJ.]

http://www.twitch.tv/audiotsunami

Game time.