Mini 1482: Castle - A Mafia Murder So Vile (GAME OVER)

[Malakittens]

2.29

with eleven alive it will take six to lynch.

*macmollie -
*Huntress -
*Sweet Pertayter -
*thenewearth -
*Mantisdreamz - macmollie, Sweet Pertayter [2]
*Wisdom - Desperado, Huntress [2]
*Serrapaladin -
*Desperado - Serrapaladin, bert [2]
*Bert -
*Natirasha - penguin_alien [1]
*penguin_alien - Mantisdreamz, Natirasha [2]

Not Voting [2]: thenewearth, Wisdom

Chapter 2 Ends..

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2013-09-05 03:00:00)

(There are no hints/clues in this flavor or in any flavor of the vote counts or death scenes. It's for entertainment purposes.)

[Wisdom]

*macmollie - thenewearth, ArcAngel9, Lynx_Shine, Mantisdreamz [4]

And again later.
Nah. Not the scumteam.

[Huntress]

I don't like cases. She can read penguin's posts on her own.

Sure I can; in fact I already said I've read her ISO when asking the question in the first place. However that doesn't tell me why

you

think she's scum. It's

your

thoughts about it I'm interested in, and those of the others voting her, as looking at the overall voting picture it seems as if Mantis started the push on Penguin as a pre-emptive counterwagon to her own which you later joined her in pushing after the Mantis wagon from day one re-emerged.

[Wisdom]

You also said you're going to read the whole thing, so you'll find the reasons you want while you do so.

[Desperado]

THAT IS IT. and I don't know why except it is about that time when I start to get weird with people whom I have played a lot of games with. he has dropped down to an apathetic state but yeah this game had a slump and we all kind of lost steam. I am not sure what we can do to rope him in if he is town.

You can realize that Wisdom's scumread on me is based on his "experience" with me, which amounts to one day of Pokemon Nuzlocke before it got abandoned, despite the fact that Wisdom has also said

in this game

that a single game of experience is not enough to constitute a reliable meta read. I've mentioned this multiple times and he continues ignoring it and reiterating how "This doesn't feel like the town-Desp I know" when he, by his own admission, has no reasonable justification for saying it.

I think Wisdom is arrogant scum who saw an opportunity to setup multiple lynches based on the end of day one but, now that neither of them drew results, he's falling back on weak ass reads ("This isn't town-Desp," "Penguin is scum because she should know I'm town by now," "Slimer lurks"????) that don't stand up to even the slightest bit of scrutiny (which is why he keeps ignoring me when I try to scrutinize, because he knows his meta read on me is bullshit that can't be defended).

this post really smells like scum caught out for what they think are the wrong reasons.

desp, I never scum read you cos of wis it was for my own reasons which are nearly impossible to explain. mac town read you and I am not sure where he stands with that now.

I really liked my exchanges with om.

om when you get back in here can we talk a bit more?

I can be good with a penny lynch I suppose. I don't have any solid scumreads tbh but I do have a couple of solid town reads and I intend to work with them.

"For what they think are the wrong reasons" are you saying wisdom's read on me is legitimate? He's ignored me every time I brought this up, you don't find that significant?

[Wisdom]

How have I ignored you?

[Desperado]

You continually act as though you have a rock solid baseline for my townplay:

Desp, this weak defensive play is nothing like you. I remember you being aggressive and going after people, lots of people, in Nuzlocke. Now I do believe people can play differently in games, but such a big difference? Why are you doing nothing here?

Because fucking read Desp's posts. He is not town. I've seen town-Desp and it's not this thing here.

Well just read 72, mollie. Desp wouldn't use that weak stuff to townread a buddy. It's townreading actual town for fake reasons.

I don't know about Tater. Om I just don't know and don't really like, and Mara has just seemed apathetic for the most part. In the few posts she did care and made I thought I got town vibes. But I'm not that good at reading Mara anyway.

I'm thinking slimer over Tater though because I don't think Tater makes much sense with the other two (again thinking as if we have the two flips, I know, but I'm feeling like they're both confscum so can't help it). however, slimer said something about wanting to go see who Lynx suspected, which is weird given Lynx actually suspected slimer and it makes me doubt that he's scum.

I don't know how you see Desp town. If he's town he's really really apathetic about the game - he doesn't do anything, he sheeps people, his cases are really weak.. I don't think I can see that as town. Town-Desp I had seen was active, constantly trying to read people.. basically the exact opposite of what I'm seeing here.

And I disputed your meta read every time, yet you continue to espouse your position like it's beyond reproach. If that's not ignoring, that what do you call it?

[Wisdom]

I agree that you cannot meta off one game. I will give you that. However when the change is SO drastic, and your play here is the exact opposite of the town play of that one game, I cannot ignore it.
If it was only meta, I would give you the benefit of the doubt and say that for some reason you are super apathetic about this game and you can still be town. It isn't, however. Your pushes have been bad, your cases have been bad, your "one of Natirasha/Tater/serra has to be scum" looks like a typical scum-motivated forced conclusion, and you do not actively try to figure out anyone. You only try to defend yourself when attacked, and you whine about the reasons people scumread you. Which again, is what scum do.

[Desperado]

Cool, how about you stop voting no one and do something about it then?

Me vs you, let's go.

[Wisdom]

VOTE: Desp

[Natirasha]

Sure, why not? VOTE: Desperado

[serrapaladin]

God dammit desp might be town and I need to do some reading.

UNVOTE:

If someone teaches me how

nawk

works, I might still get to this tonight?

[Bert]

Cool, how about you stop voting no one and do something about it then?

Me vs you, let's go.

Lmao

Are you kidding me

I will cry if you're not lynched

God dammit desp might be town and I need to do some reading.

UNVOTE:

If someone teaches me how

nawk

works, I might still get to this tonight?

You come in and post twice that you'd be happy lynching desp or slimer, and then you come in and have "no time" and back off lmao. Chicken bawk bawk!!!!

[serrapaladin]

Explain to me why you think that's scummy, Bert? I would say it fits better with town-desp.

[Wisdom]

Umm no it doesn't?

[Wisdom]

serra you just want to make me paranoid again, don't you?

[Bert]

I might still get to this tonight?

Explain to me why you think that's scummy, Bert? I would say it fits better with town-desp.

OH

MY GOD

Don't you tempt me to post an irritating GIF

Go.

Read. The. Damn. GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Then get back to us. You're "busy" and don't have "time to get to this," and yet you're posting here asking me QUESTIONS. !!!!!!!

Cool, how about you stop voting no one and do something about it then?

Me vs you, let's go.

How is this town-Desp? Explain this to me NOW. That was a PUNY defense. "let's go, vote me, let's see whatcha got"

REALLY, SERRA. If that's town-Desp, what's scum-Desp????????????

[serrapaladin]

It's attracting votes by proposing a 1-on-1 against someone with more towncred. It wouldn't be a very smart move unless wisdom is his buddy. I can't think of a single time scum under pressure has reacted like that against anyone but their buddy.

And responding to a flashing message on my phone takes about 20 seconds, whereas opening MS on my computer and reading through pages is a time-sink.

[Desperado]

How is this town-Desp? Explain this to me NOW. That was a PUNY defense. "let's go, vote me, let's see whatcha got"

REALLY, SERRA. If that's town-Desp, what's scum-Desp????????????

Considering both of them are speaking from one days worth of evidence I don't think they have any clue what either of me looks like, which is why this entire thing is so outrageous.

[Desperado]

Umm no it doesn't?

You just conceded that your meta on me is worthless. Your opinion on what is or isn't indicative of my town meta is irrelevant.

[Wisdom]

It has nothing to do with meta. You're just not town, your actions can't be town.

[Desperado]

Right. First they just weren't reminiscent of the one day we played together months ago, now they just can't be town in generic terms.

If any of you isn't voting Wisdom or myself by your next post, you are doing it wrong.

[Sweet Pertayter]

WAFFLES

WAFFLES ON EVERYONE

[macmollie]

VOTE: desperado

[Natirasha]

WAFFLES

WAFFLES ON EVERYONE

I never liked waffles.