Mini 1489 - VisCon: Murder at Wingate Mansion [Game Over]

[Tammy]

qwintz:

Is Marangal also confirmed town to you?

Yes.

If that's the case, why didn't you have her as town in you're preliminary list?

[qwints]

This is because I yelled at you, isn't it. -_- We could have been a four person mason team. Instead you're a huge jerk.

There's a whole lot of dumb going on in this thread. Mara claimed to us Night 0 about her role and confirming qwintz's slot as town. Looking back since the slot was cycling in and out no one from the slot confirmed back, though qwintz said he saw 'his role had already been explained.' If we're just outting it in thread it's as simple as asking him.

qwintz:

Is Marangal also confirmed town to you?

Because there was nothing to be gained by breadcrumbing her given our roles.

[Tammy]

If you're meaning to reply to me, there everything to gain.

Mind voting for nacho?

[Ms Marangal]

Tammy, do you really think that, with a poisoner, we have an SK

and then, do you really think that Nacho is scum with Desp and decided to hard push him at the last moment when he had a sexy fucking Shoe lynch ready to happen?

[The Purple Shoe]

I am a sexy shoe.

Lynches on me however will never happen. I am too cool for that

[Generic]

I'm not voting nacho until I hear his claim. and that is on the clock because he has a habit of [redacted]

I want the following claims in this order:

Nacho
Purple shoe
Shadoweh
Inte
Tammy
Empire.

Simple as that, tammy lost a lot of town credit with me for her tantrum refusal to claim AT ALL

[The Purple Shoe]

we are mass claiming?

I love mass claims

[Generic]

Feel free to go before nacho shoe. At present you suck big time so please try and restore some faith.

[Nachomamma8]

I'm just a lowly servant boy.

Matt goes next!

[Generic]

One thing will be clear, one of the servant claims is looking likely to be a fake claim.

Three of us already...

[Bert]

@Generic: my gut is strongly feeling Nacho as scum in this game now

Hey Nacho

Scumbag

Hey

How about talking to Tammy and addressing her since she's voting you instead of ignoring

[Bert]

EBWOP:

did you notice that nacho is still ignoring that i'm voting for him and that if you all are clear, he's probably scum? what do you think of that?

[Generic]

Hey nacho, are you aware tammy is voting for you?

How do you feel about that?

If you were stuck in the Antarctic with a harpoon, a hunting knife and a rope, but you can only take one item, which do you choose?

[qwints]

If you're meaning to reply to me, there everything to gain.

I suppose there's a lylo scenario where it might matter, but the scenario I normally think of with masons is the remaining mason pointing to a breadcrumb to verify their claim after one mason flips. That can't happen here.

[The Purple Shoe]

I'm just a lowly servant boy.

Matt goes next!

How do you know my name?

[Tammy]

Sorry for my tantrum last night. It was just really frustrating that when we finally were going to get some cooperation from the neighborhood it got shot down. Generic, I didn't refuse to claim AT ALL, I was refusing to claim in the situation where only a portion of the town was claiming. I'm not overly happy with the idea of a massclaim in the first place.

Also shadoweh shold have let us know she had been poisoned and would be dead by the end of the day. She didn't need to tell us by who, but that should have been information that was shared. Also this will be moot because it will be clear by end of day anyway, but Mara not dying doesn't clear shadoweh. It would have brought suspicion on her to kill Mara anyway. The only reason Mara would have died that night would have been because of her role which was only known in the neighborhood so it would have led right back there.

As far as whether or not an sk would exist with a poisoner, I have no idea. I wouldn't also expect the poisoner to be a mason lover. As far as nacho bussing? Idk, but I don't like his lack of reaction to Bert voting him or me. I would have expected something, but nothing.

[Nachomamma8]

Hi Tammy.

[Nachomamma8]

I have absolutely no idea why you're voting me. I can't defend against not dropping my town tell yet unless you tell me what it is.

[Generic]

Sounds like you made the same assumption I did tammy... I don't think they made the decision as a group to kill shadoweh, by his/her reaction I get the impression they have also just found out about it like us.

[Nachomamma8]

Then I'll drop it for you.

[Generic]

Was the poisoning one shot?

[Empire]

Sorry for my tantrum last night. It was just really frustrating that when we finally were going to get some cooperation from the neighborhood it got shot down. Generic, I didn't refuse to claim AT ALL, I was refusing to claim in the situation where only a portion of the town was claiming. I'm not overly happy with the idea of a massclaim in the first place.

I'm not a great fan of massclaiming early either but I felt that was the best option given the game state and what we could stand to gain from it. Just please don't impute the behavior of one of us to the entire Neighborhood.
Remind me at some point to summarize the QT (it's not particularly interesting now that you know Marangal's claim but there might be something important I'm overlooking?).

As far as Nacho goes, Tammy, I honestly just don't even know any more. I need to give him another reread when I have a clear head but he looked town to me the last I checked. Maybe we're overlooking someone else?

As far as whether or not an sk would exist with a poisoner, I have no idea. I wouldn't also expect the poisoner to be a mason lover.

The problem is that you have potentially four deaths in one day/night cycle if Desperado is an SK and Marangal is town (lynch + poison + scum NK + SK NK). In a Large I could buy that, but in a Mini? I find that very very doubtful and is a big reason I'm leaning towards Desperado being factional scum.

I'm down for claiming whenever, just give me the signal.

[projectmatt]

I'm just a lowly servant boy.

Matt goes next!

Servant.

My temptation to vote Nacho is actually growing mildly but I still feel like something really isn't right and the amount of people in this game I can trust as town in a dependable way our starting to dwindle.

I want a claim from Inte or Tammy, right now.

[Nachomamma8]

Which one?

[Tammy]

I'm running out for a bit so can't comment on anything until then, but I'd really like to go last. Or if not last, I'm only partial claiming until everyone else goes.

Also, inte should be due for a prod or a replacement if he's not going to so a damn thing, and we have no way of knowing if hell actually claim if he shows up seeing as how he ignored it in the neighborhood.

He back in a little bit.