Mini 1482: Castle - A Mafia Murder So Vile (GAME OVER)

[Sweet Pertayter]

I keep thinking Fake God is scum but then I don't know if that's just my kneejerk reaction to his kind of personality.
Idk, I can't decide. I feel like his posts between Mara's last post and this post give me really bad vibes and I feel like he's focusing way too much on Nati right now. It just seems like he's also trying to play the willing-sacrifice card to look more persuasive but I don't feel like he's being genuine.
But then at the same time I see the points Mara raised up about him forcing others to be like him and we both agree that scum probably wouldn't really do that and it gives me second thoughts.

Mollie, what do you think? Also I kinda can't really answer your question about serra because I really don't remember that game all that much, sorry.

~Om

[macmollie]

I keep thinking Fake God is scum but then I don't know if that's just my kneejerk reaction to his kind of personality.
Idk, I can't decide. I feel like his posts between Mara's last post and this post give me really bad vibes and I feel like he's focusing way too much on Nati right now. It just seems like he's also trying to play the willing-sacrifice card to look more persuasive but I don't feel like he's being genuine.
But then at the same time I see the points Mara raised up about him forcing others to be like him and we both agree that scum probably wouldn't really do that and it gives me second thoughts.

Mollie, what do you think? Also I kinda can't really answer your question about serra because I really don't remember that game all that much, sorry.

~Om

okay. does mara not remember it either? cos her and tam nailed both of us as soon as we subbed in. so did you.

I don't understand why I have had to ask this so many times and have it not answered until now.

[Malakittens]

2.34

with eleven alive it will take six to lynch.

*macmollie -
*Huntress -
*Sweet Pertayter -
*FakeGod - Natirasha, macmollie [2]
*Mantisdreamz -
*Wisdom - Desperado, Huntress [2]
*Serrapaladin -
*Desperado - Wisdom, bert, Mantisdreamz [3]
*Bert -
*Natirasha - penguin_alien, FakeGod [2]
*penguin_alien -

Not Voting [2]: Serrapaladin, Sweet Pertayter

Chapter 2 Ends..

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2013-09-05 03:00:00)

(There are no hints/clues in this flavor or in any flavor of the vote counts or death scenes. It's for entertainment purposes.)

[Sweet Pertayter]

I keep thinking Fake God is scum but then I don't know if that's just my kneejerk reaction to his kind of personality.
Idk, I can't decide. I feel like his posts between Mara's last post and this post give me really bad vibes and I feel like he's focusing way too much on Nati right now. It just seems like he's also trying to play the willing-sacrifice card to look more persuasive but I don't feel like he's being genuine.
But then at the same time I see the points Mara raised up about him forcing others to be like him and we both agree that scum probably wouldn't really do that and it gives me second thoughts.

Mollie, what do you think? Also I kinda can't really answer your question about serra because I really don't remember that game all that much, sorry.

~Om

okay. does mara not remember it either? cos her and tam nailed both of us as soon as we subbed in. so did you.

I don't understand why I have had to ask this so many times and have it not answered until now.

Link the game for me and I'll ask her and also refresh my memory a bit.
Also I don't remember you asking before but oh well.

Still would like your opinion on FG btw. Mara and I are divided, I lean scum she leans town.

~Om

[Natirasha]

I need the potato hydra to answer this question for me: yes or no?

[macmollie]

I keep thinking Fake God is scum but then I don't know if that's just my kneejerk reaction to his kind of personality.
Idk, I can't decide. I feel like his posts between Mara's last post and this post give me really bad vibes and I feel like he's focusing way too much on Nati right now. It just seems like he's also trying to play the willing-sacrifice card to look more persuasive but I don't feel like he's being genuine.
But then at the same time I see the points Mara raised up about him forcing others to be like him and we both agree that scum probably wouldn't really do that and it gives me second thoughts.

Mollie, what do you think? Also I kinda can't really answer your question about serra because I really don't remember that game all that much, sorry.

~Om

okay. does mara not remember it either? cos her and tam nailed both of us as soon as we subbed in. so did you.

I don't understand why I have had to ask this so many times and have it not answered until now.

Link the game for me and I'll ask her and also refresh my memory a bit.
Also I don't remember you asking before but oh well.

Still would like your opinion on FG btw. Mara and I are divided, I lean scum she leans town.

~Om

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=27341

I already stated what I thought about fg how are you missing this.

[Sweet Pertayter]

I need the potato hydra to answer this question for me: yes or no?

Was there a beginning to this that I missed or something?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=27341

I already stated what I thought about fg how are you missing this.

Okay I'll read through again quickly.
What you have said about FG so far hasn't really resonated with me. Give me a better rundown of why you think he's scum. What do you think about the points Mara and I have brought up?

~Om

[Natirasha]

Nope, its a simple yes or no. Take your time. I figured that I wouldn't use the dice twice in a row.

[Bert]

Nat wins the 1v1 vs FakeGod and would get my vote <3

[Sweet Pertayter]

Nope, its a simple yes or no. Take your time. I figured that I wouldn't use the dice twice in a row.

Yes.

Also took a quick look and no I'm not getting the same feel from Serra between the two games.
~Om

[Natirasha]

Nat wins the 1v1 vs FakeGod and would get my vote <3

Awesome, glad to have you onboard.

And thanks, Potato.

[FakeGod]

I lost the original when my computer overheated.

Here are my two cents.

macmollie - notable in having suspected pretty much the entire roster at one point or another. (scum read 9 players iirc) part of it is hydra dissonance I think, since they didn't really talk to each other much about reads. (they're not faking it either I think; I can feel the two heads clashing against each other when I read macmollie) Also, I would think town hydra would have more dissonant views than scum hydra. - townish

Huntress/Slimer - Slimer was a lurker, but her posts like 1266 and 1269 where she wants to focus on lynx nk to find scum makes me think she's - noobtown.
null on Huntress. Not enough posts.

Sweet Potato - hydra dissonance is visible here again, but not as much. Holds the record of having suspected second highest number of roster at 6 or 7 players, but both heads seem to be more in line with views on players, which, to me, is more likely to be scum. Also sheeps Nati alot, who I think is hardcore scum. - scummish

Mantis - Correctly identified Lynx as town before flip iirc. Wanted to lynch fitz before flip. Seems to me that he cares about keeping up the scumhunting energy of the town going, and wants to lynch lurkers. I wish I saw him more in d2. - townish

Wisdom - Super paranoid and doubleguesses himself on pretty much every view point he posted. His major towncred comes from 1017 wall. I like his 1017 a lot. Pretty much sums up what I was thinking when was reading through near deadline d1. If Serra, and indirectly Nati, flips scum, this guy is pretty much cleared. You can't fake stuff like 1017 as scum. If you can, then I guess you fooled me good. - Solid town.

Serra/Arc - Arcangel lurked and opportunistic voted. Scum if Wisdom's right about his 1017. I think Serra read tne as town for majority of d1, with some random condition that if desp wasn't scum, tne was. (setting up lynches lol) Soon as I started to post from tne's slot and attack nati, he's on my case. - Scum

Desp - Incredibly similar playstyle as me. Even more extreme, since I would give my reads when asked, where he didn't. (town should help town dude, no matter how small) Plays with meta, which, is ok I guess, but it's fallible. Still, I feel his play was town in d1, and null in d2. -townish

Bert - This guy just random votes highest wagons and sheeps people. And post GIFs. (opening your ISO almost crashed my computer you ****) I can't read him for shit. - null

Nati - Day 1 Deadline play was SCUMMY for reasons Wisdom already mentioned in 1017. Not going to repeat it. Been softclaiming investigative role like literally all of day 2. Softclaimed inno on Potato I think? Doesn't matter. He ain't no cop. Votes Wisdom right off the bat day 2. Says Mantis is townish, then says he doesn't buy the whole neighbor claim. (wtf? that means they're both confirmed scum) He should pushing Wisdom/Mantis HARD right now. Instead he puts them down as null, town in 1198. This is as SOON as he was able to argue his way out vs Wisdom who's been on his case for d2 start. He flipped his reads there to TNE_scum, lol easy target. Then he goes back around 1431 and votes mantis soon as mantis has some votes. Switches to Penguin on 1523 soon as Penguin gains some votes. Switches Desp on 1735 as he gains some votes. He's votehopping to see if he could get a mislynch happen somewhere. I can't wait to 1v1 him, flip town, and watch him BEG FOR MERCY TOMORROW - DIESCUMDIE

peng- should have claimed at L-1 tbh; things balance out. I want to see reaction to my replacing in. -null

[Sweet Pertayter]

Ok that's all I needed.
VOTE: Fake God

[Sweet Pertayter]

~Om

[macmollie]

I need the potato hydra to answer this question for me: yes or no?

Was there a beginning to this that I missed or something?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=27341

I already stated what I thought about fg how are you missing this.

Okay I'll read through again quickly.
What you have said about FG so far hasn't really resonated with me. Give me a better rundown of why you think he's scum. What do you think about the points Mara and I have brought up?

~Om

okay.

I think he is scum. or town but we have a divergence of game approaches. this is all implicit in our interactions.

what are the scum points you have on him again?

UNVOTE: fake god[/vote]

[FakeGod]

Seriously. To peeps who's talking about how I'm scum but not putting votes down.

I have no qualms about trading life with scum.

Nati said he's ok with being lynched if I flip town.

What are you waiting for?

Let's do this.

[macmollie]

UNVOTE: fake god

[FakeGod]

TO THE ARENA

I would also appreciate it if my null reads came and reacted instead of lurking.

[Sweet Pertayter]

okay.

I think he is scum. or town but we have a divergence of game approaches. this is all implicit in our interactions.

what are the scum points you have on him again?

His opening is shit, and his need to FOS people who voted Fitz at the end of the day?

I don't like it, and it looks like he is looking for an easy way to "scum-hunt" over actually doing so. He didn't take into consideration that it was a deadline-lynch, and then does this thing where he would rather no lynch than lynch a town-read, which is understandable, however Fitz wasn't a town-read for anyone.

The only thing that gives me pause is him projecting his personal playstyle upon everyone else. He is expecting everyone to Hunt the way he does which is Faulty as fuck (even though I can sympathize with that kinda mindset)

I don't like this Scum is more/less likely to be consistent/fluid with their reads. It's incredibly fallacious and town have motivation to be sticky with their reads. I know because I used to be sticky as fuck with mine

This was Mara btw.

I keep thinking Fake God is scum but then I don't know if that's just my kneejerk reaction to his kind of personality.
Idk, I can't decide. I feel like his posts between Mara's last post and this post give me really bad vibes and I feel like he's focusing way too much on Nati right now. It just seems like he's also trying to play the willing-sacrifice card to look more persuasive but I don't feel like he's being genuine.
But then at the same time I see the points Mara raised up about him forcing others to be like him and we both agree that scum probably wouldn't really do that and it gives me second thoughts.

Mollie, what do you think? Also I kinda can't really answer your question about serra because I really don't remember that game all that much, sorry.

~Om

~Om

[FakeGod]

psssh

This is the hard way to scumhunt, mara.

If your reads are fluid, you don't have to pay much attention since you can just shift your views.

I could've just read last few pages and lurked through d2 no problem, just like tne was doing.

NOPE. I'm here to hunt some scum. The Hard Way.

[Sweet Pertayter]

Hard does not always equal good.

~Om

[macmollie]

okay.

I think he is scum. or town but we have a divergence of game approaches. this is all implicit in our interactions.

what are the scum points you have on him again?

His opening is shit, and his need to FOS people who voted Fitz at the end of the day?

I don't like it, and it looks like he is looking for an easy way to "scum-hunt" over actually doing so. He didn't take into consideration that it was a deadline-lynch, and then does this thing where he would rather no lynch than lynch a town-read, which is understandable, however Fitz wasn't a town-read for anyone.

The only thing that gives me pause is him projecting his personal playstyle upon everyone else. He is expecting everyone to Hunt the way he does which is Faulty as fuck (even though I can sympathize with that kinda mindset)

I don't like this Scum is more/less likely to be consistent/fluid with their reads. It's incredibly fallacious and town have motivation to be sticky with their reads. I know because I used to be sticky as fuck with mine

This was Mara btw.

I keep thinking Fake God is scum but then I don't know if that's just my kneejerk reaction to his kind of personality.
Idk, I can't decide. I feel like his posts between Mara's last post and this post give me really bad vibes and I feel like he's focusing way too much on Nati right now. It just seems like he's also trying to play the willing-sacrifice card to look more persuasive but I don't feel like he's being genuine.
But then at the same time I see the points Mara raised up about him forcing others to be like him and we both agree that scum probably wouldn't really do that and it gives me second thoughts.

Mollie, what do you think? Also I kinda can't really answer your question about serra because I really don't remember that game all that much, sorry.

~Om

~Om

I know that is 1 of the things that is making me tweak.

she is arguing against something she should be agreeing with fg on. the validity of sticky reads as town. but that is not what she is doing.

I don't like fg's blatant buddying of wis but I find tater's lack of focus more disturbing.

[FakeGod]

@Nati: on the 1% chance against all odds by some miracle that town decides neither of us should be lynched today, who would you lynch?

I already listed my reads above. <3

[macmollie]

tbh that post makes me want to vote you again fg

[FakeGod]

Hard does not always equal good.

~Om

Agreed. Although it does impress some people, no?