I love how people keep bringing up lurking in this game as some kind of justification for their votes - when almost everyone is contributing to this. I don't know if it's lurking so much as it's just having difficulty getting into this one, or more this:
In post 406, TrumpetKing wrote:I haven't really felt where I fit into any conversations, and nothing's really sticking out to me currently.
but we're only helping their wincon by contributing to it, not ours. And yes, I'm guilty of it, too.
So, first:
In post 432, Om of the Nom wrote:Okay, elle, you're one of my strongest townreads in this game. Work with me here.
Why did your gut ping on Gnomeo? Do you still think BOOM is scum? Can I have your two strongest scumreads and townreads please?
I'll start with Gnomeo.
Given my above position on lurking, if there was someone that was lurking that I wanted to see more from, it's him. So, part of it is pressure but it goes along with just this really weird vibe I get from what he
has
actually posted.
Maybe it's that his posting seems very... singular? (D1; Fuzzy, D2; Ace) I'd like it a lot more if there was actual content to go along with it but as it is, it seems - idk, I want to say 'forced' but that's not it - almost as if he doesn't want to call attention to himself by calling too many people out?
He actively ignores commenting on votes on him to continue this singular line -but again, weird vibe - Because I really like how he questions ace's reads list, here:
In post 428, Gnomeo wrote:
Would you say a random reads list without any reasoning is a scumtell? Because that's what you posted.
What's the point of your list if you don't give any reasons for your reads? You only talk about lurkers, baldeagles case and the people attacking it.
but dislike how it's followed up by:
In post 430, Gnomeo wrote:I fail to see why town would present a reads list like yours.
when it's coming from someone who hasn't posted a reads list at all.
@Gnomeo: Considering you're focusing on ace now, do you think he's scum? Do you have a reads list to contribute to show what you think a towns reads list
should
look like?
In regards to BOOM, the main reason I thought they were scummy was because of what looked like a last-ditch-effort new wagon generator. So with ferret's flip, I'd normally have put him back to null - and if it were just DP, I probably would have - but the other half is Saki. And I'll never think of Saki as anything but scum. Saki plays a scum game no matter what alignment he rolls (quick-lynching, self-voting, lurksacking), and imo, plays against his wincon as town as if to strengthen his scum game. And I don't think the quick-hammer without a chance to claim should be disregarded solely on the 'that's his meta' factor - ever. Given that, I will never have a problem lynching him.
That said, the only other thing that makes me think of him as scummy now is the other heads response to this. DP knew going into this how Saki plays so him saying that he 'tried to restrain Saki' from doing what Saki normally does regardless of alignment, comes off as scummy to me if only because I feel like the only reason to
restrain
him, would be if they were scum trying not to appear scum. The only thing that makes me question it is that DP states that he hoped because they were hydraing together that Saki wouldn't do that - but then, I'd think that might be something you'd work out beforehand.
@ those reading BOOM as town: Why?
I found that really surprising, especially from Yggdra Union. I was reading that hydra as mostly town up until that. Coming from TIP, it was less surprising because I could definitely see Klick (now TIP) as scum if just for the self-vote at L:2. I think I'd have been more inclined to let that go if it wasn't for the fact that Klick made it look like he was self-voting and giving up but then came back later saying he was doing it to provoke a reaction.
Now, I think we all thought that fuzzy's NK was weird but combined with the above and the fact that fuzzy's main case was against klick, all I can surmise from it is that either:
This kill was because of that main case on Klick and didn't want to see it repeated on D2 or that the kill was just because they were going for who was most likely to be considered town, if only 'newbtown'. I'm leaning the former.
The more I think about it, the more sketchy I think this might be - and that one of the above, if not all, are badnewsbears.
As for my top top for town: I have...
no
freaking
clue.
