League of Legends (Old)

[chamber]

I mean sometimes I just lose the lane because me and my adc have no communication skills. But often I'll ward well during the laning phase, and get my adc kills, and then just feel useless past the point laning ends I guess.

[BROseidon]

1) Figuring out how your ADC plays and playing to match his play takes a lot of work. If you're out of sync (ie, he's aggressive and you're passive or vice versa), then you're going to lose lane (unless they are also are doing it wrong).

2) Wards, wards everywhere. People undervalue how important it is to have vision everywhere on the map.

[RayFrost]

Sona is easily my best support, and I can give you some pretty basic advice for her (anything more requires me being good at this game).

1) Hybrid pen reds make for awesome shenanigans
2) Get to two stacks on passive, auto, q, auto. Proc on powerchord resets your auto animation for tons of burst.
3) Try to be abusive level one against champions that don't start off with good cc capabilities / ranged harass (leona, alistar, soraka, maybe elise if you can dodge stun, to a certain extent zyra, thresh, blitz and fid) and wait until level two or three if their cc capabilities don't scale well off of levels / the cc doesn't do much against ranged (alistar, soraka, elise). I do not ever recommend picking sona into taric. The rest depends on team comp / your confidence / etc.
4) Start off with two green wards, two pink wards, and pots. Faerie charm is not as effective in a lot of cases.
4.1) Abuse brush vision as much as possible to pop out, auto / q, pop back in. Make them rue the day they only had one pink ward to start with.

[dramonic]

I am so excited for creator Viktor @.@
My current match history is seriously wins with him and losses with anything else right now. ..

[Cephrir]

I'm really bad at supporting and I don't really know why. My win rate as support, in bronze, is like 1/8 or something ridiculous, but while I'm playing the role I feel like I'm doing everything that I know to be right, which just means my understanding of what supports actually need to be doing must be critically flawed.

People think support is a lot easier than it actually is.

Like, very few players actually understand where to ward and why, or when it is safe to go ward a location by yourself (this gets into the whole "you should never get caught warding" schtick).

Also, lane presence is hard. It's why I suck at Sona >.>

As a gold support main I still have no idea where and when to ward, I just sort of guess and routinely get caught warding. Fortunately most of my supports are good at living anyway if caught.

[PJ.]

Shyvana's dad. I am disappoint.

[Ankamius]

Just a quick tip for you ADC players out there in lower ELOs;

Aim for towers, not fights.

You are the single most destructive force on the entire map when it comes to burning down towers. If you aren't directly needed for a major objective or for a 5-man pressure push, you should be pushing somewhere. You can completely crush a tower with very few items, so using that to your advantage will win you more games.

Just... be careful. Always bring at least two wards with you when you're going to try pulling this off, as you're pretty likely to go behind enemy territory and you won't survive a direct confrontation in most cases.

[quadz08]

I'm not convinced I agree with that. It will work if you have the proper map awareness and vision, and your team won't just get completely clobbered. Most low-ELO ADCs will get to the tower and either watch their team get creamed in a different lane, or get caught by two or three people from the enemy team.

[mykonian]

As a specific case of what ank said, if you are the adc and there's a siege going on, please, do not try to get the champions if you have a clear shot at the tower. No one else is going to do poke down the tower, as no one else has long range and large damage.

[Ankamius]

I'm not convinced I agree with that. It will work if you have the proper map awareness and vision, and your team won't just get completely clobbered. Most low-ELO ADCs will get to the tower and either watch their team get creamed in a different lane, or get caught by two or three people from the enemy team.

That's why you bring the wards with you. Keep the jungle nearby warded and do the super pushing technique. Naturally it would take some practice and experience to get this sort of strategy down, but you can really make a big difference in the game if you can get good at knowing when you can do this and gain an extra advantage. You have to keep in mind as well that the enemy team is also low ELO, so the chances of them responding to it effectively is pretty much zero. If they send too many people down to where you're at, you just have to get out of there and get your team to take advantage of that for towers or objectives elsewhere on the map.

[quadz08]

I mean, I agree with you conceptually, but I find that sending the ADC to push down towers alone really gimps your team for the upcoming teamfight. In my experience, the team with 5 tends to just jump on and clobber the team that doesn't have an ADC, which makes the ADC being alone a doubly poor decision.

I dunno, I think it depends on what team you're playing.

Re: Myko's point - I agree with that 100%. What I'm not convinced of is the split-pushing idea.

[BROseidon]

Shyvana's dad. I am disappoint.

Before they even announced the new champ in the pool party poster.

Riot I am disappoint.

Also the spec thread on the pool party thread is hilarious. Riot's pretty obviously trolling.

[JDodge]

I mean, I agree with you conceptually, but I find that sending the ADC to push down towers alone really gimps your team for the upcoming teamfight. In my experience, the team with 5 tends to just jump on and clobber the team that doesn't have an ADC, which makes the ADC being alone a doubly poor decision.

I dunno, I think it depends on what team you're playing.

Re: Myko's point - I agree with that 100%. What I'm not convinced of is the split-pushing idea.

its not something you can do without solid disengage, but its basically one of CLG's primary strategies so it has some merits to it (the main point

of

an ADC in the game at the moment is not their teamfight presence, which is usually significantly less than a solo laner's, but their pushing potential)

[KageLord]

I agree conceptually with Ank as well, as long as there is proper ward coverage and the rest of the team is also made aware that this is happening and that they should do their very very best to avoid a teamfight. Also the path to Baron should be warded at this point (a weakness that I see in this strat especially at lower elo is that the enemy team will disappear and go for baron when they see the adc away and they will either take Baron or just lure someone from the other team into facechecking and getting wrecked, which would then make the 3v5 baron or push unstoppable).

[quadz08]

its not something you can do without solid disengage, but its basically one of CLG's primary strategies so it has some merits to it (the main point of an ADC in the game at the moment is not their teamfight presence, which is usually significantly less than a solo laner's, but their pushing potential)

[Bub Bidderskins]

My favorite ADC is Ashe, and I don't think solo pushing is best with her...

[KageLord]

She's got pretty good objective control though (i.e. it is easier to take objectives like drag or baron while she's on your team I think).

[BROseidon]

She has good objective control in that she has the safest initiate in the game, so it's easy as balls to pick people and then take objectives.

[KageLord]

I was thinking more the other way. C9 has repeatedly just gone for drag with wards on the way to it from mid, taken drag, Ashe arrow engage on the team that's coming in, and boom.

[zoraster]

so my wife is in Asia for another 10 days, and i'm left with little to do. on a scale of 1 to panzerjager, how big a mistake would installing LoL be?

[Staeg]

Probably a panzerjager

[TheIrishPope]

I say do it

[xRECKONERx]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U996nO8zkZs#t=163

damn, they're quick

@zor: It'd be the best huge mistake you've ever made.

[zoraster]

well, when i go upstairs we'll see if i'm still motivated to try it. i'm not really even sure what to expect except that it will, in the process, somehow dull my sense of what is important and not important, resulting in petty bickering and self-righteous indignation. Hopefully in return for that I burn several days/weeks of my life.

[Tamuz]

You shouldn't do it.

Its terrible for a very very long time. And you have better things to do with your life.