Xenogears Mafia (Game Over)

[notscience]

NACHO WHERE ARE YOUR CAPS

[Mutleyddmc]

Can someone help me figure out what the rational behind a saki kill is, it bugs me.

vig kill obv.

I killed him cos he is a little shit

[Nachomamma8]

"I scumread her enough at the start to vote her but now think she might be town but let me distance more."

and i seemed to vote her for most of the day despite you who didn't end up voting her or talking to her except for quickhammer?

hell i called her leaning town but i kept my vote on her and pretty clearly pushed her over andrius in that whole dichotomy, so you're arguing that i protected her but that's a pretty shitty protection job dont ya think?

[Nachomamma8]

oh and let's not forget how many people called me scum w/andy because i wasn't pushing him and pushing for Rach "easy mislynch" Marie instead.

BUT NO ITS DISTANCING AND PROTECTING ALL AT ONCE

[Nachomamma8]

oh and B&B is scum on the other end for NOT being on the Rach wagon
because that totally makes sense right

[notscience]

THANKS FOR THE CAPS NACHO

MUTT WHERE ARE YOURS

[Trust Fund]

HEY BRO STOP IGNORING THIS YOU READ CAPSLOCK RITE

Bro, you should have gotten a notice that something about you has changed last night. This is important for clearing you, please confirm.

[BROseidon]

Nacho: Refer to above image. I'm thinking 50-65% chance.

The main issue I'm having is that I read through everything last night, and it felt like you were not pushing for Rach nearly as hard as town-you normally would. The fact that you townread her early stuck with me MORE than the fact that you were on the wagon and supporting it in the end; I attribute the Rach push to Muffin/Thez/Desp. Not to you.

That's not what I'd expect from you.

There's also the whole issue of your interactions with Venmar, who had disgusting interactions with Rach.

Maybe a Venmar lynch first would be good...

Naw still want Mala's head on a platter. Nhammen's first post pinged and Mala's done jack to alleviate that since then.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

here are your interactions with rach + the hammer vote

And there are plenty of other players with whom I've had that level of interaction. I went V/LA and then didn't bother catching up for most of the dayphase. I only hammered because I didn't trust that it'd get done before the deadline, and lynching town is still better than a NL.

pedit: HOLY FUCK I SAID I THINK ONE OF YOU IS SCUM. YOU MADE A GOOD CASE AGAINST HIM, BUT THE CONTEXT OF THAT CASE (BEING COUNTER TO THE RACH WAGON) MAKES ME EYE IT SUSPICIOUSLY. YOU WOULD KNOW HER ALIGNMENT IF YOU'RE HER PARTNER, WHICH IS, Y'KNOW, WHAT I'M SAYING IS PLAUSIBLE. YOU SEEM TO BE FAILING TO UNDERSTAND HOW I AM VIEWING THIS GAME: SCUM KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. SCUM TRY TO CONSTRUCT A NARRATIVE THAT LEADS TO THEIR WIN. TOWN'S JOB IS TO FIGURE OUT THIS NARRATIVE TO FIGURE OUT WHO THE SCUM ARE. YOU AND NICK BOTH MAKE SENSE BASED ON WHAT HAPPENED, DEPENDING ON WHICH OF TWO VERY LIKELY NARRATIVES WAS IN PLAY.

GET OFF YOUR SELF-RIGHTEOUS "I'M RIGHT" HORSE FOR ONCE AND ACTUALLY ENGAGE WITH WHAT I AM SAYING.

it makes sense from your viewpoint cos you are scum. if you had spent the better part of the d1 engaging with people you would actually know what was going on. but you didn't and if you think you can waltz in to this day round after your main antagonist is dead and push really shitty cases you are wrong.

[Nachomamma8]

Nacho was late to the wagon.

third on the wagon versus hammer
HMMMMM

[BROseidon]

Fuck, I thought I answered that.

I did not receive anything last night. Checked my email notifications of PMs to make sure I didn't accidentally delete the PM, and I got no PMs from Bork between the 24th (my prod) and today (day start PM)

[Nachomamma8]

PROTECTING OR BUSSING BRO PICK YOUR POISON

[BROseidon]

it makes sense from your viewpoint cos you are scum. if you had spent the better part of the d1 engaging with people you would actually know what was going on. but you didn't and if you think you can waltz in to this day round after your main antagonist is dead and push really shitty cases you are wrong.

You realize I primarily work through reading other people's interactions/rereading, right?

[BROseidon]

EARLY WAFFLEY PROTECT INTO BUS.

HOW ABOUT THAT.

[BROseidon]

Also Cabd come back here I want to work with someone that will actually listen to me.

I have no idea what you tried to send me last night, but it didn't go through.

[Nachomamma8]

it felt like you were not pushing for Rach nearly as hard as town-you normally would.

if i wasn't playing actively enough yesterday, that is a separate concern. but i was pretty publicly and adamantly for a rach lynch yesterday, and probably would have pushed it harder if people that i normally listen to weren't screaming "NO NACHO NO WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING"

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

Nacho: Refer to above image. I'm thinking 50-65% chance.

The main issue I'm having is that I read through everything last night, and it felt like you were not pushing for Rach nearly as hard as town-you normally would. The fact that you townread her early stuck with me MORE than the fact that you were on the wagon and supporting it in the end; I attribute the Rach push to

Muffin/Thez/Desp

. Not to you.

That's not what I'd expect from you.

There's also the whole issue of your interactions with Venmar, who had disgusting interactions with Rach.

Maybe a Venmar lynch first would be good...

lol.

Naw still want Mala's head on a platter. Nhammen's first post pinged and Mala's done jack to alleviate that since then.

oh was this why you were sucking up to aj?

[Nachomamma8]

EARLY WAFFLEY PROTECT INTO BUS.

HOW ABOUT THAT.

early waffley protect into bus into late waffley bus describes my interactions with her pretty solidly, actually. don't you agree?

[Nachomamma8]

townread her early

LEANING TOWN READ EARLY FOR 1 POST

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

it makes sense from your viewpoint cos you are scum. if you had spent the better part of the d1 engaging with people you would actually know what was going on. but you didn't and if you think you can waltz in to this day round after your main antagonist is dead and push really shitty cases you are wrong.

You realize I primarily work through reading other people's interactions/rereading, right?

no, I didn't, cos you somehow have managed to miss the entire progression of where I was at with rach.

it is right here. in this thread. that you claim to have read from a town standpoint which you have not. cos you are not town.

[BROseidon]

Considering how little you posted day 1, that one post was fairly substantive.

pedit: Part of me wants to get lynched now just to knock you off your high-horse, but that doesn't help town.

And I'm not sucking up to AJ. I'm just pointing out that last time around, nobody was willing to accept that he might be town with valid opinions, and it ended up helping me win.

Sort of like you're doing now.

[Nachomamma8]

you are currently holding me up to an unfair standard, BRO. you are using interactions where I waffled with my read on rach and thought she was town OVER the big picture, which is that i ended up pushing rach for the majority of the day yesterday (yes I did have a side-venture in pushing mutley, but hey i stopped that pretty quick didn't i), and ended up giving that wagon my support for the most of the day. i didn't have a huge part in pushing rach herself, but i did have a huge part in stalling the counterwagon on andy, which you also seem to miss. so if you're going to throw out the "waah waah no one's listening to me" shit out, then you need to give me some big picture things because right now it's sounding an awful lot like bullshit. when you town flail, you usually don't need to play with emotions while you do it but that's exactly what you're doing here.

[Nachomamma8]

Unvote, Vote: Venmar

i still want this dead as my #1 priority. i will put on my town leader's heir hat tomorrow and talk this out w/andylove.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

Considering how little you posted day 1, that one post was fairly substantive.

pedit: Part of me wants to get lynched now just to knock you off your high-horse, but that doesn't help town.

And I'm not sucking up to AJ. I'm just pointing out that last time around, nobody was willing to accept that he might be town with valid opinions, and it ended up helping me win.

Sort of like you're doing now.

hey, I kept reaching out to you on d1 cos I thought I was seeing something similar that went on in rw. you never showed up. you actively posted elsewhere on the site and avoided this game.

NOW THAT YOUR NUMBER 1 ANTAGONIST IS DEAD I GUESS YOU FEEL SAFE TO COME IN AND PUSH YOUR SCUMMY AGENDA.

[Trust Fund]

You're breaking my heart, mr bro. You should have gotten something last night, and the fact you didn't means you're probably scum.