Xenogears Mafia (Game Over)

[Andrius]

if you want to dance, lets dance

HOW TO DANCE THE DANCE:
1) lynch me
2) I dance
dance complete

[Andrius]

dear mollie

i don't understand this sliding room thing
and i don't understand how the d1 counterwagon to scum isn't town
but seeing as how my death will literally be the only thing that confirms me i am more than willing to acquiesce

i gave you the chance D1 and you turned me down
why did you let me get this far if you still have doubts when

i gave you an out and you refused it?

-Andy

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

dear andy

I think 2 scum can be run up who are on the same team.

shocker but I do.

"get this far"?

it is d2 ffs.

is that why you read me in particular as scummy? really?

nacho has you as town and I am losing faith every time you post.

[zMuffinMan]

and Muffin moved.

i did? where was i before and why did i move?

You're missing a few things with this claim.

to be fair, the lack of character claim probably has nothing to do with his alignment, given scum prob have fake character claims anyway.

[nickthename]

I'm town. Way to go. I gave you every fucking opportunity to stop and realize lynching me didn't make sense, but seems like everyone just sheeped people who didn't listen.

My reads are pretty much the same as what I posted last, except FTL is town, and Mala is only about as scummy as nacho and mac, I exaggerated that read, and nacho is actually probably a better lynch, although Varsoon's thing might still give something on that, idk. All three of them seem pretty scum.

@Majiffy You better get some damn good reads off this.

@Varsoon You tried your hardest to keep me alive and lynch scum instead, and I just couldn't hold up my end of the bargin, sorry bro. If you can still get something or other out of your gambit that would be sweet, too bad no one listened.

@Mala Talk more pls.

@Venmar When you say something, try to talk on something that might help town in there. It pays off in the end.

@Desperado Your questions and analysis seem pretty poignant, and your treatment of my wagon was intelligent, I just wish you talked more.

@Notscience You are absolutely worthless and degrade the quality of this game. Seriously. This is a game where the players have to make the game fun for eachother, and you utterly failed. Please don't play like this again, and please don't play with me again.

@SoS sorry u ded

@Metal sonic Honestly, I could never figure out what you were saying, so dunno.

@Mastin You're probably town. You're also way too full of yourself. Your reads are also pretty good.

@BnB and Aj http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

@zMuffin You seem like you're a pretty good player, but you need to like, be more involved, man. Push things, yell at people! I recommend it, it's invigorating.

@Muttley Don't be such a sheep. That said, nice vig kill.

@Saki Read my @notscience, but fit it to yourself a little bit more.

@Mollie I won't be mad at you for this is if you win this for town, deal?

@Andrius You seem like a pretty cool guy, on the whole.

inb4 this is all fluff

inb4 I'm obv caught scum flailing

Reads: (inb4 manufactured as fuck) Some are new, some are from my last reads post.

Town

:

Mutleyddmc

-I like his vig kill and it seemed genuine

BeautyAndTheBeast

- They need to get their shit together, but they seem pretty townie in their involvement.

notscience

- duh

nickthename

- duh

mastin2

- All in all, i'm liking him. He's probably going to get night-killed, but i'm liking him.

Trust Fund

- The claim and gambit thing seemed town, and the rest of their play has seemed fairly townie.

zMuffinMan

-His treatment of my wagon could conceivably be scum distancing themself from a mislynch, that said, it reminds me of my own play around wagons I don't understand. I think he's town, mainly because his emotions feel very real, and not something scum would fake.

Faster Than Light

-He seems very town now, and I really like his play. No one seems to listen to him, which is annoying, but whatever.

Null-Town

:

Aj The Epic

- I really didn't like his push on me, it felt kinda manufactured, although the split push on me and Mala seems kinda town, so dunno.

Desperado

- The lack of real recent activity is worrying, he needs to get his head in the game, or maybe he's just scum lurking. Give him a little pressure and maybe this will clear up.

BROseidon

- I'm liking his more recent content, although he feels a little....restrained, maybe? I dunno, kinda seems like i'm not seeing all he's thinking.

Null

:

TiphaineDeath

- He's just not saying anything in a way that's putting me a bit on edge. That said, he feels like very easy lynchbait for scum to push, so i'd watch out when wagons appear on him.

Andrius

- Soft claimed a PR and didn't get night-killed, which is a little iffy, and his treatment of Rach felt a tad bit bussy to me. His play-style is hard for me to read, but it seems kinda towny? I don't really know. He's not at all transparent, maybe mollie will be able to weedle something out of him.

Everyone else:

(From least to most scummy)

Venmar

-I'm not seeing enough involved content here, which is concerning. I'm worried he might be just sitting on his claim and just making short posts to avoid getting a second glance. That said, I don't think he's a very good early game lynch.

Ghostlin

- He doesn't push Rach much but jumps on her wagon at the very end, which is alarming. His day 2 stuff his been a bit better.

Mac

-He just goes with the flow a little

too

hard. Also, the fact that no pressure seems to be on him at all is a bit worrying, I think he may just be hiding in the BnB townread.

Nachomamm8

- I'm not going to retread over all of what mastin said in 2815, but Rach's treatment of Nacho was very bad. Also, he votes Rach in 995 but then unvotes in 1432, and I can't find any explanation for either. I don't like his treatment of her, and I don't like her treatment of him. No one seems to hold him accountable for anything he does, which is very very bad.

Malakittens

-The push on FTL was really bad, and I didn't like how it seemed people were ignoring what I said about her. She's also extremely inactive, which is very annoying, she seems to be hiding behind my lynch.

D2 twin wagons on Mala and Nacho would be sweet, although maybe Varsoon will be able to confirm their alignments, which would be even better.

I honestly don't understand at all why people accused my lack of posting recently as scummy, it just doesn't make sense. What the hell would I get out of doing that, especially when Rach just got lynched for that, and it's clearly leading to people thinking i'm scum? That really makes no sense at all, and I wish you people would think a little before you push. The ignorance of the far better option of lynching Mala first is dumb, but I think the fact that the townleader BnB just utterly dismissed it, out of what comes across to me as pride in his own reading ability, but idk, contributed to that a lot.

I leave at 6:30 and get home and 5, so maybe you guys can understand how I might be too tired to write up a long case? I guess not.

[nickthename]

You're missing a few things with this claim.

to be fair, the lack of character claim probably has nothing to do with his alignment, given scum prob have fake character claims anyway.

Oh, he wanted character too? I didn't quite follow.

Here ya go, although scum almost certainly have fake flavor claims, so whatever.
Maria Balthasar, Vanilla Townie

you said a few things, you want anything else while i'm here?

[nickthename]

I could post my character picture too, although I figure you can google that for yourself.

[zMuffinMan]

that would be a dumb idea that will most likely get you modkilled for quoting role PM and i wouldn't put it past the mod to give scum fake-claims that have pictures, so it wouldn't prove anything

[Andrius]

I think 2 scum can be run up who are on the same team

and yet you refused my offer

"get this far"?
it is d2 ffs.

yes but you want me dead
i offered you an out
you declined, calling me town as you did it

is that why you read me in particular as scummy? really?

i have other reasons

nacho has you as town and I am losing faith every time you post.

thats ok because i dont think you ever saw me as town and even if the rest of the game called me obvtown you still wouldn't believe it
its k though
how about this

Vote: Andrius

i will give you the same offer as yesterday
lynch me under one condition and i shall give you what you want
or
is it because you are getting my rather obvious hints
that you DONT want to lynch me
because you cant trust me?

i did? where was i before and why did i move?

you were in the TOWN BECAUSE RACHMARIE category, which i have since removed
you are in leaning town now
so not a big change

to be fair, the lack of character claim probably has nothing to do with his alignment, given scum prob have fake character claims anyway.

obviously, but there's no reason not to do it as town

@Andrius You seem like a pretty cool guy, on the whole.

thanks

He's not at all transparent, maybe mollie will be able to weedle something out of him.

how the hell am i NOT being transparent?
i want out of this game
most of you want me out of this game
and yet you're unwilling to do so

[Andrius]

you lynch me now
you wait at L-1 so i can tell you what is going to happen
and then i make it happen

no gambits
nothing fancy
just straight up lets fucking stop with the bullshit
and get this moving again

[Andrius]

If you're so confident in this, mollie, will you dance with me?

[Andrius]

And we have 5 days to deadline so anyone who doesn't post by then should be drawn quartered and shot.

[Andrius]

Be right back going to start on my keg.

[zMuffinMan]

obviously, but there's no reason not to do it as town

there's equally no reason not to do it as scum. :/

why do you think nick is scum?

[Andrius]

if you follow my lead we can know for sure

[nickthename]

that would be a dumb idea that will most likely get you modkilled for quoting role PM and i wouldn't put it past the mod to give scum fake-claims that have pictures, so it wouldn't prove anything

Hence why I didn't, good call.

@Andius

You want to be wagonned? Why? I just don't follow.

[Andrius]

because i will die
and be removed from the game
and i can confirm someone as i leave

[Andrius]

shit gets real
mollie is nowhere to be seen

ask her to dance
she ignores me

man this is going to be another great deadline lynch isn't it

[zMuffinMan]

assuming your entire scum list is town, who would you want to vote today, andy? (you cannot say yourself)

[nickthename]

If you want to leave, why not just replace? And why do you want to leave? This is a cool game. I want to stay. We should like trade.

[Faster Than Light]

NICK.
DAT CLAIM IS ALL I NEED TO MOVE TO PHASE 2~

NACHO, GIVE ME A FULL CLAIM.

-V

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

andy do you want me to vote you

cos I don't understand what you are doing here and I really wish I did.

eta: I am not ignoring you!

[Nachomamma8]

NACHO, GIVE ME A FULL CLAIM.

Allow me to channel Majiffy:
No.

[Faster Than Light]

NACHO, GIVE ME A FULL CLAIM.

Allow me to channel Majiffy:
No.

I can confirm your alignment, though.

The only reason not to claim is if you have something to hide.

-V

[nickthename]

NACHO, GIVE ME A FULL CLAIM.

Allow me to channel Majiffy:
No.

Even for a cookie?