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Post Post #3975 (ISO) » Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:29 am

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In post 3970, Sugar Cain wrote:
In post 3969, Thor665 wrote:
In post 3967, Sugar Cain wrote:
In post 3959, Sugar Cain wrote:Why is Mastin scummy for tunneling on Action Dan but Thor is not scummy for tunneling on us?
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ummm no.

I had asked about why Mastin was scum a few pages back and I don't think anyone answered. As far as I can tell Mastin is being suspected as scum 'cause he's lurking/not very active and was tunneling on AD. It doesn't make sense to me that his tunneling is scummy while you've done practically nothing all game but tunnel us but its not scummy? I just need someone to explain the difference in the two is all.
Mastin is scum for avoiding interaction with players, avoiding game topics, and overuse of theory discussion which he is trying to disguise as content. He is also tunneling AD, but he is scum for his other actions, independent of Dan tunnel.

Thor may be scum tunneling you. But, he took time out from his tunnel to help lynch Ellibereth. As long as he continues to lynch his scummates when it matters, his tunneling is an annoying quirk that you should ignore.
If he is town tunneling you, as long as he continues to lynch his scum when it matters, his tunneling is an annoying quirk that you should ignore.
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Post Post #3976 (ISO) » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:21 am

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^Peregrine, so town
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Post Post #3977 (ISO) » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:30 am

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In post 3910, Desperado wrote:
In post 3907, mastin2 wrote:
In post 3900, PeregrineV wrote:And, you still haven't commented on the claim itself. You've called both players in the discussion "town", but no comment on the particulars of the mechanics of the claim. If you can speculate on the makeup of the scumteam, it seems you are skipping Matt's presented "Scavenger" role.
Commenting on the players both being town itself would have been enough, but there's more. I distinctly remember mentioning in my setup spec talk of a scum backup role being possible.
This was me addressing Matt's claimed role.
And yet, you ignored that.

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So are you admitting to fence sitting on Matt or what? You say Matt v NBH is Town v Town but that Matt's claimed role is a possible scum role...?
This is one giant misrep. I think MattP is town,
and that the scum might have an
equivalent
role to Matt's
. Not that MattP, himself, was scum with that role. The speculation was scum having roles to MIRROR TOWN ROLES. In other words, scum having a role equivalent to the town-MattP's role.
In post 3917, PeregrineV wrote:So, you are speculating that scum have a backup role, Matt mentions his role, which sounds like a backup role, but he is town because the argument Matt is having with No Brains is "town on town"? Clearly I was wrong. You stated your thoughts on Matt ("town"), his role ("scum may have a backup role"), and all the other implications he seemed to imply (" ").

Then let's move on to the rest of your speculation. You think scum have a herder. IIRC, NoBrains claimed herder, and AJ claimed herder. Aj flipped Town Herder. Is NoBrains still a herder? If town, what does this mean for the vig claim of OhGod?
For the first--addressed above. Scum wouldn't have a backup role if MattP were scum; scum having a backup role
is reliant on MattP being town
.

For the second--AJ never claimed herder. AJ had that role, yes. But if AJ thought that NBH was scum, he would have voted them. He didn't. Quite the opposite, he insisted that they were town. So, yes. NBH is still a herder, and still a town herder. And it's irrelevant to OGML's vig claim. OGML would be, AT ABSOLUTE WORST, a serial killer, but unless you've got an explanation for the two kills during N1, then OGML's claim is truthful in that he has the ability to shoot people. Thus, vig (what I believe) or serial killer--in either case, not scum.
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In post 3893, mastin2 wrote: *Maaaaaaaaaybe not TIP. Scumread there is actually weakening. It's still a scumread, but it's a much weaker one.
based on what?
For a start? The fact that you seem to be popping up in my other scumreads' lynch lists. I also remember some of your posting looking town, and potentially reminiscent of my read on Dan. I can't remember
what
posts they were, though, and that's one of the reasons you're still a scumread; if I knew what posts looked like town, I'd have already analyzed them to figure out if they held water. :P

I'm not going to have the time today (got a promise to fulfill that will eat up most of my time today) and will be V/LA over the weekend, but it's something I'm planning to follow through on come Monday.
In post 3945, ActionDan wrote:not strong enough. but imo the fact that peregrine is even trying that hard is points for him.
Points, yes.
Scum
points, though. This REEKS of scum jumping onto an easy mislynch.
The fact that PeregrineV is pushing it after the mod cleared it up is proof of that--it's an effort to distract us from the lynch of actual scum. Actual scum, say, such as himself and Titus.
In post 3975, PeregrineV wrote:Mastin is scum for avoiding interaction with players, avoiding game topics, and overuse of theory discussion which he is trying to disguise as content. He is also tunneling AD, but he is scum for his other actions, independent of Dan tunnel.
Except that I've interacted with all the players, addressed every single game topic, brought up theory only as a side-note, am reading ActionDan as town, and have shut down every single reason you've listed for me being scum.
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Post Post #3978 (ISO) » Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:21 am

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In post 3976, OhGodMyLife wrote:^Peregrine, so town
Elaborate on this please?
just the tIP
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Post Post #3979 (ISO) » Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:28 am

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In post 3978, TheIrishPope wrote:
In post 3976, OhGodMyLife wrote:^Peregrine, so town
Elaborate on this please?
3975 is a town post
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Post Post #3980 (ISO) » Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:43 am

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I know, but what made you think it
just the tIP
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Post Post #3981 (ISO) » Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:54 pm

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Hey

if we are aiming to get another mislynch today, why don't we go after someone who is practically conf. town?

VOTE: Matt

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Post Post #3982 (ISO) » Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:55 pm

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Or maybe, we could go after someone who is a PR but is so incredibly dense that, without that PR he would probably be scum otherwise

someone who is making scum-teams that obviously do not make any sense at all whatsoever

VOTE: OGML

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Post Post #3983 (ISO) » Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:56 pm

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VOTE: No Brains here
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Post Post #3984 (ISO) » Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:56 pm

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Or someone who is playing incredibly anti-town, but is obviously town even without his PR softs

VOTE: Matt
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Post Post #3985 (ISO) » Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:59 pm

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or maybe

maaayyyybbbeeee

we could lynch someone who obviously town, but is scum because of cold hard numbers

VOTE: TIP
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Post Post #3986 (ISO) » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:01 pm

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or the less than obvious town, and someone who has made a scummish looking slot look at least somewhat townier

BUT IS STILL SCUM BASED ON SAID COLD HARD NUMBERS

because Cold hard numbers are the best way to hunt hands down no doubt and it always, 100% catches scum way, way better than any other case could ever

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Post Post #3987 (ISO) » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:03 pm

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or maybe someone else who is obviously town who is also scum based on COLD HARD NUMBERS

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Post Post #3988 (ISO) » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:05 pm

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Or, we could just lynch scum. Scum who also can't say that I don't know what the concept of a hydra is, because he just played against another one of mine WHERE HE WAS TOWN AND I WAS SCUM

yet, I was just as obstructive there as I was here, Matty/Kanye might as well have been as well early game YET HE DID NOT COMPLAIN ABOUT IT AT ALL

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Post Post #3989 (ISO) » Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:54 pm

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Yeah Sugar is Town
just the tIP
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Post Post #3990 (ISO) » Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:31 am

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In post 3989, TheIrishPope wrote:Yeah Sugar is Town
Because only town whine?
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Post Post #3991 (ISO) » Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:50 am

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No; only Town whine so convincingly
just the tIP
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Post Post #3992 (ISO) » Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:18 am

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Nah, overwrought and with a self vote in the middle of it - not town.
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Post Post #3993 (ISO) » Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:20 am

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Also, note there was nothing done to make the pressure on Mastin greater, so he was okay discussing the wagon yesterday, then got some sleep, and *then* became filled with passion about the lynch?
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Post Post #3994 (ISO) » Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:25 am

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The fact that it's a hydra doesn't dissuade you?
just the tIP
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Post Post #3995 (ISO) » Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:34 am

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That you want me to believe they were overwrought with emotion for 10 minutes worth of ranting on an issue that has been around for weeks does.
I'm pretty sure the Mastin suspicion is hardly a new thing, and it's not like it's suddenly the big thing either - but we get that reaction.
It feels very fake.

Why does it feel so shockingly real to you to the point you're defending it?
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Post Post #3996 (ISO) » Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:41 am

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also did not like that spasm from SC
I'll give you a moment to let that sink in
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Post Post #3997 (ISO) » Sat Sep 07, 2013 4:29 am

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Shockingly real? Not at all; I just don't see it as something that can further your scumread on them
just the tIP
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Post Post #3998 (ISO) » Sat Sep 07, 2013 4:32 am

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Quit acting pissy, SC. You don't have the right to act that way. You have been completely obstinate in getting lynches through this entire game. In fact, you've got onto me multiple times for being too lynch-thirsty. I know you're being sarcastic, but no one else wants to lynch me. The problem with this game is that no one wants to compromise on players that have very clearly risen to the top of the pack as far as potential lynches go. Yesterday it was mastin and MS. Then a bunch of you threw out Pere's name and screwed the entire end of D3 up, wasting that entire day. Today it's TIP and I'll even given you mastin with a worthy-but-now-unnecessary sidetrack on sangres. Please seriously consider throwing your support behind TIP or mastin for the sake of practicality. I think very much that this town has earned itself another two instinctive lynches without overthinking itself into oblivion. Me, AD, Desperado, and Pere have been the only reasonable voices today so far. Frankly, I didn't think a name claim was necessary today, but I will accede to it. I am not letting it influence my decision making any longer, however. After Elli's blunder, I don't think that the scum will be reluctant to use fakeclaims any longer.
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Post Post #3999 (ISO) » Sat Sep 07, 2013 4:49 am

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In post 3997, TheIrishPope wrote:Shockingly real? Not at all; I just don't see it as something that can further your scumread on them
Eh...you called it a town tell and then got defensive about it when I said I didn't.
You are defending it rather strongly considering how weak of a tell either way it was - whassup? You scum who knows it's a towntell? You a scumbuddy trying to help shore up his partner? Let me know.
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