Mini 1478 ~ Mafia Xenologue (Game Over!)

[Saki]

...which leads me to the paranoia that scum has superduper abilities that can gg us regardless of whether or not we lynch correctly

Well he can block nightkills, right?

Question is why kill the "block nightkills dude" over "bring town back alive and give town extra vote" dude

[Lady Lambdadelta]

...which leads me to the paranoia that scum has superduper abilities that can gg us regardless of whether or not we lynch correctly

Well he can block nightkills, right?

Question is why kill the "block nightkills dude" over "bring town back alive and give town extra vote" dude

You need to remember scum can't kill their own people.

But conversely, they can choose not to kill people for WIFOM paranoia.

[Saki]

ugh
wow
why did i not see this before

i was looking through mtc's iso for trademark 'mislynch based off meta' scum-action
it's not there but neither are opinions from cabd/ffery
it's just syry/nacho posting

[Saki]

Which makes me doubt things b/c I doubt Syry posts that frequently and I doubt that nacho has a solid read on me

[Saki]

<insert paranoia of scumcabd gambit>

{Jabberwock, MTC, Andrius} anyone

but I don't have reasons to be sure that whoever's not them is town (aside from me)

FUCK
YOU GUYS
DO SOMETHING
TOWNSLIP
PLZ

[Jabberwock]

Checking in, I'm about to go spend the day with the girlfriend. Tierce is just recently getting back from a meet so you should hear more from us later tonight/tomorrow. We're pretty much trying to go over a reads overhaul here because something is seriously, seriously, seriously off.

Agree with the CES-kill being super weird and I'm trying to figure out what caused it. Any ideas?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Saki, please be quiet.

Jabberwock, that's enough out of you.

I've thought it over, and the CES kill isn't the weird one, it's the DDD kill.

To me, I can see one of two reasons why DDD would have been killed.

1) Scum have a role cop, and DDD was their N1 target (very likely, surprisingly)
2) DDD was killed for a read he had, mainly the Andrius read maybe?

These don't need to conflict either, really. Both can be true...

For me, here's the deal. I need to know if Morph still has that double vote.

Beyond that, I'm trusting Myself Saki and Morph to be town for the moment, giving me 3 scum in 4 players (Jabberwock, Purpkin, Andrius, Daemon).

Shocking how those are names I've been saying most of this game and they're STILL. ALIVE.

For me, I want to just say {Jabberwock, Purpkin, Daemon} and be done with it. Nacho's Andrius read is a thing.

BUT, there was a reason why I said one of Sakura and Andrius was scum, and the DDD kill also helps confirm it in a way.

So really, it's this. Jabberwock and Purpkin are scum. It's down to between Daemon or Andrius for me, and I don't know which way to go on that.

So, yeah.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Basically, I want to lynch Jabberwock or Purpkin today (don't care what order) followed by the other one tomorrow.

And leave the "Daemon/Andrius" choice for another day.

I can't see a world where Saki is scum. I really do not.

Further than that, I can't win this game in a world where Morph is scum. I have to assume he's town and roll with it. If I'm wrong, this is the call that lost the game for us. If Morph is scum, you can blame it all on me.

[morph the cat]

We don't have a double vote any more. The double vote and the communicating with OT was their role ability, not ours. Both ended at nightfall.

We think it's mass claim time.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Alright, claims go in this order:

Jabberwock
Purpkin
Andrius
Daemon
Saki
Morph
Me

Cause fuck you people.

[Saki]

We don't have a double vote any more. The double vote and the communicating with OT was their role ability, not ours. Both ended at nightfall.

We think it's mass claim time.

Well, shit, I misunderstood something

[Purpkin]

Further than that, I can't win this game in a world where Morph is scum. I have to assume he's town and roll with it. If I'm wrong, this is the call that lost the game for us. If Morph is scum, you can blame it all on me.

You can't win this game period with your current reads either since we're regrettably on your scum list, unless you're scum. I don't think you are so if you want to talk this out that would be rad.

We'll claim now cause fuck it:

We're Tharja, a JOATish role. We like Oil Tycoons a looooooooooot:

All of these are one-shot:

1) Roleblock (we also hit saki N1 just as DTM claimed he did)
2) Neighborize two players who are not us (we attempted to neighborize Jabberwock and DDD the night DDD died, hence mara's question)
3) Machoize [seriously, we can make someone immune to protection]. We did not use this - I don't see an obvious pro-town application of this
4) Vig, but only if that player were to target Oil Tycoons, and the ship sailed on that pretty early. We didn't use this either.

We're neighbors with MTC and we have been all game, but that was driven by their role, not ours.

[Saki]

Given flavor it's likely Tharja is an SK

[Saki]

Given flavor it's likely Tharja is an SK

buuuut I don't find that making sense

[Saki]

Never mind, fuck it, I'm stupid
I don't doubt her being a JOAT tho

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I don't trust the claim, but let's see what everyone else claims. Jabberwock next.

[Purpkin]

I don't trust the claim, but let's see what everyone else claims. Jabberwock next.

then you are a silly confirmation biasing sillyhead

[Saki]

im p sure
tharja isn't town
but ehh

[Purpkin]

we're pretty fucking town

[Lady Lambdadelta]

we're pretty fucking town

You're pretty fucking not.

[Saki]

who the fuck claims tharja if they want to be read as conftown

[Lady Lambdadelta]

But for fun, let's hear it.

name the scum team. We're in Lylo, there's 3 scum and 6 options for you. Let's go.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

who the fuck claims tharja if they want to be read as conftown

Shut up, Saki.

[Saki]

nvm this is a upick
what the hell am i saying

[Purpkin]

I'm sorry I'll tell Vi to reissue me a character that you find more appealing

p-edit: jabberwock, daemon, andy