Xenogears Mafia (Game Over)

[BROseidon]

Ghostlin is awesome.
Desp not so much.

Yo, Ghostlin. Can I have a reads list from ya, again? I think we can synch them together at this point. 'Specially given that you're apparently calling out Desp and I'm doing much the same.

It makes me sad that you don't want to work with me, because I want to work with you

[nickthename]

I think BROseidon is starstruck or something.

[BROseidon]

He has a similar approach that I do, so there's value in working together to calibrate an overarching theory of the game.

[Faster Than Light]

Took a nap, came back, got a vote on me.

Desp, good luck with where you're coming from on that. I'm a PR called

Unlynchable D2 Townie

who, when given the hammer, kills the person leading their wagon (like a reverse supersaint) and then revives on D3.


<3 you, Ghostlin.

This game's been slowing down. If this Nick wagon's going to putter out, we need to put some steam into some scum hunting.
Glad to see BRO posting, though. What's up, dude?


-V

[BROseidon]

Not much. Should be doing some interview-prep work because on-campus recruiting starts basically when I start school, but really don't want to >.>

Your PR only applies to day 2?

[Faster Than Light]

The flavor is really great, too. I'm Child Emeralda, but if the town goes on a side-quest and I get lynched on D2 (Disk 2, hahah), then I 'grow up' and become Adult Emeralda, which has a different PR, I imagine.


...

BRO, it's a joke.
I wish that's what I could do.

-V

[BROseidon]

lollllllllll.

That gives me an interesting idea for a setup concept. brb writing it down in my game design notebook.

[Faster Than Light]

Hah, glad I could help.

BRO, could you give your thoughts on the current Nick wagon?
What do you think could be good alternatives? Why?

-V

[BROseidon]

I still like the nick wagon. The amount of pushing BnB had to do to get the wagon off the ground, despite plenty of people nominally calling nick scum, is suspect. His jump onto my wagon in response to TF's reaction-test stunk. His read list is meh; it's a lot of regurgitating what other people have said, and it's incredibly hedged (a lot of "seem" and "feel" type language).

Best alternative is Mala wagon. I think they're hard-bussing at this point because their both caught, because holy fuck Mala has not done a single town-thing this game. The way she tried to derail the Rach wagon yesterday was beyond horrific. Venmar is also a good alternative because he did much of the same bullshit with the Rach wagon.

[Faster Than Light]

Those are most of my D2 reasons for keeping my vote where it is--mostly the BnB push, although it was awkward when BnB put their vote elsewhere for awhile.
It was strange, because Nick resigned to just get lynched at one point, then he got his head back in the game, but only to be snarky and push a Mala counterwagon. Of course, the post where he provided reads was good, but I think it's fishy as fuck that he's appealing to the same Logic that BnB was in order to get him lynched.


I'm really not feeling Mala's play. I understand where Mala was coming from on D1, but, again, resignation doesn't fly very well with me, and D2's been making me more and more wary of the slot. Last I talked to MS, he was sure that Mala was town, though, and he explained a few meta points and so on that had me understand why he'd think so. Ultimately, our hydra wouldn't support a Mala lynch, as we're sure that Nick is scum here. If it is a hard bus, as you think, the posting similarities (resignation, quips, and pushing hard on popular wagons). How do you feel about Mala's vote on you?

-V

[Faster Than Light]

If it was down to what player's I (varsoon) would rather keep around, it'd be Nick, because he's a cool guy and has proven he can do work when he needs to. Plus, he played cat-and-dog with me.

However, there's a lot of evidence that's making me read him as scum, and I'm not comfortable with my vote being anywhere else at this point in the game.

-V

[BROseidon]

Her vote on me was at first a blatant sheep, and then she proceeded to call the wagon that formed on her "counter" to mine despite the fact that everyone on it had scumread her for a while.

So here's roughly what I think about it:

[nickthename]

then he got his head back in the game, but only to be snarky and push a Mala counterwagon.

<3 You're definitely not the first person to call me snarky.

Of course, the post where he provided reads was good, but I think it's fishy as fuck that he's appealing to the same Logic that BnB was in order to get him lynched.

In my reasons why I think Mala is scum, that's rather low down, but it is a reason. Fishy as fuck? You be the judge.

[BROseidon]

Malakittens- Lots of people calling her scum, but no wagon ever appeared. Suspicious. Her thing about why she hasn't she been lynched yet? Suspicious. The push on FTL is really bad, reminds me of the push on me here, where she was scum. Promised comment in 3088, but it just didn't happen, and it feels like her last few posts are just to say that she's posting. Also, I don't understand 3118 at all. Does she think i'm town? If that's the case, why didn't she say anything? What's the point there?

And yet you put that point first. Also, what about her push on FTL reminds you of her push on you in the other game?

[Faster Than Light]

Solid. That sheep is what put her way scummier for me, but I don't really think anyone else noticed it/really made a big deal out of it, so I thought maybe I was going crazy when it happened.

The problem with the Mala wagon for me is that it's not kosher with my other head, Mala's play has been all over the map and I've been reading her as town for a long time now, and Mala feels a bit too distant from the game right now. In regards to Nick, Mala's flip doesn't give any worth-a-shit info. If she's scum, I could easily see it as a bus (I still think people were bussing Rach) and if she's town, I definitely wouldn't be getting any good vibes from Nick.

Red Baron deep dish singles fucking rock, man.
Nick, <3. It tears me up that you're scum, mein bro.

-V

[Faster Than Light]

Brainstorming gambits.
Gotta talk to MS and get him on the same page as me.

Nick, if I could do a little gambit with you, would you be up for it?

[Faster Than Light]

Promise it won't get us both Modkilled. I swear.
Also, it doesn't involve any PRs, just person-to-person honesty and goodness. :3

-V

[BROseidon]

Promise it won't get us both Modkilled. I swear.
Also, it doesn't involve any PRs, just person-to-person honesty and goodness. :3

-V

Why don't I believe this

[Faster Than Light]

BRO, butt out!
But you can be a jury one it, mwahahah~

-V

[nickthename]

Brainstorming gambits.
Gotta talk to MS and get him on the same page as me.

Nick, if I could do a little gambit with you, would you be up for it?

Sure. I'm currently writing up a case on Mala, so i'll be around.

[Malakittens]

@ghosty

why do you think mala is scum?

Day 1 is full of more of her hyper aggressive defense and pushing much of no one.

Day 2 is her doing fuck all passively while we try to hang her.

As a third reason, Day 1's vibe and Day 2's vibe are not congruent with a townie who's had fuck all with a frustrating, pointless town. Granted, I rage at everything, but there's no meltdown. It's more 'meh, whatever. You want to lynch me? I'm good with that.' Generally there's a meltdown or something before someone reaches that fucking phase.

Please do go meta me before you post shit like this, thanks.

[nickthename]

Please do go meta me before you post shit like this, thanks.

If you want us to meta you, you're going to have to do the work. Show us some other games and say how that makes you town, I do not have the time to go through all your games.

[Malakittens]

yes. we are gonna have to sort mastin too. I said I would him leave him be until d3 to get busy and so far I am underwhelmed.

mebbe we need to do a bit of dancing.

Mastin is town, leave him alone.

Oops, forgot.

VOTE: Mala

Nice 180 and to boot the only wagon that could be a counter to yours. gj.

bye show time.

[Faster Than Light]

Brainstorming gambits.
Gotta talk to MS and get him on the same page as me.

Nick, if I could do a little gambit with you, would you be up for it?

Sure. I'm currently writing up a case on Mala, so i'll be around.

Fuckin' awesome.

As soon as MS agrees he'll keep his fingers out of it (he sometimes doesn't understand what my motives are), we'll go ahead with it.
It'll be able to actually confirm a few people one way or another, methinks.

NACHO.

I need you to be a part of my gambit, too.
Can you?
Please?


Mala, can you do more work than being incendiary towards Nick and telling people to Meta you? I know, I know, that's what

I did

in games before this one, but I was being super ironic about it. D: It got me 2-week-banned, too.

[Faster Than Light]

Also, Mala, Life

is

Showtime.