Mini 1489 - VisCon: Murder at Wingate Mansion [Game Over]

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 2.6

The Purple Shoe [1] - Shadoweh
Inte [3] - Ms Marangal, Generic, qwints
projectmatt[2] - Bert, Nachomamma8

Not Voting [5] - Empire, inte, The Purple Shoe, projectmatt, Tammy

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch

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Deadline is September 15, 2013, at 11:00 AM PST.
Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2013-09-15 13:00:00)

[projectmatt]

matt called kuribo town like he was afraid

desperado*

Are you lying or just messed up on the facts? I replaced in after Desperado was lynched.

i fucking hate that matt has two of his scumreads confirmed town
and then is like "welp, i'm not doing shit"

lol, apart from trying to work out the confusion and read into other players by scumhunting whilst also boringly waiting for other people to claim so I can get even more reads and decide who I want to lynch - you're right, I'm doing nothing.

and one of his scumreads is POISONED
and he doesn't even follow up to see if he's right
he doesn't have a reaction
he's either a robot or he's scum

..So? One of my scumreads is poisoned and I'm going to find out very soon if I am right. How do you expect me to follow up? Read through an ISO of a confirmed dying player I've already read through?

Nacho, either you are mafia or your reasoning skills have been sharply deducted since the last time I've played with you. Not going to bother retorting Bert considering he's blood thirsty but lacking in any substantial logic.

Matt - idk it's mostly a grey feeling that struck me, mostly that's a reminder to myself to work out if its anything. Why did you pick up on me saying that and didn't budge at nacho saying you're being "so scummy" in Post 1515?

To be fair, I'm pretty sure I called you out because I care about your opinion and I'm relatively apathetic to Nacho's.

[projectmatt]

For blatant reasons, I'm waiting on claims in order to help me out with figuring out who the mafia is - something a majority of players in this game seem to be doing as well.

[projectmatt]

One note though: Bert, I am genuinely puzzled that you seem to have a sincere scum read on Nacho but you are also willing to follow his lead at the first opportunity.

[Bert]

Actually in the last page or two I'm reconsidering my Nacho scumread. I'm not done prodding him yet, though.

Your defenses don't look very good. They're really just deflecting back at Nacho in a really gut-scummy accusatory tone.

[projectmatt]

The only accusations that were actually made were either lies or extreme stretches of the truth. I've absolutely no idea how you could think my defenses are illogical.

[Generic]

If shadoweh flips scum I would say inte is best lynch. I know it seems obvious but a scum in each neighbourhood would make sense. They clearly are hiding. Still no claim too.

Come day 3 if we have one (shouldn't be likely getting two scum) we look at purple shoe/matt/nacho/me/bert as a group. Cos if its not inte it's one of the servants.
I like nachos return, and now the game is over I would like to point out it was newbie 1391 that I saw scum nacho lose interest when he was last scum left and almost completely backed into a corner (JK kept jailing him every night). His reaction was to go missing, be difficult and offer up lynches on people others werent wanting to lynch... And there are signs of that play here.

One for day 3 if we have one, if we don't I will apologise to nacho for the paranoia

[Nachomamma8]

Are you lying or just messed up on the facts? I replaced in after Desperado was lynched.

You replaced the wrong name.

apart from trying to work out the confusion and read into other players by scumhunting whilst also boringly waiting for other people to claim so I can get even more reads and decide who I want to lynch

When Marangal claimed town lovers with qwints, that should have shook your world. But the only thing we've seen since this happened is asking Tammy if I'm scum (cool, not really useful), asking Empire who is scum (cool, again, not useful), got tempted to vote me (why?), and gave Empire your old meta. That doesn't look like

..So? One of my scumreads is poisoned and I'm going to find out very soon if I am right. How do you expect me to follow up? Read through an ISO of a confirmed dying player I've already read through?

What do you think of Shadoweh's behavior since she's been poisoned?
I followed up! Most people did that.

[Nachomamma8]

Are you lying or just messed up on the facts? I replaced in after Desperado was lynched.

You replaced the wrong name.

apart from trying to work out the confusion and read into other players by scumhunting whilst also boringly waiting for other people to claim so I can get even more reads and decide who I want to lynch

When Marangal claimed town lovers with qwints, that should have shook your world. But the only thing we've seen since this happened is asking Tammy if I'm scum (cool, not really useful), asking Empire who is scum (cool, again, not useful), got tempted to vote me (why?), and gave Empire your old meta. That doesn't look like you are a townie attempting to reanalyze things, that looks like you are scum looking for mislynches.

..So? One of my scumreads is poisoned and I'm going to find out very soon if I am right. How do you expect me to follow up? Read through an ISO of a confirmed dying player I've already read through?

What do you think of Shadoweh's behavior since she's been poisoned?

[Tammy]

oh

UNVOTE:

I still suspect nacho, but I don't want to take the chance of him to be lynched before we're done with this in case he's not.

i didn't notice i was at L-1. people probably shouldn't be brought to L-1 with shadoweh sitting on the shoe wagon.

Oh you saw that you weren't but yeah being at L-2 is close enough when there's Shadoweh and an aimless shoe/inte out there and godsknow if they're paying attention.

[Tammy]

Oh I was thinking this morning about how desperado was trying to get me to scum read shadoweh and tie her to generic.

[quote="In post 215, Desperado"]@ Tammy: Which scumflip would be more damaging for the other, Generic or Shadow?


Here this whole business when he was trying to get me to scum read shadoweh and then tried to tie them together.

[Tammy]

Should we just forget about inte claiming and go with shoe, if he ever checks in, me and empire. kuribo did give a claim so thoughts?

[projectmatt]

You replaced the wrong name.

No, I didn't. The original post was "Matt townread Kuribo out of fear" but you followed up with that post correcting it as Desperado. Does * mean something that I am unaware of? Presuming that the answer is yes, show me where it looks I townread him out of fear.

When Marangal claimed town lovers with qwints, that should have shook your world. But the only thing we've seen since this happened is asking Tammy if I'm scum (cool, not really useful), asking Empire who is scum (cool, again, not useful), got tempted to vote me (why?), and gave Empire your old meta. That doesn't look like like you are a townie attempting to reanalyze things, that looks like you are scum looking for mislynches.

If you actually read my ISO, I was both confused and thrown off by Maragnal's claim and eventually decided to at least accept that Maragnal was town. Asking questions is extremely useful for me both to generate content and get reads by looking at the thought process of other players. At the moment though, as I previously said, I am waiting on the remaining claims before I actually put a lot of effort into deciding who I want lynched today.

What do you think of Shadoweh's behavior since she's been poisoned?
I followed up! Most people did that.

I think she has been strangely passive but I find little use in attempting to read her content considering she is marked for death no matter the conclusion I draw. I have been reading but I find it entirely useless to dedicate posts to a player that is already marked for the grave.

Again - I have no interest in getting into a fight with you here but your rationale is very disappointing and weak.

[Tammy]

Purple shoe I see you around, will you just claim so we can get on with this?

[Ms Marangal]

* means some type of correction Matt

the post should have read that Desperado was scared of Matt, not you

[Ms Marangal]

*Kuribo :/

[Ms Marangal]

Nacho

why are you leaning more towards Matt over Inte?

[projectmatt]

Oh, I misinterpreted the post, my bad. Thank you for pointing that out.

[Shadoweh]

Zzzz. You know, I'm pretty sure if I hadn't been all fuck you earlier I wouldn't have been shot in the first place. Since I'm dead I'm engaging in some glorious sleeping at regular hours instead of reading about how everyone hates me. And if you think my scumreads mean they're scum with me and should be lynched, sure whatever floats your boat.

You know, I've always found that the fastest way to turn momentum into a snorefest is to be stuck waiting for someone in massclaim. I'm sure inte is totes going to claim a vt servant anyways so why bother waiting? You should just quicklynch him superfast zooooom!

[Shadoweh]

..Okay, so I lied about the regular sleeping, I've just been playing Yugioh until eight in the morning. I kinda wanted to get in on the Yugioh Abridged game but I wanted to hold out for something better. Thanks for killing me approximately when the other game will start so my brain doesn't explode?

[The Purple Shoe]

Purple shoe I see you around, will you just claim so we can get on with this?

oooh I've been waiting to claim

I am Frankenstein the lovable friendly monster that you all love to hate. However due to your hatred you guys never believe me and always see me as evil!

Either that or I am a servant

[qwints]

Shoe is still a good option.

[Tammy]

should I just go ahead and claim. kuribo claimed vt, so i doubt if inte responds to his prod he'll either claim or will claim anything other than that, and did someone already say that empire claimed vt? I don't remember that, but.

all this waiting around is beyond boring.

[Generic]

How about we just discuss which of inte and shoe we want to lynch and lynch them? I see no gain from your claim tammy.

Inte's character was what I was more concerned about, and the idea we have nacho, bert, me, shoe and matt ALL claiming servants is suspicious only if inte is town. Cos desp represented the non hood scum at present.

Lets kill inte, see the shadoweh flip too and if we still have a night phase then mara can poison shoe and we take it from there.

What about that plan is a problem?

[Empire]

This is ridiculous. Why did inte even bother replacing into this game if he's not going to play it?

Anyway, I claimed in the Neighborhood and partially in thread but I'm May Wingate. Aside from having access to the QT, I have no abilities whatsoever so I'm essentially a vanilla.