Mini 1482: Castle - A Mafia Murder So Vile (GAME OVER)

[Malakittens]

2.43

with eleven alive it will take six to lynch.

*macmollie -
*Huntress -
*Sweet Pertayter -
*FakeGod - Natirasha, Sweet Pertayter [2]
*Mantisdreamz -
*Wisdom - Huntress [1]
*Serrapaladin - Desperado, macmollie, bert, FakeGod [4]
*Desperado - Mantisdreamz [1]
*Bert -
*Natirasha -
*penguin_alien - Wisdom [1]

Not Voting [2]: Serrapaladin, penguin_alien

Chapter 2 Ends..

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2013-09-05 03:00:00)

(There are no hints/clues in this flavor or in any flavor of the vote counts or death scenes. It's for entertainment purposes.)

[macmollie]

Serra claimed as well.

I've already said what I think about it.

By the way, there's also Fg's claim.

what were their character names?

[FakeGod]

@Mod: My vote is on Serra.

@mac: I'm Jordan Shaw.

[Desperado]

Finished looking at Penguin now and I'm willing to vote there if no one else wants to vote Wisdom. Next choice would be Mantis then possibly Serra or Bert but I'm still undecided on those two.

My main problem with Wisdom as scum is that although he's still my top scumread I can't see who his partners might be. Possibly Macmollie or Fg? But I don't think either are scum. And some of Penguin's posts look like she's pushing suspicion on Wisdom without actually voting him; it doesn't really look like bussing to me. She's also defending Mantis a bit while doing so.

@ Wisdom: Before you ask again, no I can't give you my reasons yet because I just don't have time to both get them together and to keep up with the thread at the moment. I'll try to do that over the next day or two.

Wisdom probably isn't happening today.

And you can't see who Wisdom's partners are on purpose.

I'm Kevin Ryan.

[penguin_alien]

^ what do you mean, not seeing who Wisdom's partners are on purpose?

I'll name claim: I'm Jenny Ryan.

FakeGod's obliterated my scum read on TNE. Unless he's scum with Nat, in that Nat is also fake claiming/crumbing cop, I don't see it. Plus too much independent thinking on display in his reads lists. FakeGod, you said that you found serra scum for, among other things, attacking Natirasha. If you saw the crumbs, isn't it plausible that serra did as well and was going after you for attacking a possible cop? (I don't know how obvious they were to others; I don't look for crumbs after IaI killed us all dead in NY 161 fake crumbing cop.) Discounting that, then, how strong is your serra scum read?

[Bert]

I'm Kevin Ryan.

I'm Jenny Ryan.

I just looked you two up. You both are in a relationship apparently in the Castle show (a TV show?). I know nothing about this game's flavor or Castle.

[penguin_alien]

Yes, totally married after some shenanigans IIRC; I think it's been at least a season since the wedding and the overall drama level has made the wedding small potatoes. But he is rather smitten, and I think she has a better track record for being kidnapped/endangered/plot deviced than most of the characters on the show. :misses wacky crime dramedy:

Care to name claim, or should I pick someone to go next? (this seems less formal than a full-out massclaim)

[Desperado]

I mean if Wisdom flipped scum you could probably craft a reasonable argument for everyone to be his buddy.

PEdit: Ok...?

[FakeGod]

@penguin: I find Serra scummy for attacking me when I started to attack nati. Serra is my second strongest scum read in this game. He derailed the fuck out of nati wagon near d1 deadline for one.

Do note: this read has strong basis in my nati scumread. If Nati flips town, Serra is town.

[FakeGod]

FakeGod, you said that you found serra scum for, among other things, attacking Natirasha.

Incorrect. Serra didn't attack nati.

[penguin_alien]

Right, sorry; I meant attacking you for attacking Nat.

[Wisdom]

Those that supposedly scumread me - this is not how you scumread someone. You're not engaging me, you're not asking me anything, you're not trying to figure me out.

[Sweet Pertayter]

Can we make a LOLlynch that will simultaneously give us information?

[Wisdom]

Can we just lynch penguin?

[Sweet Pertayter]

I'd be down with that I think

[Sweet Pertayter]

though, the last time I moved from Mantis to Penguin, Ommie yelled at me so I'll go and see what he thinks

last I checked, she was null-town to him

[Sweet Pertayter]

Well Mara never actually asked me but I'm not in favor of a Penguin lynch yet bc yeah I am null-town on her right now.

~Om

[Huntress]

Wisdom probably isn't happening today.

And you can't see who Wisdom's partners are on purpose.

I'm Kevin Ryan.

I had a town read on you because your posts seemed genuine and I couldn't see any scum motivation in them but this attempt to discredit me is straining that read. Tell me what you see in my posts that led you to that conclusion?

But my main problem with this post is the name claim. Serra asked how people would feel about a mass name claim. I was the only one to respond. When Macmollie queried me on it I thought about it a bit more and revised my opinion saying it was probably better not to reveal them. Macmollie asked another question about it but never gave her own opinion. Then without waiting for a consensus you go ahead and claim. Why?

Not liking Penguin's immediate acquiescence and attempt to continue, giving the impression that a mass claim has been agreed.

Those that supposedly scumread me - this is not how you scumread someone. You're not engaging me, you're not asking me anything, you're not trying to figure me out.

I tried. Here, (although that was addressed to others as well). That was totally ignored. I pointed to it again here and was again ignored until Macmollie drew your attention to it and you then refused to respond. I tried again here to get at what you were thinking but again you stone-walled so I stopped trying the direct approach with you.

[Wisdom]

I have explained why I want penguin lynched a billion times, so no.

[Huntress]

I wasn't repeating that request now, if that is what you are implying. I was just pointing out that you can't complain about people not engaging with you if you are not prepared to engage with them.

[Wisdom]

I'm not complaining, I'm pointing out your scumread on me is fake.

[Desperado]

Wisdom probably isn't happening today.

And you can't see who Wisdom's partners are on purpose.

I'm Kevin Ryan.

I had a town read on you because your posts seemed genuine and I couldn't see any scum motivation in them but this attempt to discredit me is straining that read. Tell me what you see in my posts that led you to that conclusion?

What? Where am I discrediting you?

But my main problem with this post is the name claim. Serra asked how people would feel about a mass name claim. I was the only one to respond. When Macmollie queried me on it I thought about it a bit more and revised my opinion saying it was probably better not to reveal them. Macmollie asked another question about it but never gave her own opinion. Then without waiting for a consensus you go ahead and claim. Why?

Looks to me like half of the game had already claimed and they don't appear to have any bearing on roles anyway.

Not liking Penguin's immediate acquiescence and attempt to continue, giving the impression that a mass claim has been agreed.

Why didn't you say anything about FakeGod claiming right before me?

[Huntress]

1. In that post I quoted.

2. We don't know that for certain.

3. He had already claimed and was repeating it as requested

in the post immediately before his

.

Vote: Penguin

Her name claim matching Desp's seemed a bit too convenient and I didn't like the way she tried to get others to claim.

[macmollie]

1. In that post I quoted.

2. We don't know that for certain.

3. He had already claimed and was repeating it as requested

in the post immediately before his

.

Vote: Penguin

Her name claim matching Desp's seemed a bit too convenient and I didn't like the way she tried to get others to claim.

how is this thing even still alive what did I do to deserve this life is so unfair

anybody with me in lynching huntress

[Wisdom]

Can we just lynch penguin?