Xenogears Mafia (Game Over)

[Andrius]

idek
you worry me sir
you really do
but muffin is also trying really hard to get my attention

[Andrius]

Unvote

to do the reading after breakfast

[Desperado]

VOTE: Mac.

This doesn't seem like you. What's your angle on Mac?

[Andrius]

the angle is that mastin's scum, but we can't lynch him for whatever reason so we have to get his buddies first

[Andrius]

actually, on second thought, i'm not all that opposed to a derp mala wagon, as long as a mala town flip means powerlynching the fuck out of bro and aj the following days.

scummy as fuck

Given the way that Andy coasted through yesterday, I think that would be a good place to apply pressure today.

then lynch me you fuck
i have seriously put my neck on the line for CHOPPING BLOCK two days in a row now
and no one wants to take me up on it
WHY NOT
IS IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE PICKED UP MY CRUMBS AND YOU KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN?

second quote was actually bro's

[BROseidon]

I noticed

Also, I didn't pick up your crumbs, and I don't really care what you've crumbed because your crumbing is null, unless something was misrepped during Xenoblade.

[Andrius]

Yeah uh, I wrote that for muffin, thinking it was him.
Still applies to you.

[Andrius]

Votecount 1.8

[6] mastin2 (Venmar, Trust Fund, BROseidon, nickthename, TiphaineDeath, Skullduggery)
[5] RachMarie (zMuffinMan, Andrius, Desperado, Faster Than Light, Nachomamma8)
[3] nickthename (mastin2, notscience, thezmon221)
[2] Andrius (BeautyAndTheBeast, Sound of Silence)
[2] Malakittens (Ghostlin, Aj The Epic)
[1] Faster Than Light (Skullduggery)

[2] Not Voting (RachMarie, Mac)

With 21 alive, it is 11 to lynch.

Let me know if you see any problems.

Deadline is in (expired on 2013-08-26 08:30:00)

this blows tinfoil theory one out of the water

[Nachomamma8]

Nacho, I have a really good idea,
but without your claim, I can't confirm what I'm thinking.

-V

There is no idea that requires you to know my name and role in order for you to confirm my alignment.

but FTL confirming you is a dang-good reason for the town-you to claim.

Do you believe there is something that can confirm me when I claim and HAS to be me and only me?

VOTE: mac

Your case from previous days isn't enough to get him lynched. Step it up or sheep someone because there's no way in hell I'm dealing with yesterday's shit.

Other than Mala, of course. I still want her head.

Really.

nhammen's entry post was incredibly reminiscent of his entry-post and overall posting style as scum in a game I recently completed with him. He posted a lot of IIoA and fence-sitting stuff without engaging with what was actually going on around him. This demonstrates a scum interest because it makes him appear like he's engaging with the thread while he's not actually pushing the game forward.

nhammen is gone, it's day three, I don't want to see this a part of anyone's cases anymore.

[Malakittens]

talk about the "way" mala has coasted and why it's "scummy"

i'm aware you've called things scummy, i've yet to see you explain why they are.

nhammen's entry post was incredibly reminiscent of his entry-post and overall posting style as scum in a game I recently completed with him. He posted a lot of IIoA and fence-sitting stuff without engaging with what was actually going on around him. This demonstrates a scum interest because it makes him appear like he's engaging with the thread while he's not actually pushing the game forward.

Mala comes in, doesn't post anything of substance, and instead spends most of day 1 trying to push people off the Rach wagon without actually giving any reasons as to why Rach is town. Her response to Thez's case, "so lol PL," was particularly horrible, but everything she posted was along the lines of "this is just Rach posting the way Rach does" despite the fact that Rach was strongly playing to her scum meta of only posting fluff without actually scumhunting at all. This demonstrates scum interest because it's her trying to derail a wagon on scum for reasons that were not just bad, but horrible (note, this is the same thing I was saying about Venmar yesterday).

And she (like many players that I want to look at) coasted through yesterday. Instead of engaging with the thread and trying to prove why she's town, she was content to lurk out the day, not contribute anything, and let the nick lynch go through without voicing an actual opinion. This demonstrates scum interest because it got pressure off her in the short-term while not giving any content for the rest of us to work with should we decide to ultimately lynch her.

Now are you going to respond to my case, or are you going to continue to deathtunnel me and treat me like shit?

I did post things of substance, but to each their own. I made ONE little mistake I didn't fully finish fucking reading and I went after B&B because I wasn't seeing town Mollie, but then I still kept giving out my reads which people disagreed with. I listened and I then stopped I went over past games and I changed my reads because my meta was wrong.

Rach was a null read to me because things she was doing is things I have seen her do as both alignments. So sue me for not wanting to lynch someone off of things I saw as null tells. Yes a lot of things I saw looked like a Policy Lynch. She was being useless and that's what people were throwing around. I would do the same if someone tried to PL NS right now for being an "useless" confirmed town. I have only seen scum-Rach ONE time, ONE TIME. She replaced into the game when the scum had basically lost, but hey I couldn't get the town to listen to me and lynch her and she ended up winning after NK'ing me because the town tore each other apart.

Yes because it's scum-me best interest to derail my scum partner's wagon. I did it once with town-Nacho in the game, but also you and Nick. Why would scum-me be stupid enough to do it again? I wouldn't.

~

I already gave out some of my reads.

Andrius is town.
Aj is town.
Mastin is town.
Ftl is probably town.
Mac is confused town.
Muffin is probably town.
TF is probably town.

I haven't decided on Venmar. Too many mixed signals.

Bro is scum.
Nacho I'm unsure.
Ghost is leaning scum.

Mutley is not playing similar to what he did when he was scum. So I'm leaning town there.

Everyone else is unsure.

I know this is probably not "perfect" for everyone, but it's what I have.

~

@Mastin:


Explain the Mac vote? I'm surprised you didn't vote me straight off the bat. Change of heart?

[Andrius]

Doing some VCA because I really really don't want to read that many pages.

So we have the one constant D1: the RM wagon, with a couple SPINOFFS onto me and nick. Nick was obv a counterwagon. I was an alternative wagon, though since the first three voters on me all flipped town calling that a COUNTERWAGON is a bit silly. At least up to VC1.13.
mac not voting and not actually contributing looks fucking horrible and should be lynched immediately.
Its like LOOK AT THIS VOTECOUNT:

Votecount 1.20

[7] RachMarie (zMuffinMan, Andrius, Desperado, Aj The Epic, Nachomamma8, TiphaineDeath, Ghostlin)
[6] Andrius (Trust Fund, Malakittens, RachMarie, Faster Than Light, notscience, BeautyAndTheBeast)
[2] mastin2 (BROseidon, nickthename)
[2] nickthename (mastin2, Mutleyddmc)
[1] BROseidon (Sound of Silence)
[1] Sound of Silence (Saki)
[1] TiphaineDeath (Venmar)

[1] Not Voting (Mac)

LOOK AT HOW AWESOME IT IS.
We have Mac not voting. Still.
We have the RM wagon which is made up of AWESOME PEOPLE.
We have the Andrius wagon made up of half CONF.TOWN and half scumbuckets.
Its beautiful.
Do not like how mastin calls both RM and I scum but votes neither of us as deadline draws near.

mala needs to contribute because being all DEATHSOON is great and all but only acceptable with concent
like nickthename.
mac should also die. seriously.
yeah.

[Andrius]

@mala: If you think mastin is town, shouldn't you think venmar is town?

And yes mastin has a history of not voting his scumreads. Hence why he's scum!

[Andrius]

TOWN
AJ The Epic
Desperado
Ghostlin
Nachomamma8

Saki

mutleyddmc
FasterThanLight

LEANING SCUM
TiphanieDeath
BROseidon
zMuffinMan
Venmar

SCUM
mastin

RachMarie

nickthename

mac
Trust Fund

NACHO, I LEAVE IT ALL TO YOU

BeautyandtheBeast

Malakittens

SoundofSilence

[Malakittens]

@mala: If you think mastin is town, shouldn't you think venmar is town?

And yes mastin has a history of not voting his scumreads. Hence why he's scum!

yeah, The one thing that would make me think Venmar is town is if Mastin is town.

The reason I'm townreading Mastin is due to that defense gambit. Why? He pulled the same exact one in a game I was in, but instead of it being Venmar it was me. I was town and he got himself dayvigged in order to keep me from a lynch.

[Nachomamma8]

I think Venmar is town.

[Andrius]

But you think mastin is town, so shouldn't venmar be town?
Though yes mastin being a body would be awesome right now.

p.s. I forgot about the TF/BRO interaction again.

[Andrius]

p.s. nacho you're beginning to worry me
just so this is out there

[Malakittens]

I think Venmar is town.

If I could get you sorted out I would be happy as a cat with a bowl of shrimp in front of me.

[Nachomamma8]

p.s. nacho you're beginning to worry me
just so this is out there

It is Day 3. I wouldn't have it any other way.

I think Venmar is town.

If I could get you sorted out I would be happy as a cat with a bowl of shrimp in front of me.

Sort me then.

[BROseidon]

Herro scum cw. Rach is town and Andy is scum, tyvm.

You nullread Rach for most of the day, then this happened.

Were you lying about your read?

[Malakittens]

I already explained. I was already drinking by then so no I don't remember writing that.

[Andrius]

I already explained. I was already drinking by then so no I don't remember writing that.

I knew there was a reason I liked her.

[BROseidon]

"I was drunk so it doesn't count?" Really?

Because people aren't more honest when they're drunk. Wait...

[Ghostlin]

@mala: If you think mastin is town, shouldn't you think venmar is town?

And yes mastin has a history of not voting his scumreads. Hence why he's scum!

Please stop this. Andy, short of sprouting sapphire dragon wings and flying off, I'm 1,000,000% sure that Mastin is Town. Convoluted at times, full of theories, but Town.

[Ghostlin]

Actually, I'm liking the BRO/Mala interaction. Please, continue. The whole Mastin thing is asinine and I would advocate a lynch on me before obv-Town Mastin.

Other things: 3734 says I'm scum, which is...coming from a scum read of mine. Alrighty then. And Des questions he vote on Mac.

For all this talk about Town Venmar, WHERE IS VENMAR?