Mini 1489 - VisCon: Murder at Wingate Mansion [Game Over]

[Empire]

I want you to look at the choice words I use when defending Qwints, look at the strength of my defense, compared to the D1 defense of my sisters and ask yourself how one could get that strength of a read

ROLE INFORMATION

THANK YOU AT LEAST ONE FUCKING PLAYER IN THIS GAME ACTUALLY CAN READ BETWEEN THE FUCKING LINES

[Bert]

this is definitely the worst softclaim ever

YOUR AVATAR IS BACK!!! YEEHAW YEE DOGGIE MAH MAN IS BACK <33333333333

LOVEEEEEEEEEEE YOOUR CLASSIC AVIEEEE

OK NOW TELL ME

what's the softclaim here or is it secret

Bert just drank a Coke after class and is scouring the thread for any indication as to WHY I should TRUST anyone in that neighborhood, whoever may be in that neighborhood

Love, BERT

P-edit: DONT YOU CAPS LOCK ME

COP? JUST COME OUT AND FRIGGIN SAY IT <3

[Bert]

EBWOP: Generic already kinda asked Mara about that already, and Mara didn't confirm/deny it...

WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL

[Tammy]

I want you to look at the choice words I use when defending Qwints, look at the strength of my defense, compared to the D1 defense of my sisters and ask yourself how one could get that strength of a read

ROLE INFORMATION

THANK YOU AT LEAST ONE FUCKING PLAYER IN THIS GAME ACTUALLY CAN READ BETWEEN THE FUCKING LINES

ANYONE CAN READ BETWEEN THE LIINES. I. DON'T. TRUST. YOUR. NEIGHBORHODD.

[projectmatt]

Tammy - please help me out here. I understand that you do not trust the neighborhood but at the moment do you have any actual grounded reads in regards to them or just paranoia?

[quote="In post 1297, Bert"

Also, my GUT (for inexplicable reasons) does not like projectmatt's catchup post above. Will you all please look at it[/quote]

I would like to hear any rationale for anything that is bothering for you in that post if you can work out anything than gut.

P-EDIT: This game is already starting to infuriate me.

[Bert]

ANYONE CAN READ BETWEEN THE LIINES. I. DON'T. TRUST. YOUR. NEIGHBORHODD.

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU

<33333333

Tammy you have received MUCH FONDNESS from BERT

<33333333333

[Tammy]

Because seriously if you're a mason neigbhorhood, I don't see the scum team being anyone but nacho/projectmatt now, with and outside chance of inte. And that doesn't make sense to me.

[Nachomamma8]

I want you to look at the choice words I use when defending Qwints, look at the strength of my defense, compared to the D1 defense of my sisters and ask yourself how one could get that strength of a read

ROLE INFORMATION

THANK YOU AT LEAST ONE FUCKING PLAYER IN THIS GAME ACTUALLY CAN READ BETWEEN THE FUCKING LINES

ANYONE CAN READ BETWEEN THE LIINES. I. DON'T. TRUST. YOUR. NEIGHBORHODD.

why aren't you voting shadoweh with me

[Bert]

I would like to hear any rationale for anything that is bothering for you in that post if you can work out anything than gut.

I already told you it gives me bad gut vibes and I'm trying to figure out why, hence why I used the word "inexplicable." And I'm asking stronger and much more experienced scumhunters to help give feedback and assuage me if possible.

[Tammy]

And if you're a mason neighborhood there's no reason not to out it, because we can lynch through the rest, good game.

[projectmatt]

I would like to hear any rationale for anything that is bothering for you in that post if you can work out anything than gut.

I already told you it gives me bad gut vibes and I'm trying to figure out why, hence why I used the word "inexplicable." And I'm asking stronger and much more experienced scumhunters to help give feedback and assuage me if possible.

Right, I was just curious if you had anything logical at all so I would be able to elaborate for you but I'm presuming not.

[Bert]

VOTE: SHADOWEH

HALLELUJAH FREAKIN BABY

LET'S GO <3 WAGON THIS SCUM TO PLANET OF MUCHO SHADOWS

[Empire]

Because seriously if you're a mason neigbhorhood, I don't see the scum team being anyone but nacho/projectmatt now, with and outside chance of inte. And that doesn't make sense to me.

We are not a fucking mason neighborhood, jesus christ. Why do you think Shadoweh and I haven't unequivocably read each other as town (though we both think that way, it's clear from our posts that we don't *know* it for sure)?

[Nachomamma8]

And if you're a mason neighborhood there's no reason not to out it, because we can lynch through the rest, good game.

they are not a mason neighborhood
mara has an innocent on qwints

[Empire]

Look, I'm going to let Marangal deal with this how she wants because it's her thing. The bottom line is that our Neighborhood is very, very weird.

[Nachomamma8]

Empire, why are you townreading Shadoweh?

[Empire]

Empire, why are you townreading Shadoweh?

It's a bunch of other stuff that I really don't want to get into at this time (though I will say that it has nothing to do with my role or hers). After Marangal says what she has to say, then I'll speak.

I already feel fucking awful for blowing up but I just wasn't in the mood to deal with this shit after the Xenologue game.

[projectmatt]

Nacho, tell me why I should vote Shadoweh if you want her to be lynched.

I was actually feeling pretty confident with my reads circa ten minutes ago and now there's an entire dynamic that I haven't paid enough attention to that's making me second guess things. Moronic.

[Nachomamma8]

I was actually feeling pretty confident with my reads circa ten minutes ago and now there's an entire dynamic that I haven't paid enough attention to that's making me second guess things. Moronic.

Do you still scumread Shadoweh?

[projectmatt]

I don't know, tell me why I should.

[Tammy]

Empire, why are you townreading Shadoweh?

It's a bunch of other stuff that I really don't want to get into at this time (though I will say that it has nothing to do with my role or hers). After Marangal says what she has to say, then I'll speak.

I already feel fucking awful for blowing up but I just wasn't in the mood to deal with this shit after the Xenologue game.

yeah, I followed that game and watched mara get manipulated like hell in the neighborhood, forgive me for not just trusting what she says about her neighbors this time.

And you guys clamming up about your neighborhood isn't helping the game at all. I don't want what happened in xeno to happen here, and you guys just shutting down any conversation about the people in your neighborhood isn't helping. If you're all town, we need to know why because we need to start looking elsewhere if so.

[Generic]

Right now I have strong opinions of belief in tammy as town. Her sarcastic frustrations about other neighbourhood I can relate to from my own way of reacting to things. If she flips scum in this game it will break my heart so I am auto clearing her to start doing what matt suggested I should and put some effort in again.

On matt, loved the analysis, absolutely nailed it on a few people specifically (qwints slot in particular).
You are probably right on nacho, but he is this sites version if Iso to me (those who use mtgs will know Iso I'm sure) and they are the sort of guys I hate letting lead the line and then flip scum... Bert got me paranoid, and he is snother I want to trust but find myself not doing do on gut instinct.

Mara is either scum or dead, I don't care which simply because of all the cryptic bullshit.

I'm with tammy, your group needs to start answering things or I will rally behind the rest of the 'outsiders' and we will lynch one of ya for our own answers.

Matt, if you are town I look forward to future games with you as town reading me, and I mean proper townreading without doubting it, is not at all easy because my moods give off scummy play as I go regularly. If you are scum then I hate you for using me as a pawn in the tactic you are vs biting at this time

Qwints, shadoweh, mara, purple shoe... One to two scum here.

Nacho, bert... So want to clear as town but have this major headache about how sneaky these bastards could be.

Empire, matt... Want to say town, need to be clearing people to narrow down the lynch options.

Tammy... My town mayor. If I ever struggle to analyse anyone with clarity for a lynch or start getting lazy I'm sheeping this lady to game end...

[Empire]

Tammy, it is not a matter of getting manipulated or whatever. We are talking role related information here. There's no gray area.

[Tammy]

FINE

UNVOTE: /unvote]
VOTE: shadoweh

[Empire]

Also, Shadoweh's at L-2 right now and I'm about to head out for the night, so if we could please not run her up before this gets sorted out (well, I'd prefer her not getting run up period), that would be pretty phenomenal.