Open 527 - Hard Boiled: Dixon Hill's Maudlin Madness

[Natirasha]

Fuck yeah I am Nati

I fought it last game, I'm fighting it this game.

...somethingsomethingplaytowinsomethingsomething...

[Sound of Silence]

O hai Tammy!

[notscience]

Or

We can play the fucking game

And NOT try to make it boring and sheepy

I play to win, but morality is a part of it all too.

[VioleNt Saxophone]

VOTE: Cait Sith

I am down for this though

OKAY. You get to explain this now.

If this is a jiffy vote, then whatevs.

But if this is a Mara vote, you and I, we're going to have a talk.

Guess we are going to have a talk then?

but I'm not about to let Mala scum-up the thread and then get a town-read from me out of it

[Cephrir]

VOTE: Cait Sith

I am down for this though

OKAY. You get to explain this now.

If this is a jiffy vote, then whatevs.

But if this is a Mara vote, you and I, we're going to have a talk.

Guess we are going to have a talk then?

but I'm not about to let Mala scum-up the thread and then get a town-read from me out of it

Please elaborate, I am leaning town on CS.

[Cait Sith]

Oh okay cool...it is Mara.

Now, the part of having a conversation is you explaining what I told you to explain. Because I have an idea for why you voted us, and if my suspicions are correct, then you are either batshit or you're scum.

Guess which one I'm leaning right now?

Because you hydra with Mala and there is literally no way you can claim that she's scumming up the thread. There's just not. Sorry.

pedit: to VS

[notscience]

Mara I'm scumreading your head for not saying I'm obvtown

[Cait Sith]

O hai Tammy!

HAI!

Or

We can play the fucking game

And NOT try to make it boring and sheepy

I play to win, but morality is a part of it all too.

It's not immoral to have the hider claim and the tracker track him. It's called using the roles that town is given to the maximum potential so that town can win.

[notscience]

Wrong.

It makes it all the easier for town to win the game. Basing the ENTIRETY of the game around ONE player is a TERRIBLE idea.

I want both teams to be on even footing, rather than stack the sides. Stacking the sides ruins the fun.

[Cephrir]

NS. The setup is there. Not taking advantage of it is not "giving the scum a fair shot". There's a reason this setup has been run multiple times even though people have figured out this strategy. It's because it's not unfair. And it's not like we're going to sit here nolynching in the interim.

[Syryana]

Votecount 1.4

Trolling Fairy ( 2 ): Sound of Silence, Cait Sith
Natirasha ( 1 ): Natirasha
Shodan ( 1 ): 1baldeagle1
SalmonellaDoctor ( 1 ): Shodan
Cait Sith ( 1 ): Violent Saxophone
Not Voting ( 7 ): Trolling Fairy, Cephrir, BROseidon, SalmonellaDoctor, TheIrishPope, notscience, Mac

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2013-09-15 11:54:00)

[VioleNt Saxophone]

Mara I'm scumreading your head for not saying I'm obvtown

Ok!

I don't think you're obv town yet Science, sorry


Tammy, sure I have a hydra with Mala though she is the only partner I don't have a clear record with when it comes to reading them outside of it


Though I'm pretty sure that, when she goes straight into "working for town" she is, more so that not, scum.

her first few posts are her working for town, and her stroking my own ego both of which are things that put me on edge, especially since she goes after them this early

I'm going to go with batshit insane, but what do I know!

[VioleNt Saxophone]

also!

both her and C waited for me to pull the strings RE TIP almost as if one of the two are waiting to see if we can get him mislynched this game

[Cait Sith]

Mara I'm scumreading your head for not saying I'm obvtown

Ok!

I don't think you're obv town yet Science, sorry


Tammy, sure I have a hydra with Mala though she is the only partner I don't have a clear record with when it comes to reading them outside of it


Though I'm pretty sure that, when she goes straight into "working for town" she is, more so that not, scum.

her first few posts are her working for town, and her stroking my own ego both of which are things that put me on edge, especially since she goes after them this early

I'm going to go with batshit insane, but what do I know!

....... This is so not true and you know it. I was around when the last HB game started.. Did I come out and go with this plan? No, I did not. I have been known to work for the town as town. I like this plan, it works and I see no reason not to use it.

Don't take this the wrong way, but god you suck at reading me hardcore. -_-

also!

both her and C waited for me to pull the strings RE TIP almost as if one of the two are waiting to see if we can get him mislynched this game

No, I know you can read him. I have a tendency to read him later on with gut. See: Masons&Monks.

[Cait Sith]

Mara I'm scumreading your head for not saying I'm obvtown

Ok!

I don't think you're obv town yet Science, sorry


Tammy, sure I have a hydra with Mala though she is the only partner I don't have a clear record with when it comes to reading them outside of it


Though I'm pretty sure that, when she goes straight into "working for town" she is, more so that not, scum.

her first few posts are her working for town, and her stroking my own ego both of which are things that put me on edge, especially since she goes after them this early

I'm going to go with batshit insane, but what do I know!

also!

both her and C waited for me to pull the strings RE TIP almost as if one of the two are waiting to see if we can get him mislynched this game

that like literally doesn't even make sense. But is such a stupid reason for a scum read on someone that I almost think it has to come from town.

Why did it not cross your mind that she has played in this setup before and used a method that was beneficial for town. You do realize you're the one who brought up that the hider should claim, and she linked to her experience. I was going to ask about this myself and suggest it if anyone knew the way to break the game because I knew there was a way to do it.

How did she stroke your ego? By agreeing with your idea and linking to a past experience in which it was used? I'm sorry to break this to you darling, but that is not stroking your ego.

Also, her asking for your read on TiP isn't remotely like setting up a mislynch on someone. You're literally saying she's scum because she didn't townread someone soon enough? This is exactly what I thought you voted us for, and I'm just going to. Just find a bat and see if beating myself upside the head makes this make sense.

but I'm not about to let Mala scum-up the thread and then get a town-read from me out of it

Oh I forgot to ask you about this. What the hell does this mean? Maybe my English skills are slipping but I've read it 10 times and still can't grasp the meaning of it.

The more and more I think about your posts this game they just seem really scummy, but I'd like to think that scum you would actually try to make sense, so you just have me super confused.

[Cait Sith]

Wrong.

It makes it all the easier for town to win the game. Basing the ENTIRETY of the game around ONE player is a TERRIBLE idea.

I want both teams to be on even footing, rather than stack the sides. Stacking the sides ruins the fun.

The entirety of the game is not set up up around one player. It's maximizing the use of the roles we were given. All it's going to do is give us confirmed towns or a confirmed scum. We're still going to be lynching as usual during the day, we just get to have the added benefit of using information from roles that were given to us for it.

It's not even close to stacking the sides.

[BROseidon]

Hider do not claim

DO

NOT

CLAIM

As long as people are CAREFUL around L-1's it's fine.

But you're going for a breaking mechanism which is BS

The fact DP isn't here contesting it is bugging me

Pedit ALSO MARA IM OBVTOWN AND YOU HAVE ME AS PROBS WTF

...Breaking open setups is part of playing an open setup. If you don't like using gamestate to your advantage day 1, don't play opens. Hider should claim.

[Natirasha]

The worst part is ns doesn't seem like the type of guy to care about breaking strats.

[Cephrir]

Hider do not claim

DO

NOT

CLAIM

As long as people are CAREFUL around L-1's it's fine.

But you're going for a breaking mechanism which is BS

The fact DP isn't here contesting it is bugging me

Pedit ALSO MARA IM OBVTOWN AND YOU HAVE ME AS PROBS WTF

...Breaking open setups is part of playing an open setup. If you don't like using gamestate to your advantage day 1, don't play opens. Hider should claim.

<- actually considering not playing opens in the future without seriously thinking about the setup

[Natirasha]

If it's any consolation, Cephrir, I'm only here because I was personally asked to by Syr.

[notscience]

Yeah, I'm not pro-claim.

[Mac]

11 pages maaaaan

[Sound of Silence]

ns, SD, Cait and Sounds (the GIF Half I think) should be able to say what kind of bad things happen when hider doesn't prematurely claim, and all the good things that do when he does

why me

UNVOTE:
Not voting soft claimed role.

11 pages maaaaan

hi

[1baldeagle1]

Omg, so many hydras. Can you guys sign them, because they are so confusing.

Hider should claim later, we should start pushing for lynch. I'm fine with an SD lynch. How about you guys?

[Mac]

hi!

is the consensus that the hider should claim? i think i'm for it too, cus they can't be killed, right? the plan works well enough, and it doesn't matter if we leave it 'til later.