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Post Post #325 (ISO) » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:53 am

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In post 324, Cephrir wrote:I want to see a lot more from TF and SoS today. We're not lynching anyone yet.
The game has slowed way down so I'm not finding a lot to comment on right now. I'm not going to spam the thread just to be making posts.

My big question marks at the moment are Trolling Fairy, Cait Sith and Violent Saxophone. I think it's coincidental that they are all hydrae.

Do you have questions for me/GiF?
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Post Post #326 (ISO) » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:59 am

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Question marks here meaning light scumreads?

I guess my question is "why isn't anyone trying to form a townbloc?"

Also, I don't think I have *ever* seen you not have something to say. I may need to look at Xenoblade or whatever it is.

Also, relatedly- TF, where is Cabd?
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Post Post #327 (ISO) » Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:29 am

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In post 326, Cephrir wrote:Question marks here meaning light scumreads?

I guess my question is "why isn't anyone trying to form a townbloc?"

Also, I don't think I have *ever* seen you not have something to say. I may need to look at Xenoblade or whatever it is.

Also, relatedly- TF, where is Cabd?
Right now, the players I have as pretty-solid-for-day-1 town aren't players with reads I really trust, with the exception of Mac. And he's sorted 100% without a counterclaim, and I don't expect a counterclaim. I'm more interested in figuring out players whose reads I *will* trust if they are town.

I almost always go through periods of more observation and less talk during games, even games where I wind up with absurd post counts.

Re Cabd (and Nacho for that matter), it's a holiday weekend. I'm sure they'll be around.
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Post Post #328 (ISO) » Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:31 pm

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In post 327, Sound of Silence wrote:Right now, the players I have as pretty-solid-for-day-1 town aren't players with reads I really trust, with the exception of Mac. And he's sorted 100% without a counterclaim, and I don't expect a counterclaim. I'm more interested in figuring out players whose reads I *will* trust if they are town.

I almost always go through periods of more observation and less talk during games, even games where I wind up with absurd post counts.

Re Cabd (and Nacho for that matter), it's a holiday weekend. I'm sure they'll be around.
Why not me? You trust Mac who just claimed and I claimed pages ago.
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Post Post #329 (ISO) » Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:41 pm

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In post 326, Cephrir wrote:Also, relatedly- TF, where is Cabd?
I'm here but not here-here.

Tales of Xillia being awesome, mostly. Activity here tomorrow.
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Post Post #330 (ISO) » Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:45 pm

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In post 328, 1baldeagle1 wrote:
In post 327, Sound of Silence wrote:Right now, the players I have as pretty-solid-for-day-1 town aren't players with reads I really trust, with the exception of Mac. And he's sorted 100% without a counterclaim, and I don't expect a counterclaim. I'm more interested in figuring out players whose reads I *will* trust if they are town.

I almost always go through periods of more observation and less talk during games, even games where I wind up with absurd post counts.

Re Cabd (and Nacho for that matter), it's a holiday weekend. I'm sure they'll be around.
Why not me? You trust Mac who just claimed and I claimed pages ago.
I know you essentially have free reign at this point but do you really have to keep blowing up my scumdar?
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Post Post #331 (ISO) » Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:56 pm

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It was just a question, I was curious why he only trusted one person when two people claimed in this game.
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Post Post #332 (ISO) » Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:06 pm

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Mara, I, Mala, has a slight town read on you. I find it odd that you commented on regards to Tammy's post, but didn't even bother to touch up on mine. Why's that exactly?
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Post Post #333 (ISO) » Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:27 pm

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In post 328, 1baldeagle1 wrote:
In post 327, Sound of Silence wrote:Right now, the players I have as pretty-solid-for-day-1 town aren't players with reads I really trust, with the exception of Mac. And he's sorted 100% without a counterclaim, and I don't expect a counterclaim. I'm more interested in figuring out players whose reads I *will* trust if they are town.

I almost always go through periods of more observation and less talk during games, even games where I wind up with absurd post counts.

Re Cabd (and Nacho for that matter), it's a holiday weekend. I'm sure they'll be around.
Why not me? You trust Mac who just claimed and I claimed pages ago.
I trust his READS. Yours, not so much at this point. Nothing personal, but it takes a while to build trust when it comes to reads, and part of that trust is knowing that a player knows when they are on shaky ground and when they are probably rock solid.
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Post Post #334 (ISO) » Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:28 pm

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Mac shouldn't release reads. Make it easier to scum to counter what he's thinking and makes him more killable. x.x
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Post Post #335 (ISO) » Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:32 pm

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SAIL
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Post Post #336 (ISO) » Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:32 pm

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MAYBE I SHOULD CRY FOR HELP
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Post Post #337 (ISO) » Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:33 pm

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In post 336, Trolling Fairy wrote:MAYBE I SHOULD CRY FOR HELP
What?
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Post Post #338 (ISO) » Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:36 pm

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the next line was "maybe I should kill myself" but that might worry people a little bit, so I stopped there. Hi ffery!
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Post Post #339 (ISO) » Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:40 pm

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Ah, sorry about that SoS. I misread that.
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Post Post #340 (ISO) » Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:42 pm

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In post 338, Trolling Fairy wrote:the next line was "maybe I should kill myself" but that might worry people a little bit, so I stopped there. Hi ffery!
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Post Post #341 (ISO) » Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:44 pm

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In post 318, VioleNt Saxophone wrote:No lynch until I get home Please!

this Hydra diss on me... or my slot rather, is kinda weird but it likely makes Cait town I think

UNVOTE:
In post 264, Cait Sith wrote:
In post 261, VioleNt Saxophone wrote:
In post 256, notscience wrote:Mara I'm scumreading your head for not saying I'm obvtown
Ok!

I don't think you're obv town yet Science, sorry


Tammy, sure I have a hydra with Mala though she is the only partner I don't have a clear record with when it comes to reading them outside of it


Though I'm pretty sure that, when she goes straight into "working for town" she is, more so that not, scum.

her first few posts are her working for town, and her stroking my own ego both of which are things that put me on edge, especially since she goes after them this early

I'm going to go with batshit insane, but what do I know!
In post 262, VioleNt Saxophone wrote:also!

both her and C waited for me to pull the strings RE TIP almost as if one of the two are waiting to see if we can get him mislynched this game
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that like literally doesn't even make sense. But is such a stupid reason for a scum read on someone that I almost think it has to come from town.

Why did it not cross your mind that she has played in this setup before and used a method that was beneficial for town. You do realize you're the one who brought up that the hider should claim, and she linked to her experience. I was going to ask about this myself and suggest it if anyone knew the way to break the game because I knew there was a way to do it.

How did she stroke your ego? By agreeing with your idea and linking to a past experience in which it was used? I'm sorry to break this to you darling, but that is not stroking your ego.

Also, her asking for your read on TiP isn't remotely like setting up a mislynch on someone. You're literally saying she's scum because she didn't townread someone soon enough? This is exactly what I thought you voted us for, and I'm just going to. Just find a bat and see if beating myself upside the head makes this make sense.
Welcome to the world of Mara logic I guess?

The first hard-boiled game, she was hider and I don't recall her doing what she is doing this game.

She wants to give all hider-claiming cred to me. I read that as stroking my own ego, especially since no one ever gives me cred even when it's due

and TIP is more her waiting to see what I say before she does anything to him, even though I've stated something before she asked
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but I'm not about to let Mala scum-up the thread and then get a town-read from me out of it
Oh I forgot to ask you about this. What the hell does this mean? Maybe my English skills are slipping but I've read it 10 times and still can't grasp the meaning of it.

The more and more I think about your posts this game they just seem really scummy, but I'd like to think that scum you would actually try to make sense, so you just have me super confused.
It means that We've never played a game as town together, and every game I have played with her when I was town she does something incredibly scummy, yet I read her as town for some insane reason and I don't want to do that this game
Freaking kiddin' me right?

1) Okay I'm playing differently. We understand that, but you are completely ingoring the fact I was around for the HD#2 right as it began and I did not do what I'm doing here. So this = null tell.

2) No, but thank you for taking it the wrong way. You were totally "Said Hider should claim" and people asked why and I answered it for you. No I wasn't stroking anyone's ego, but call it that if you like.

3) Lies. Freaking bullcrap lies. I can freaking read TiP myself, thank you very much. Why get all paranoid now. I know you can read him better than I can because I have seen it first hand. (Yes, I stalked the game) I promise you, I don't need you to hold my hand before I make a read. I'm a big girl now. (Couldn't resist)

4) This is false. FALSE FALSE FALSE. I'm doing something incredibly scummy and you are reading me town?.. Oh wait, I did something incredibly
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and you reading me as scummy. Yes, you do have an awesome track record of reading me wrong and this is very much included. Only game you read me correctly was the second game I linked (I forgot if you read me right or wrong in GoW and I'm too lazy to check). Every-time I was scum though you have read me wrong.
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Post Post #342 (ISO) » Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:47 pm

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In post 332, Cait Sith wrote:Mara, I, Mala, has a slight town read on you. I find it odd that you commented on regards to Tammy's post, but didn't even bother to touch up on mine. Why's that exactly?
Is this directed at me? Sorry, so many fucking hydras I get confused.

Can we call each other by our hydra names so it's less confusing? Thanks?
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Post Post #343 (ISO) » Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:50 pm

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In post 340, Sound of Silence wrote:
In post 338, Trolling Fairy wrote:the next line was "maybe I should kill myself" but that might worry people a little bit, so I stopped there. Hi ffery!
Hi nacho! Your avatar is awesome. Bardic even.
i'm seriously loving this avatar but syr and cabd didn't like it that much, which makes me seriously seriously sad.
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Post Post #344 (ISO) » Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:55 pm

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In post 343, Trolling Fairy wrote:
In post 340, Sound of Silence wrote:
In post 338, Trolling Fairy wrote:the next line was "maybe I should kill myself" but that might worry people a little bit, so I stopped there. Hi ffery!
Hi nacho! Your avatar is awesome. Bardic even.
i'm seriously loving this avatar but syr and cabd didn't like it that much, which makes me seriously seriously sad.
So what are your thoughts about the game?
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Post Post #345 (ISO) » Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:11 pm

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In post 7, TheIrishPope wrote:I'm claiming now
I'm a VT
Anyone else who claims VT is added to my townblock
I love this playerlist
Now that I don't have to deal with the "new TiP" anymore, I can pretty cleanly read him as town for now.
In post 29, SalmonellaDoctor wrote:Why did Shodan and SoS not RVS?
ffery head of SoS rarely RVSes. That was Shodan's version of RVS, however.
In post 54, Cephrir wrote:In other news I am considering attempting to metashift with this game, though I doubt I would actually succeed and would probably revert to my old ways within a few posts. I would really love to not get lynched this game, win or lose.
Town read on you for this post, although I wonder why you choose this game to attempt the metashift and what exactly you're doing with it.

BRO's open is pretty solid. I like his stance on TiP's claim in particular.
In post 155, Cephrir wrote:FTR, looks like I don't have the balls to attempt a metashift. Maybe next time.
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In post 227, Cephrir wrote:Does the hider plan still make sense with our psychologist out? I mean, we could just agree to speedlynch any derphammers or have claims at L-2. I advocate doing this today even if we do want the hider to claim late in the day.
Why wouldn't hider plan make sense with the psychologist out?
In post 235, Cait Sith wrote:Also, if you can figure out why I have a gut scum read on you from this post, bonus points to you even if you're not town
If it has to do with the discussion we had about getting your foot in the door as scum, then I'd guess that you got a gut scumread on me specifically coming in to check on this game. If it doesn't, you're probably just jealous that I was showing up for Cabd but not fot you.
In post 261, VioleNt Saxophone wrote:Ok!

I don't think you're obv town yet Science, sorry
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In post 325, Sound of Silence wrote:My big question marks at the moment are Trolling Fairy, Cait Sith and Violent Saxophone.
What's your read on NS?

Vote: Shodan


I'm pretty happy with Sax, TiP, SD, CS, and SoS right now.
I lean town on Ceph, BRO.

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Post Post #346 (ISO) » Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:18 pm

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Re: metashift: I'm not going to talk about the direction yet because I might still do it. Suffice to say I've been waiting for a town role PM though.

Re: hider plan: I didn't really have a reason for that question, just figured those who have played the setup before might go on autopilot and not consider the ramifications of the specific situation.

Good entrance, was starting to get paranoid.
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Post Post #347 (ISO) » Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:20 pm

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In post 345, Trolling Fairy wrote:What's your read on NS?
So far, thinking he's town. GiF agreed when we talked earlier today.
Vote: Shodan

I'm pretty happy with Sax, TiP, SD, CS, and SoS right now.
I lean town on Ceph, BRO.
I haven't got the back and forth between Sax and CS sorted atm. Hence question marks

I like the Dreams part of SD. The DP part set off a few alarms. We decided to put our vote there.

TiP is probtown.

Ceph pushing me for not spamming up the thread yet is null, I think. But, I have other reasons to lean kinda town. Agree on bro.
Bert doesn't feel like his normal sweet self quite yet.
Agree. GiF thought pressure at this point in time might make it harder to get a decent read, though. So, I'm in wait and see mode.
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Post Post #348 (ISO) » Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:23 pm

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TF gets a scumread for not saying I'm obvtown
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Post Post #349 (ISO) » Mon Sep 02, 2013 6:02 pm

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In post 348, notscience wrote:TF gets a scumread for not saying I'm obvtown
Yeah yeah whatevs.
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