NY 164: Maniacal Street Mafia (Anticlimatically finished.)

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #6025 (ISO) » Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:27 am

Vote: Amethyst Kitty

It can go there if you'd like.

Amethyst Kitty · Post Post #6026 (ISO) » Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:33 am

In post 6024, ffullisade wrote:
In post 6023, Amethyst Kitty wrote:
In post 6022, ffullisade wrote:
In post 6021, Amethyst Kitty wrote:or

Ffery, either one can answer
If you have anything to claim, then please fucking claim it.
You can answer our question first.

Bring Mollie back in the thread. I want her to reply to my post.
Sorry, you get to deal with me for now.

See, I figured if if you're town and you had ANYTHING AT ALL that could help narrow things down here at the doorstep of a town loss you would have put it on the goddamn table today. Instead you're being coy.

I am pretty damn sure you are red scum.

No, but we are town, but nothing special, but thing that's glaring obvious by now. If we had something, anything I would have said it already by now. I think if I had anything I would have made it known prior days. You are looking for us to give you proof that we don't have.

@Nacho:

Bad vote because we are town.

ffullisade · Post Post #6027 (ISO) » Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:36 am

In post 6026, Amethyst Kitty wrote:
In post 6024, ffullisade wrote:
In post 6023, Amethyst Kitty wrote:
In post 6022, ffullisade wrote:
In post 6021, Amethyst Kitty wrote:or

Ffery, either one can answer
If you have anything to claim, then please fucking claim it.
You can answer our question first.

Bring Mollie back in the thread. I want her to reply to my post.
Sorry, you get to deal with me for now.

See, I figured if if you're town and you had ANYTHING AT ALL that could help narrow things down here at the doorstep of a town loss you would have put it on the goddamn table today. Instead you're being coy.

I am pretty damn sure you are red scum.
No, but we are town, but nothing special, but thing that's glaring obvious by now. If we had something, anything I would have said it already by now. I think if I had anything I would have made it known prior days. You are looking for us to give you proof that we don't have.

@Nacho:

Bad vote because we are town.

Yeah, we don't believe you are a PR, and haven't in quite a while.

But, mollie did think you were crumbing a PR on day 1, and that crumb caused her to back off more than once later in the game. She thinks that was intentional - to make it such a subtle signal that it would be deniable, but still obvious enough that she'd see it, since it was mollie you were warning off.

Amethyst Kitty · Post Post #6028 (ISO) » Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:39 am

No, in fact I don't even know what the crumb is. I didn't crumb jack shit this game and this is what I'm trying to explain. No wasn't intentional because hell I don't even know what you are talking about. I tried to find something that remotely resembled a crumb and to me nothing looks like one, nothing.

Amethyst Kitty · Post Post #6029 (ISO) » Wed Sep 11, 2013 11:20 am

In post 6024, ffullisade wrote:See, I figured if if you're town and you had ANYTHING AT ALL that could help narrow things down here at the doorstep of a town loss you would have put it on the goddamn table today.

There really isn't anything to keep this from happening at this point, and we don't have anything special to keep this from happening

You could give me the answer to what I asked earlier though

Bulbazak · Post Post #6030 (ISO) » Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:26 pm

In post 6017, penguin_alien wrote: You think KK protected you (and it would have been protection, not a roleblock, since you'd claimed VT) after seeing that you were the counterwagon to a town lynch?

I'm not so sure he was protecting me. I was involved in probably the most controversial lynch in the game, which was proceeded by a plan to leash the vig. I remember that he argued with me for awhile about that plan. He probably was blocking me to see if he stopped a kill. Just because I claimed VT doesn't mean that he believed it. I think he targeted me for the same reason ThAd did.

In post 6017, penguin_alien wrote: Please elaborate on where you planned to have CTD protected

In post 4442, Bulbazak wrote: Okay, here's the plan. I'm assuming that town has a protective role of some sort. What I'm asking is that CTD be protected during the night phase, since he is essentially def. town, and we'll need him in the upcoming days. With that, the ball is in your court ThAd. If you really are the vig., you should know that this upcoming night phase is likely to be the only one to prove yourself. You can shoot at whoever you think is scum or is harmful to the town (although it might not hurt to ask for suggestions from the town itself, being that you outed yourself and all), however, should you aim at CTD, you will be wasting your shot. Anybody else is okay (even me), as there is enough contention with the rest of the player list as to gain useful information from a flip.

CTD, I'd still find those reads/final thoughts useful, just in case. Should the wagon get to L-1, I'll try to keep the hammer off long enough for you to get as much information as you want out. If anybody quickhammers with this in mind, I will make it my mission to lynch them.

In post 6017, penguin_alien wrote: and what was the deal with the Slandaar wagon at the end of the day that you think is relevant?

I was the competing wagon with Slandaar at the end of the day, and I pushed heavily for his lynch. In fact, many would say that he was my counterwagon. That was reason enough for some people to want me lynched the next day.

mastin2 · Post Post #6031 (ISO) » Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:42 am

One-Hundred-Sixty-Fourth Votecount

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(Second Votecount of Day Seven,

AKA, the "Decent pace!" votecount.

)

Amethyst Kitty - 1 (Nachomamma8)

Not Voting - 5 (PeregrineV, Bulbazak, penguin_alien, Amethyst Kitty, ffullisade)

With

6

alive, it's

4

to lynch.

Day Seven's deadline is Monday, September 30th, @ 12:30 PM PST, which is in (expired on 2013-09-30 12:30:00).

Spoiler: Changes from last votecount

Last votecount was page 241, post 6000.

Spoiler: Player Vote History D7

Spoiler: Vote History D7

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #6032 (ISO) » Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:01 am

In post 6030, Bulbazak wrote:Just because I claimed VT doesn't mean that he believed it.

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Bulbazak · Post Post #6033 (ISO) » Thu Sep 12, 2013 12:44 pm

Was there a point, or are you setting the grounds for something later?

penguin_alien · Post Post #6034 (ISO) » Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:16 am

Nacho, why are you being so cavalier?

Bulbazak, so your argument is that you suggested the likely vig target be protected even though the vig needed to prove himself. Which made KK think you were town? And you being the counterwagon to a flipped town wagon did make you a likely lynch the next day. Therefore very unlikely to be NK'd by scum. So how does it work that KK protects you when you're almost inevitably going to flip the next day anyways? He should hope that you do get vigged to save the town a lynch.

And if he thought you were scum under such heavy suspicion, why would he block you? The likelihood your team would send you out to kill when everyone thought there was a good chance of a tracker around (no way to know it was red scum's then) is very low.

Bulbazak · Post Post #6035 (ISO) » Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:20 am

In post 6034, penguin_alien wrote: Bulbazak, so your argument is that you suggested the likely vig target be protected even though the vig needed to prove himself. Which made KK think you were town?

No, I actually think the opposite.

In post 6034, penguin_alien wrote: And you being the counterwagon to a flipped town wagon did make you a likely lynch the next day. Therefore very unlikely to be NK'd by scum. So how does it work that KK protects you when you're almost inevitably going to flip the next day anyways? He should hope that you do get vigged to save the town a lynch.

Obviously my flip wasn't that inevitable.

In post 6034, penguin_alien wrote: And if he thought you were scum under such heavy suspicion, why would he block you? The likelihood your team would send you out to kill when everyone thought there was a good chance of a tracker around (no way to know it was red scum's then) is very low.

I remember a lot of talk about Rena not being a town Watcher, not about there being a town tracker. Please illuminate me on these tracker talks, because I don't remember them. Also, how does that last sentence work exactly? The chances of scum-me delivering the kill is low, because there might be a tracker (which was never discussed), which is obviously town, even though it would be obvious to scum-me that there is a red tracker? I thought you were trying to argue for red scum-me here.

And let's not forget that we were dealing with a paranoid vig. There was no telling who he was going to shoot, which means there was no indication whether he would have shot at me or someone else. If KK thought I was scum, it would have been irresponsible for him to rely on the actions of the vig, especially when he could do something about potentially blocking the NK himself.

Regardless, this entire point is moot. You're trying to argue the motivations of a dead guy and whether he JK'd me or not, which to me, it is pretty obvious that he did. I'm just saying that looking back at d3, I can kinda understand why he did so.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #6036 (ISO) » Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:30 pm

V/LA until Tuesday

Hopefully gonna be back monday but you never know.

ffullisade · Post Post #6037 (ISO) » Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:17 pm

mollie and I need to synch before we put our vote down again. Hopefully tomorrow.

Amethyst Kitty · Post Post #6038 (ISO) » Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:03 pm

Has anyone seen Peregrine?

mastin2 · Post Post #6039 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:34 pm

In post 6038, Amethyst Kitty wrote:Has anyone seen Peregrine?

Apologies. Forgot to announce it; PeregrineV has declared V/LA, ending tomorrow.

PeregrineV · Post Post #6040 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:37 am

In post 6038, Amethyst Kitty wrote:Has anyone seen Peregrine?

Semi-back today.

Who is the blue scum?

Who is the red scum?

PeregrineV · Post Post #6041 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:37 am

In post 6037, ffullisade wrote:mollie and I need to synch before we put our vote down again. Hopefully tomorrow.

Sync up and give the blue-scum name, and the red-scum names.

ffullisade · Post Post #6042 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:24 am

In post 6028, Amethyst Kitty wrote:No, in fact I don't even know what the crumb is.
I didn't crumb jack shit this game and this is what I'm trying to explain. No wasn't intentional because hell I don't even know what you are talking about
. I tried to find something that remotely resembled a crumb and to me nothing looks like one, nothing.

oh really?

In post 4276, Amethyst Kitty wrote:
Fery can you point Mollie in my direction and ask her to ISO me. I want her to read something - she'll see it when she ISO's us.

AA:

explain why Cephrir and Bulba please?

I can maybe see both Despo/Seanald.

if that is not a soft special claim than I don't know wtf 1 is.

I mean what was I supposed to see your uh...obvious towniness? you have looked like pondscum all game the only reason you have been given as much latitude as you have is cos of your ridiculous level of aTe and soft claiming every time you are put under pressure.

and that is what you have done all game. slaandy and I both went after you on d1 or 2 and you were all like, "I am not the best lynch for today, it will hurt teh townz!!1!!" and

we backed off at the same time which is 1 of the reasons as to why I was reading slaandy as strong town

. thanks for that I guess.

I said d1 that if you were still alive on d3 you should lynched cos I was attributing your scumminess to a possible special. I didn't say the last part out loud but yeah, that is the ONLY reason I backed off when I did. the only 1. and now that it is time time to deliver the goods you are claiming...vt I guess? in some weird roundabout way? I am shocked I tell you, shocked.

and your insistence in talking to me instead invalidates the hell out of fery and gives me the impression that you think you can emotionally manipulate me. lol, what did I tell you, you cannot bullshit a bullshitter.

you should have been lynched A LONG TIME AGO.

VOTE: amethyst kitty

mastin2 · Post Post #6043 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:28 am

Sent out pokes/prods to the half the game inactive.

One-Hundred-Sixty-Fifth Votecount

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(Third Votecount of Day Seven,

AKA, the "Important-change-in-VC" votecount.

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Amethyst Kitty - 2 (Nachomamma8, ffullisade)

Not Voting - 4 (PeregrineV, Bulbazak, penguin_alien, Amethyst Kitty)

With

6

alive, it's

4

to lynch.

Day Seven's deadline is Monday, September 30th, @ 12:30 PM PST, which is in (expired on 2013-09-30 12:30:00).

Spoiler: Changes from last votecount

Last votecount was page 242, post 6031.

Spoiler: Player Vote History D7

Spoiler: Vote History D7

Bulbazak · Post Post #6044 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:44 am

I'm not sure if this is for everyone or just AK, but I'm going to answer anyway.

In post 6040, PeregrineV wrote: Who is the blue scum?

PA

In post 6040, PeregrineV wrote: Who is the red scum?

I'm not sure, which is why I'm going through ISOs. I'm currently 1/3 of the way through Nacho's, after which I'll be going through B&B/Ffullisade (5 pages...).

PeregrineV · Post Post #6045 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:20 am

In post 6044, Bulbazak wrote:I'm not sure if this is for everyone or just AK, but I'm going to answer anyway.

In post 6040, PeregrineV wrote: Who is the blue scum?
PA

In post 6040, PeregrineV wrote: Who is the red scum?
I'm not sure, which is why I'm going through ISOs. I'm currently 1/3 of the way through Nacho's, after which I'll be going through B&B/Ffullisade (5 pages...).

It goes to everyone.

ffullisade · Post Post #6046 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:48 am

Hey bulba you're not trying to set up another 1-1-1 endgame are you?

I think someone walked over my grave.

Bulbazak · Post Post #6047 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:55 am

In post 6046, ffullisade wrote:Hey bulba you're not trying to set up another 1-1-1 endgame are you?

I think someone walked over my grave.

If I was scum, I'd be trying to avoid that as much as possible. There's too many ways that could backfire. The only reason that happened in Donner Party was because I was townreading Mala until the final night.

Why are you even considering a 1-1-1 endgame?

ffullisade · Post Post #6048 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:00 am

In post 6047, Bulbazak wrote:
In post 6046, ffullisade wrote:Hey bulba you're not trying to set up another 1-1-1 endgame are you?

I think someone walked over my grave.
If I was scum, I'd be trying to avoid that as much as possible. There's too many ways that could backfire. The only reason that happened in Donner Party was because I was townreading Mala until the final night.

Why are you even considering a 1-1-1 endgame?

Because I'm getting that vibe from you.

Bulbazak · Post Post #6049 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:04 am

From what? The fact that I'm ISOing? I do that every time I'm in a game that gets to Mylo or Lylo.