Mini 1489 - VisCon: Murder at Wingate Mansion [Game Over]

[Ms Marangal]

Strange how you are still looking for anything to make people look worse, without getting yourself to involved yet, people are reading you as town for a melt-down that is fantastically null

[Ms Marangal]

that was to Generic

[Bert]

EBWOP: I'm also very nervous about hitting scum D1 because I don't know which strong player (who is town) is going to die tonight, as his/her days are numbered and I want to have a good scumlynch to show for it.

P-edit: Hi Mara I love you you are town in this game don't ever change <3

love, Bert

[Desperado]

Marble: Can you put some effort into your case on me and highlight which posts beyond 222 look like scum posts and what my scum approach is? I've been ignoring your FOS because it never progressed beyond a flat "he's scum," but it's difficult to defend myself against vague/generic accusations. Re: 222, why is it somewhat scummy" to have asked Tammy about her reads?

Nacho: Whenever you decide you want to get scum today I'm keeping your seat on the Shoe wagon warm. He's still scum and I can't believe we're letting him get away with it. I'm not surprised that mutley disappeared again as soon as the pressure was off his slot.

[Generic]

I enjoy the chaos more than the 'love in' bert that's for sure. But I get what you mean with head vs gut, I just get a little bemused when you then blow kisses in nachos direction and ask him to tell you who to vote for.

If I'm honest I love your attacks analytically, hate your buddy buddying. But what do I know:

[Empire]

Prod dodge, been battling insomnia (and losing), game's at a standstill for me at the moment until we get the new replacement. I should have something more substantial tomorrow.

@mod: Would it be at all possible for us to get a deadline extension due to the replacements please?

[FakeGod]

@mod: Would it be at all possible for us to get a deadline extension due to the replacements please?

If a replacement is not found by the deadline, the day 1 will be extended until one is found.

If the player replacing in wants an extension, it will be granted.

Otherwise, no changes will be made to the deadline.

[Llamarble]

unvote

vote llamarble

Why don't you form your own opinion on me rather than wait for someone who clearly hasn't got a clue to give you the answer.

I did. I found it dubious that Mara felt differently. Pay attention, mr whinyface.

[Llamarble]

Bad lynches:
Llamarble
Empire
Tammy

Probably bad but it's been awhile
Generic
Bert
Garantula

???:
Nacho
Mara
Kuribo
PB
Shoe

Solid options:
Desperado
Shadoweh

I'll try and make time tomorrow for sorting out the ??s.

[Llamarble]

Meh, even Shadoweh and Desperado aren't defscum.

[Llamarble]

Huh, Garantula is actually worthy of lynch-consideration. I'll revisit him tomorrow when I'm less tired but yeah, why'd we all townread him again?

[Llamarble]

TheGarantula

's coming across like solid noobtown to me. I really liked #32, immediately spotting something weird in Nacho's play due to experience with him is something I think newer players are far more likely to do as town. I like how takes a bit of an against-the-grain stance in #129 in the Generic/Marangal back-and-forth by townreading Generic/scumreading Marangal yet still made the effort to try and see what everyone else was seeing, as I find newer scum players often try to take the path of least resistance when it comes to major in thread issues. I like him coming forward admitting that he has no solid reads yet in #315 as scum (especially newer scum) tend to try and fake more definitive stances because that's usually seen as the more stereotypically pro-town thing to do.

Well first off "A is playing different from how he did in game X" is an honest comment scum can make, and consequently not really that uncommon from scum.
Eh fine the other two are pretty solid reasons / good moves if he's scum.

[Llamarble]

So Desperado's posts are fakeable and he places a scummily high priority on keeping track of everyone else's reads.
His votes work from scum, though voting both Gaiden and Shoe hits his buddylist.
He doesn't work awesomely well as a buddy for Shadoweh either, so I just plain don't have enough scumreads to try and associate people.

And Bert still looked town too, leaving me not sure what's going on here.

[Llamarble]

VoteCount 1.9

kuribo [5]: Empire, Desperado, Tammy, The Purple Shoe, Generic
Bert [1]: Shadoweh
Desperado [1]: Llamarble
The Purple Shoe [2]: Nachomamma8, Bert
PeaceBringer [1]: TheGarantula

Not Voting [3] - kuribo, PeaceBringer, Ms Marangal

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch

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Deadline is August 30, 2013, at 11:00 AM PST.
Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2013-08-30 13:00:00)

VoteCount 1.11

kuribo [1]: The Purple Shoe
Bert [1]: Shadoweh
Desperado [1]: Llamarble
The Purple Shoe [6]: Nachomamma8, Bert, kuribo, Tammy, Desperado, PeaceBringer
PeaceBringer [1]: TheGarantula
Shadoweh [1]: Ms Marangal

Not Voting [2] - Empire, Generic

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch

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Deadline is August 30, 2013, at 11:00 AM PST.
Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2013-08-30 13:00:00)

Hard to believe we quickwagoned scum without me Empire or Generic, so that bodes well for Shoe.
And non-well for Desperado / Peacebringer; I feel like one of those two was an 'ok we can actually make this be the d1 mislynch' vote.

Checked in on Generic again because I wanted to check my logic on shoe:

Tried to come back to this and try, even though its a chore just to read it let alone analyse it. But clearly whatever I write is going to be called scummy, so fuck it.

'I am not having as much fun as I normally do scumhunting' is difficult to fake.

If I ever flip scum having gone off the cliff like I have in this game empire it's the day I give up playing.

I assume there's nothing to suggest an intention to give up playing anyway out there which would make this less town?
Barring that, he remains pretty town.

[Llamarble]

Guys I think I remembered how to think aloud!
But now I really need to go to bed. I wonder how dumb I'll think I was tomorrow afternoon...

[inte]

slowly but surely page 15 or something

[inte]

aite tammys scum

[inte]

so many ppl wallin an shit

[Shadoweh]

Huh, Garantula is actually worthy of lynch-consideration. I'll revisit him tomorrow when I'm less tired but yeah, why'd we all townread him again?

Something something early good posts something I'd feel really insecure if Garant turned out to be scum. He's pretty authentically weird, if that makes sense. Then again I'm banging against the same wall you keep hitting about too many people looking town everywhere so..

[Generic]

unvote

Decent input llamarble. Inte, what's brought you to that conclusion in tammy? She was t even on my radar so I'm intrigued.

[Bert]

He doesn't work awesomely well as a buddy for Shadoweh either, so I just plain don't have enough scumreads to try and associate people.

And Bert still looked town too,

leaving me not sure what's going on here.

you're lazy or scum

[Llamarble]

I had to go to sleep before feeling I'd solved the problem? At least I'm voting something that makes some sense.

I'm not accustomed to putting someone with a Bert-level of scumhunting energy on my scumlist D1.

Maybe it's Shadoweh Peacebringer and Nacho?

[Llamarble]

BTW Shadoweh if you like the idea of scum internal monologue in a thread, it was pretty cool when Fate did that in multiple personality mafia (while in his miller personality phase).
Mara would have to be faking strong convictions, and that 'we'll all be masons once we off a neighborhood scum' line. So she isn't a great candidate either.

[Tammy]

I'm still catching up (on my phone, will finish later tonight) but just wanted to say one thing: Tammy, the flavor in my role PM doesn't tell me that Albert is town, it's just that there's a lot of it about how he's a friend who listens to my character's bullshit stories about travelling and about how I invited him to this Mansion. In fact, there's probably more about him than there is about my character, though I'd have to re-check my role PM when I get back home. There just seems to be a heavy implication that the role is town.

What did you think about kuribo's rage in this game and the replace out. In that I'm wondering if you think it's alignment indicative, not asking to gossip :p

[Tammy]

Or maybe there are none, with the assumption that we'll start lynching neighbour members out of paranoia. Or the neighbourhoods were completely random and using them as lynching reasons is the same as rolling three 13-sided dice randomly and picking those people to lynch. Granted that wouldn't be much different from regular Day 1's but still.

*goes and checks my dice collection*

I have no 13-sided dice.

I feel cheated.

*pout*