Mini 1482: Castle - A Mafia Murder So Vile (GAME OVER)

[Mantisdreamz]

i missed that he claimed.
hedging? no, i'm explaining why i was considering it.

[Wisdom]

desp is in my firm unsure pile but I think sera looks outright scummy.

I don't want to lynch from them. No matter which one it is, penguin (and probably Huntress too) is also scum. Why risk from those two when we can lynch a certain scum?

[Desperado]

nevermind his current position. you are saying that you really believe that wisdom was screaming and trying to get everyone to vote for his scumbuddy serra.... for town credit?

What are you even getting at? Yes, I believe that.

i'm getting at the fact that you said, "considering wisdom's position".. as if it really makes a difference.. or makes it any better, that you want to roll with the idea that wisdom was hardcore bussing his partner.

So let me get this straight.

Wisdom comes out of the gate guns blazing on Nat. When that doesn't work out, he shifts seamlessly to Serra and champions Serra's lynch for several pages.

Now he refuses to vote serra under any circumstances because it's the lynch I want.

And you don't think they could be on the same team? Because Wisdom pushed for his buddy lynched really hard for a few pages?

That's pretty narrow-minded, and beside the point to boot.

[Mantisdreamz]

nevermind his current position. you are saying that you really believe that wisdom was screaming and trying to get everyone to vote for his scumbuddy serra.... for town credit?

I think wis is solid town but I want to put this out there. wis has said he would hard bus a scummate in a heartbeat.

and what I mean by putting this out there is that you are scumreading desp cos he think this when wis has said he would do exactly this. so your line of questioning is flawed.

i've never seen scum bus a partner that hard. in any game i've played.

[Desperado]

i missed that he claimed.
hedging? no, i'm explaining why i was considering it.

Looks to me like you're still leaving the door open for Nats' claim to be bunk. Why else were you suggesting that the breadcrumbs were a bit too obvious and then asking her to claim her role name?

[Mantisdreamz]

nevermind his current position. you are saying that you really believe that wisdom was screaming and trying to get everyone to vote for his scumbuddy serra.... for town credit?

What are you even getting at? Yes, I believe that.

i'm getting at the fact that you said, "considering wisdom's position".. as if it really makes a difference.. or makes it any better, that you want to roll with the idea that wisdom was hardcore bussing his partner.

So let me get this straight.

Wisdom comes out of the gate guns blazing on Nat. When that doesn't work out, he shifts seamlessly to Serra and champions Serra's lynch for several pages.

Now he refuses to vote serra under any circumstances because it's the lynch I want.

And you don't think they could be on the same team? Because Wisdom pushed for his buddy lynched really hard for a few pages?

That's pretty narrow-minded, and beside the point to boot.

i think it's silly that you are even trying to push wisdom.
plus - see where i said i have

never

seen scum push a buddy that hard.


wisdom - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p5138169
desp, you are reminding me of scum-disturbed

[macmollie]

desp is in my firm unsure pile but I think sera looks outright scummy.

I don't want to lynch from them. No matter which one it is, penguin (and probably Huntress too) is also scum. Why risk from those two when we can lynch a certain scum?

I see sera as certain scum, not desp.

and I am going to think about if I am going to stay in this game, cos mac logged off and I am not sure that he will be back. only seen him get this mad once.

[Desperado]

plus - see where i said i have never seen scum push a buddy that hard.

I actually didn't see that considering it came after my post...

But I have seen it. I've done it.

[Mantisdreamz]

i missed that he claimed.
hedging? no, i'm explaining why i was considering it.

Looks to me like you're still leaving the door open for Nats' claim to be bunk. Why else were you suggesting that the breadcrumbs were a bit too obvious and then asking her to claim her role name?

because if he was scum fake-claiming, it'd be interesting to see what claim he would come up with.
anyway - it looks to me, like you're trying to plant suspicion on me now for considering.
mollie - remember IAI

[Wisdom]

@mollie
I was talking about penguin.
We can disagree all you want on if it's Desp or serra, but the buddies are still penguin and Huntress.

[macmollie]

nevermind his current position. you are saying that you really believe that wisdom was screaming and trying to get everyone to vote for his scumbuddy serra.... for town credit?

I think wis is solid town but I want to put this out there. wis has said he would hard bus a scummate in a heartbeat.

and what I mean by putting this out there is that you are scumreading desp cos he think this when wis has said he would do exactly this. so your line of questioning is flawed.

i've never seen scum bus a partner that hard. in any game i've played.

that shit is an outright lie, bussing used to be a huge fucking on tr. ksen and praying both hardbus like hell and I had to do it in the sherlock game when I was pretending to be luis.

eta: in reign of flame cooldog went 1v1 against majiffy

[Desperado]

i missed that he claimed.
hedging? no, i'm explaining why i was considering it.

Looks to me like you're still leaving the door open for Nats' claim to be bunk. Why else were you suggesting that the breadcrumbs were a bit too obvious and then asking her to claim her role name?

because if he was scum fake-claiming, it'd be interesting to see what claim he would come up with.
anyway - it looks to me, like you're trying to plant suspicion on me now for considering.
mollie - remember IAI

No, I'm accusing you of hedging your read on a player who you shouldn't be hedging on at this stage. You either think Nats' claim is legit or not, and asking her to claim her role name when she had already done so betrays the fact that you aren't reading her very closely...even though you think she might be lying.

[macmollie]

@mollie
I was talking about penguin.
We can disagree all you want on if it's Desp or serra, but the buddies are still penguin and Huntress.

I will think about compromising on huntress. I want to hear from nats and fg first.

[Wisdom]

I prefer penguin much more than Huntress - slimer at least had some small towntells like his wanting to analyze the Lynx nightkill. penguin has had nothing.

[Mantisdreamz]

nevermind his current position. you are saying that you really believe that wisdom was screaming and trying to get everyone to vote for his scumbuddy serra.... for town credit?

I think wis is solid town but I want to put this out there. wis has said he would hard bus a scummate in a heartbeat.

and what I mean by putting this out there is that you are scumreading desp cos he think this when wis has said he would do exactly this. so your line of questioning is flawed.

i've never seen scum bus a partner that hard. in any game i've played.

that shit is an outright lie, bussing used to be a huge fucking on tr. ksen and praying both hardbus like hell and I had to do it in the sherlock game when I was pretending to be luis.

eta: in reign of flame cooldog went 1v1 against majiffy

you and majiffy were caught out for it. it wasn't genuine.

anyone that can really say with a straight face that wisdom genuinely looked like he was bussing serra... and then even made an apology post to serra, stating that he was wrong.... is crazy.

[Mantisdreamz]

misread - i saw majiffy, and thought you were talking about the tr game where you and him did some scum theatre

[Wisdom]

Not crazy, just scum.

[Mantisdreamz]

.... is crazy.

or scum

[Mantisdreamz]

yes

[macmollie]

wis

when you flip town i will break down with such sadness because your play has been terribad in this game

Really, now?

mac made a huge slip right there. "when" should have been "if". I think town sera who had a scum read on us would have pursued this to the ends of the earth and he didn't. town makes dumb mistakes all of the time that is why "slips" are only 50% chance of being scum and have the same weight as a coin toss.

[Mantisdreamz]

Not crazy, just scum.

so why are you not voting desp???

[Wisdom]

Fair enough, that was pretty early in the game but I take your point. What's your read on huntress ignoring slimer's posts?

Mollie lining up lynches <3

mollie: how about we lynch me, and

when I flip town

we lynch you, then desp?

when you flip town

i will break down with such sadness because your play has been terribad in this game

Mac was just repeating what serra said, in the same way serra said it. I've seen Mac doing this before, and I got him lynched for that, but he was town. serra was also in that game.
So no.

[Wisdom]

Not crazy, just scum.

so why are you not voting desp???

You're not reading.

[Mantisdreamz]

wis

when you flip town i will break down with such sadness because your play has been terribad in this game

Really, now?

mac made a huge slip right there. "when" should have been "if". I think town sera who had a scum read on us would have pursued this to the ends of the earth and he didn't. town makes dumb mistakes all of the time that is why "slips" are only 50% chance of being scum and have the same weight as a coin toss.

i noticed that he said that too... but since i've got a townread on you guys, i didn't point it out.

[Malakittens]

2.40

with eleven alive it will take six to lynch.

*macmollie -
*Huntress -
*Sweet Pertayter -
*FakeGod - Natirasha, Sweet Pertayter [2]
*Mantisdreamz -
*Wisdom - Huntress [1]
*Serrapaladin - Desperado, macmollie, bert [3]
*Desperado - Mantisdreamz [1]
*Bert -
*Natirasha - FakeGod [1]
*penguin_alien - Wisdom [1]

Not Voting [2]: Serrapaladin, penguin_alien

Chapter 2 Ends..

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2013-09-05 03:00:00)

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