Mini 1482: Castle - A Mafia Murder So Vile (GAME OVER)

[FakeGod]

I forgot to mention:

I need to go FOS people who backed off mantiz lynch after neighbor claim then lynched fitz without a claim.

[Wisdom]

but then you later amended it to "your meta is irrelevant, your actions are just scummy."

Again, this was in regards to the specific action that serra was talking about.

[FakeGod]

Also, someone tell me who "tater" is please

[Wisdom]

Wisdom's d1 reads stayed consistent entire day. (TNE_scum, mantis_town, Serra_scum, Bert_town, Nati_scum)

And how does that mean town? Scum are actually the ones who are afraid to alter their reads in fear of contradicting themselves or making it too obvious that their change is opportunistic.

Nati's behavior toward the endgame (when he switched between Des/Serra/Mantis and finally fitz) seemed like scum trying to ensure a mislynch, compared to Desp who was ok with not lynching if it came to that. (I think d1 NL is fine)

Bullshit.
First of all, a F1 NL is not fine because town learns nothing. Therefore wanting to lynch someone, anyone, is a town mindset. Desp not caring is a scum mindset. You've got things reversed.

[Wisdom]

I need to go FOS people who backed off mantiz lynch after neighbor claim then lynched fitz without a claim.

fitz was a deadline lynch, there was no way for him to claim.

[Wisdom]

Also, someone tell me who "tater" is please

Sweet Pertayter, aka a hydra of Ms Marangal and Om of the Nom.

[FakeGod]

What?

Consistency = Town. You can't be possibly arguing otherwise.

And d1 NL is perfectly fine. I rather NL than lynch my town reads.

[FakeGod]

Priority for d1:

Lynch scumread > Lynch null > NL > Lynch townread.

If there's not enough votes for the first two options, I would NL.

Is it ideal? No, but I can't do anything about it.

[Wisdom]

No, it isn't. It just gives an extra kill to scum.

And consistency does not equal town. Town are supposed to adjust their reads as things happen. Someone keeping the same reads without the game affecting them probably means he does not care to figure out things.

[Natirasha]

The fun part, FakeGod, is that your very consistent with your own reads.

TNE_scum

Trying to justify a no lynch on day one is terrible. Like, if there is ANY day you don't want to NL, it's that one. It leaves you nowhere to go on day two except a dead townie. I said a few things about NLing day one, yes, but it was mostly out of Wisdom spite and because I refuse to hang myself. We had no way of letting fitz claim, considering he hadn't posted FOR SIX FUCKING DAYS BEFORE DEADLINE. You're interpretation of day's end sucks.

Lynch scumread > Lynch null > NL > Lynch townread.

We lynched null.

Thanks for invigorating me, though. The waffling was terrible. VOTE: FakeGod.

[FakeGod]

Scum has to stay slippery with their reads to stay afloat.

Someone keeping the same reads throughout the game means he has read the game, determined with logic/gut/whatever who are town/scum, and sees merit in defending his reads because he actually believes in them.

[Wisdom]

The fun part, FakeGod, is that your very consistent with your own reads.

TNE_scum

What do you mean here?

[FakeGod]

I'm very consistent with my reads.

I very rarely change my reads once I give them.

Go away scum.

Vote: Natirasha

[Natirasha]

The fun part, FakeGod, is that your very consistent with your own reads.

TNE_scum

What do you mean here?

Who is TNE?

[FakeGod]

TNE is my predecessor.

[Wisdom]

Someone keeping the same reads throughout the game means he has read the game, determined with logic/gut/whatever who are town/scum, and sees merit in defending his reads because he actually believes in them.

Except town have no way of knowing if they are actually correct in their reads and therefore paranoia makes them doubt them and second-guess themselves. If you see someone not doing that, they're prolly scum (See penguin's tne push, penguin's Wisdom push or Desp's Nat push).

[Natirasha]

That was the implication to my little koan, yes.

[Wisdom]

Nat, again, what did you mean there?

[serrapaladin]

That was the implication to

my little koan

, yes.

<3

But yeah that replace in isn't looking too good.

I'm ready to open my thread, but the rest of my day is divided between this and Saints Row IV, so stuff will happen.

[FakeGod]

Except town have no way of knowing if they are actually correct in their reads and therefore paranoia makes them doubt them and second-guess themselves. If you see someone not doing that, they're prolly scum (See penguin's tne push, penguin's Wisdom push or Desp's Nat push).

Only thing we have is our brains; if we cannot have faith in our own deductions, then what can we have faith in?

[Wisdom]

Bullshit.
So far you look like scum to me.
Scum replacements' first move in a game with me is look for a bullshit reason to buddy me, and this looked like it.

[FakeGod]

Unfortunate.

[Natirasha]

Nat, again, what did you mean there?

He called himself scum.

[Wisdom]

No, he didn't. He was talking about MY reads.

[Natirasha]

Hm. So he did. Oh well.