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Post Post #2625 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:51 am

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In post 2616, Mac wrote:
In post 2337, Malakittens wrote:Herro scum cw. Rach is town and Andy is scum, tyvm.
i think you said it here?

amirite?
... Yeah that was right about the time I had my second drink of vodka. I do not remember saying that.
In post 2617, Mac wrote:not one single person was trying to policy lynch rach. you are just flat out bullshitting now mala.

moar mala votes plz
They will keep saying it wasn't a policy lynch, but it looked like a policy lynch to me. I have seen her be mislynch bait before because hell I as scum mislynched her on dead purpose to try and bring in a win. There's been times where scum-Rach has been more "obvious" to me and I couldn't pull a lynch on her because I wasn't being listened too, but town Rach is somewhat easy for me to read. I have played with her when I was town in two other games and I pegged her as town right away. So, yeah I *thought* I was decent at reading her, but I'm wrong now.
No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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Post Post #2626 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:52 am

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In post 2624, BROseidon wrote:
In post 2622, Mac wrote:are you asking me to look at your interactions with mala and nhammen? cos I'm not really sure what you mean
Yes.
why are you asking me to do that
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Post Post #2627 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:53 am

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In post 2623, Trust Fund wrote:Also, I lied. So there's that~
Can we link Varsoon to this game after it's done to demonstrate how to properly execute a reaction test?
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Post Post #2628 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:54 am

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In post 2627, BROseidon wrote:
In post 2623, Trust Fund wrote:Also, I lied. So there's that~
Can we link Varsoon to this game after it's done to demonstrate how to properly execute a reaction test?
...Varsoon is in the FTL hydra, Bro.
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Post Post #2629 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:55 am

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In post 2626, Mac wrote:
In post 2624, BROseidon wrote:
In post 2622, Mac wrote:are you asking me to look at your interactions with mala and nhammen? cos I'm not really sure what you mean
Yes.
why are you asking me to do that
Because I'm trying to gauge the narrative that you're constructing about who is scum and why.

aka the fact that you are scumreading both Mala and me is strange as balls unless you think we're cross-bussing hard and that I've been bussing since before she was in the game.

pedit: Doh >.>
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Post Post #2630 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:56 am

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HEY VARSOON LOOK AT CABD'S REACTION TEST.

IT'S A REALLY GOOD REACTION TEST.

YOU SHOULD DO THEM MORE LIKE THAT.
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Post Post #2631 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:56 am

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My now used up role was a oneshot night role remover that would ONLY work if the player was scum. It would strip their ability to NK, and any other power role they might have. Should my role target town, it will fail. The shot WAS used up, so it wasn't blocked. If it was re-directed obviously nobody is gonna claim their PR was removed, and the re-direction target was likely town anyways.


TL;DR bro leans town now.
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Post Post #2632 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:56 am

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In post 2625, Malakittens wrote:
In post 2616, Mac wrote:
In post 2337, Malakittens wrote:Herro scum cw. Rach is town and Andy is scum, tyvm.
i think you said it here?

amirite?
... Yeah that was right about the time I had my second drink of vodka. I do not remember saying that.
In post 2617, Mac wrote:not one single person was trying to policy lynch rach. you are just flat out bullshitting now mala.

moar mala votes plz
They will keep saying it wasn't a policy lynch, but it looked like a policy lynch to me. I have seen her be mislynch bait before because hell I as scum mislynched her on dead purpose to try and bring in a win. There's been times where scum-Rach has been more "obvious" to me and I couldn't pull a lynch on her because I wasn't being listened too, but town Rach is somewhat easy for me to read. I have played with her when I was town in two other games and I pegged her as town right away. So, yeah I *thought* I was decent at reading her, but I'm wrong now.
mala I'm going to ask you to take a look at

that is a complete case from townZMON on rach, it's legit, and it's like all of her posts. it's
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and your response was basically

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In post 1431, Malakittens wrote:^ Yeah you are just PL'ing her for being useless.
you completely discredited a valid case by trying to push that rach was nothing more than a policy lynch. that is flat out not true.
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Post Post #2633 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:57 am

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And nick is maybe scum going for the double town lynch setup.
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Post Post #2634 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:57 am

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In post 2623, Trust Fund wrote:Also, I lied. So there's that~
and what did you learn from that?
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Post Post #2635 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:58 am

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In post 2633, Trust Fund wrote:And nick is maybe scum going for the double town lynch setup.
What do you think of my Rach/Nick/Mala/Venmar theory?

Also Mac 10/10 would read that post again.
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Post Post #2636 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:59 am

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Mac wrote:
In post 2623, Trust Fund wrote:Also, I lied. So there's that~
and what did you learn from that?
In post 2631, Trust Fund wrote:TL;DR bro leans town now.
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Post Post #2637 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:00 am

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In post 2629, BROseidon wrote:
In post 2626, Mac wrote:
In post 2624, BROseidon wrote:
In post 2622, Mac wrote:are you asking me to look at your interactions with mala and nhammen? cos I'm not really sure what you mean
Yes.
why are you asking me to do that
Because I'm trying to gauge the narrative that you're constructing about who is scum and why.

aka the fact that you are scumreading both Mala and me is strange as balls unless you think we're cross-bussing hard and that I've been bussing since before she was in the game.

pedit: Doh >.>
I'll cross that bridge when mala flips scum
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Post Post #2638 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:01 am

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In post 2483, Andrius wrote:I'll take my town leader hat now pls.

Vote: mastin
I'm going to have to remove that hat for a terribad vote. Instead, have this one:

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In post 2509, TiphaineDeath wrote:It makes perfect sense. Andi thought Mala was dead. In actuality Sound is dead. The scum team last night considered offing mala, before switching to sound. Andi forgot they had switched their NK. Simple and easy as pie.
No, it doesn't because Mala is scum. Ergo, this in no way makes sense about Andrius.
In post 2510, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
nah, mala was lynch fodder, scum would not have nked her.
Please, please, please don't chalk her up to lynch fodder. She's scum, totally and completely. I think we've seen that my case is gaining more and more weight with Rach's own flip.
In post 2518, BROseidon wrote:And it didn't strike you as odd that I was voting for the person you thought was dead?

Also holy fuck I'm going to be the AJ of this game. Remember, when I flip town to ACTUALLY LOOK AT MY READS BECAUSE HOLY FUCK AJ'S READS WERE GOOD LAST TIME AND I WAS SO PLEASED WHEN EVERYONE IGNORED THEM.
Most of that was gut because I had become so tired of getting tied to 2 there. TD, I was sure was scum but I'm not even sure I stayed course with that read to the end.
In post 2524, notscience wrote:Mala or Bro should be the lynch
today
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I wholeheartedly agree with this. I prefer Mala first. And then we can check Nacho, or anyone I tagged earlier in connection with Rach. And if we're missing really bad (trust me, we won't... I got this) we can lynch Bro as an 'out of options' lynch. But not until then.
In post 2566, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
Naw still want Mala's head on a platter. Nhammen's first post pinged and Mala's done jack to alleviate that since then.
oh was this why you were sucking up to aj?
Really, there's no convincing needing to be done to get me to want to lynch Mala.
In post 2590, Malakittens wrote:
In post 2532, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:mala plz vote bro
VOTE: bro
Hence, we see beyond any reasonable doubt you are scum. Easy to get you to vote onto a counterwagon, eh?

VOTE: Malakittens

I don't even mind Sakitown gone. I knew Thez's slot was town, it was really obvious. Unfortunately, Saki was completely destroying that slot and was generally unhelpful. Therefore, I think Muttley is right in his shot.
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Post Post #2639 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:01 am

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so tf, scum would not have been able to nightkill at all?
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Post Post #2640 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:03 am

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Mollie asked me to move my vote. I was planning to anyways after reviewing SoS' posts. Fery was convinced Bro was scum and I wasn't convinced myself of Bro's liar tell that he was trying to push on Fery when I first replaced into.
No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.


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Post Post #2641 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:04 am

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And so now with the reaction test by TF, what do you think?
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Post Post #2642 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:06 am

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In post 2639, Mac wrote:so tf, scum would not have been able to nightkill at all?
It strips my target of any and all powers so long as they're scum. So basically, if bro was scum, he'd lose any night role AND the ability to preform the factional kill.
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Post Post #2643 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:06 am

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I think it's funny. Bro gets to 3 votes and then shortly after I'm up to three votes. Like I said reeks of me being a counterwagon to scum-Bro at this point of time.

TF you did a similar gambit in Vox's game. So there's a freaken chance you *could* be lying about your role again. I already had a decent town read on you so that's not going to change anytime soon.
No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.


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Post Post #2644 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:07 am

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In post 2642, Trust Fund wrote:
In post 2639, Mac wrote:so tf, scum would not have been able to nightkill at all?
It strips my target of any and all powers so long as they're scum. So basically, if bro was scum, he'd lose any night role AND the ability to preform the factional kill.
Okay? So if he was vanilla AND lost the power to kill.. Why would he admit he lost the power to kill? He wouldn't.
No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.


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Post Post #2645 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:08 am

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In post 2642, Trust Fund wrote:
In post 2639, Mac wrote:so tf, scum would not have been able to nightkill at all?
It strips my target of any and all powers so long as they're scum. So basically, if bro was scum, he'd lose any night role AND the ability to preform the factional kill.
right.

so bro could still be scum if he didn't make the factional kill (which he wouldn't have)

@mala oh my god i cannot believe you are talking about counterwagons, talk about desperate. who are the scum on your counterwagon then?
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Post Post #2646 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:08 am

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In post 2644, Malakittens wrote:
In post 2642, Trust Fund wrote:
In post 2639, Mac wrote:so tf, scum would not have been able to nightkill at all?
It strips my target of any and all powers so long as they're scum. So basically, if bro was scum, he'd lose any night role AND the ability to preform the factional kill.
Okay? So if he was vanilla AND lost the power to kill.. Why would he admit he lost the power to kill? He wouldn't.
Go look at how my lie played out. I worded it to suggest it would confirm him as town that he had something changed to vanilla. In other words, I was softing that the vanilla play would only work on town when it actually only works on scum.

And i highly doubt bro has read paradox prime. (And that fake cop claim won town the game)
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Post Post #2647 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:09 am

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In post 2645, Mac wrote:so bro could still be scum if he didn't make the factional kill (which he wouldn't have)
Hence "leans" town due to what I said. But even if we leave him alone and he makes it to endgame and was scum all along, he won't be able to kill when he's alone sooooooo if we get a whole bunch of nights with no deaths in what feels like massclaim time, lynch him.
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Post Post #2648 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:10 am

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In post 2645, Mac wrote:
In post 2642, Trust Fund wrote:
In post 2639, Mac wrote:so tf, scum would not have been able to nightkill at all?
It strips my target of any and all powers so long as they're scum. So basically, if bro was scum, he'd lose any night role AND the ability to preform the factional kill.
right.

so bro could still be scum if he didn't make the factional kill (which he wouldn't have)

@mala oh my god i cannot believe you are talking about counterwagons, talk about desperate. who are the scum on your counterwagon then?
Bro and I'm still not sold on Aj-town.

Yep, I'm so desperate. No, the wagon is conveniently made after Bro has a few votes placed on him. Give it a few more hours and I'll be in the lead.
No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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Post Post #2649 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:10 am

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In post 2461, Sound of Silence wrote:Town
FTL
notscience
BnB
Venmar
Trust Fund
TD
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Aj The Epic
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Desperado
nickthename
Rach

Null
Andrius (fery have him as town I think)
Nachomamma (I think fery have him as leaning town)
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Mac

Scum
nhammen/Mala
BROseidon
skull/mutley
Important. (With the exception of nick and obviously Rach, I agree with every single townread listed.)

Andy: Never gonna happen. You have a better chance of trying to get notscience vigged than you do of trying to get me lynched.

Venmar: I assume you did some reading over the night. (I, too, did some work on my reads, though not nearly as much as I should have.) What'd you come up with?
In post 2572, Nachomamma8 wrote:
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VOTE: Malakittens.
(Could vote Nacho, too. Also, nick's still scum.)
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