Mini 1496: The Cash Cabd (Game Over)

[Rail Tracer]

would you be kind enough to point me to a post with the case vs DB or summarize it yourself?

maybe. after you tell me your thoughts on his posts.

Tempo is my version of scumhunting, I guess.

when is this going to happen?

[Daniel Bryan]

Rebel

1. Yes. His questions are alignment indicative. I was calling him scummy for that
2. No idea what youre talking about
3. Well I've seen hydras who do vote without consent, then the other head retracts. So I thought it was odd for them to aboid the dissonance
4. Lol. We all have our own ways of hunting.
5. Its called Gut.
6 . Apparently suspicion always means painting negatively
7. I said it felt weird. But then I saw it in Dessew, so I thought again
8. No idea what this is supposed to attack
9. Its weird how my reads are supposed to be constant and cant change according to new situations. That my catch up read him town but apparently his current actions CANT change that
9. Because it shows a lack of commitment, a lack of conviction to call someone scum, like theyre scared.
10. Again, Gut.

But consider that gone, your case on me is bad. I felt like you had to blow up minor points to make me look bad.

[Daniel Bryan]

Its kinda weird that after you talk about other people, you suddenly vote me and explain it 27 posts later, Brian.

Nonetheless, what "superficial" thing have I commented on? Why is that scummy in itself?

[Sound of Silence]

Its kinda weird that after you talk about other people, you suddenly vote me and explain it 27 posts later, Brian.

Nonetheless, what "superficial" thing have I commented on? Why is that scummy in itself?

Nothing to say to Rebel's case?

[Sound of Silence]

ah 426. going through that.

[Humble Poirot]

@artemiskitty:

whenever you can,, I've asked you some stuff. I'd appreciate answers.

@natirasha:

who's mala? (can I shorten you to nati?)

HumblePoirot: Holy shit town and a half, I think he's actually got, ffery. Step it up!

what does this mean and what is it referencing?

I appreciate the replacement and activity but you remind me of someone who crashes into a party acting like everyone knows them and not stopping to explain what or who the hell are they talking about. using post tags for some of the things you reference would be immensely helpful.

@Mogamma:

You want something to analyze? You're probably scum and I caught the person you replaced (see 163).

@brian:

Regarding the last part, this isn't what I said and you know it.

I didn't suggest that. The word

you

in that context is not talking about particulars, but as a player.

The trend following is just my perception of you from the get go and it is in line with SOS calling you agreeable. Easily swayed or whatever.

- You like what I say.
- You agree with something RTs says.
- You agree with SOS
- when prodded about it, you add information "attacking me" that you previously hadn't added and agree with
RT once more to later vote me.
- stuff (setup arguing & more )
- defending against DB
- 214 you tell us to stop fighting when I'm quite sure others like dessew had done so first and, in any case, you were voting me...

I understand there may be reasons for this but the general overview is still one of agreement/following.

in 390, after having others as leaning scum (and not DB), you suddenly come at him (when there's a starting inertia in that direction).

My last two votes have been on players I've been suspicious of and people I felt were strong candidates to be scum.

One of your last two votes was me and it was done very early on and you never seemed to be very sure about that vote, anyway.

I owe myself an iso on DB since I recall mostly agreeing with what he said and only recall disliking the use of an argument to call brian scummy but doing so himself.

@DB:

I'll read you later but, I missed an answer for this:

I'm puzzled. You attack brian saying my analysis was spot on and yet you too said (in 152, the very same post you attacked brian):

if you hate hydras then these things kinda don't need to be said anymore, its pretty obvious.

What gives?

[Mogamma]

HP, why are you saying HC lied?

[Humble Poirot]

...

I linked you to the

exact

post where I said it.

There's more in 171, 215 and 286

You can also ISO me and use the search function of your browser (Ctrl-F, probably):


Look for things like HC and lie. This feature is very useful and it allows for up to 3 users (press the [+] sign to add more).

[Humble Poirot]

fun fact, It can be used with more three players just by adding &user_select[]=XXXX&user_sort=Go to the last place (XXXX being the user ID, eg: mine 12137)

[Mogamma]

HP, you're not really answering the question I asked. What makes you think HC was "lying" rather than simply mistaken? From his play, do you think he needs to be measured by a high standard or low standard? Is he too skilled to make that sort of chronological error? Even if he was lying, why is that lie in specific more likely to come from scum than town?

I think you're definitely blowing his mistake out of proportion. He's clearly not very good at the game, probably replaced out because he was confused as fuck, and to say he's scum because of errors in his analysis is quite shallow analysis, in my opinion.

[Mogamma]

I'm also curious why you're reading Rail as town? I still haven't read the game but how does his tunnel on you look even remotely townish?

[Mogamma]

Vote Mario

[Sound of Silence]

Vote Mario

That is somewhat unexpected.

Vote: Daniel Bryan

[Dessew]

Daniel's answer is actually pretty good, I'd like to hear Rebel's response if there's any.
And the Fu-wagon is stalling right now, consider as if my vote was on him, but
UNVOTE: Fu
VOTE: Brian Skies
HP has a big role in this read. First: his #430 is on the spot (maybe his other posts are, too, I won't iso now.) Especially the Daniel-vote seems off, Rebel announced he had a case on him, and Brian joined the wagon with some stupid, made-up reason. And I also don't like that in his read on HP the hydradiscussion is overrepresented, but that's a minor issue in comparison.

[Natirasha]

(I'll get back to you soon, Rail Tracer)

@Humble Poirot--You're going to have to forgive me, bbccode and I do not get along well at all, half the time I'm posting from my phone which makes it harder. I typically respond to statements in order.
1. Mala=Artemiskitty, I typically address whoever I think is the primary head or who I think I am currently talking to. I will try to address them via hydra head for your sake, though.
2. I missed a word: my statement was supposed to be

HumblePoirot: Holy shit town and a half, I think he's actually got

you beat

, ffery. Step it up!

I appreciate the replacement and activity but you remind me of someone who crashes into a party acting like everyone knows them and not stopping to explain what or who the hell are they talking about.

Sorry, I think fferylit(of SoundofSilence) has been in 80% of the games I've been in since returning to the site, and nachomamma(of Rebel Without a Pulse) has been in a healthy number as well. As such, my opening post was implicitly being addressed to them.

[Rebel Without a Pulse]

Rebel

1. Yes. His questions are alignment indicative. I was calling him scummy for that
2. No idea what youre talking about
3. Well I've seen hydras who do vote without consent, then the other head retracts. So I thought it was odd for them to aboid the dissonance
4. Lol. We all have our own ways of hunting.
5. Its called Gut.
6 . Apparently suspicion always means painting negatively
7. I said it felt weird. But then I saw it in Dessew, so I thought again
8. No idea what this is supposed to attack
9. Its weird how my reads are supposed to be constant and cant change according to new situations. That my catch up read him town but apparently his current actions CANT change that
9. Because it shows a lack of commitment, a lack of conviction to call someone scum, like theyre scared.
10. Again, Gut.

But consider that gone, your case on me is bad. I felt like you had to blow up minor points to make me look bad.

1. you never used the word scummy.
2. look it up.
3. That doesn't explain why you're attacking SOS for not laying down a vote.
4. Exactly. Why do you attack someone else's ways?
5. you got a gut townread on us when we're not scumhunting, according to you? Really??
6. True. But the fact that you're doing it on your so called "townreads" doesn't make sense. You also avoided to answer why my question.

Again, he tries to paint players in a negative way. Encouraging the scumreading of Dessew, but also claiming a scumread on NotScience. This was after NotScience already claimed he was wrong on kitty. Why the need to bring it up?

7. Explain this. Why did it not feel wrong when someone else did it?
8. I'm attacking the fact that you didn't answer my question. You still haven't. It's about this:

Again, he tries to paint players in a negative way. Encouraging the scumreading of Dessew, but also claiming a scumread on NotScience. This was after NotScience already claimed he was wrong on kitty. Why the need to bring it up?

9.what actions made you change your read? He had been going at HP pretty much the entire time.
9. scared of what? What's the reason for scum not attacking weak reasoning?
10. You have only made negative comments on us, and have a gut townread on us? This is what I'm talking about when I say your reads don't match your comments.

Why aren't you talking to your town reads?
Why aren't you pressuring your scum reads?
Where is your town motivation?

Allow me to quote your post 10 again:

Because it shows a lack of commitment, a lack of conviction to call someone scum, like theyre scared.

I would prefer someone who is discussing with their town reads, not being sure of their scum reads, other than someone who points out the negativities in everyone's posts, doesn't question anything about the posts, but supposedly has a number of scumreads he's not pressuring.

Where is the commitment in your posts?

Stubbs.

[Rebel Without a Pulse]

Daniel's answer is actually pretty good, I'd like to hear Rebel's response if there's any.
And the Fu-wagon is stalling right now, consider as if my vote was on him, but
UNVOTE: Fu
VOTE: Brian Skies
HP has a big role in this read. First: his #430 is on the spot (maybe his other posts are, too, I won't iso now.) Especially the Daniel-vote seems off, Rebel announced he had a case on him, and Brian joined the wagon with some stupid, made-up reason. And I also don't like that in his read on HP the hydradiscussion is overrepresented, but that's a minor issue in comparison.

What do you think is good about DB's answer?

[notscience]

No shoutout for me?

[Natirasha]

No shoutout for me?

Truthfully, I forgot you were in the game for a moment there.

[Brian Skies]

Its kinda weird that after you talk about other people, you suddenly vote me

and explain it 27 posts later

, Brian.

Nonetheless, what "superficial" thing have I commented on? Why is that scummy in itself?

I'm sure I was talking about you (if not actually directly to you) in the post I voted you in. Explain to me the significance of the bolded part. I don't think the post difference is significant (there are 13 slots in this game and people have different times of availability) and HP was asking me to explain.

As for "superficial things," I'm referring to term usage (in the reads lists) and the misinterpreted post (it had already been circled around way before you brought it back up). I feel like you are blowing them way out of proportion compared to other discussions and details that have occurred during the game. I believe it is scummy because you are misdirecting attention that could/should be placed elsewhere to make yourself seem busy and actively scumhunting. Furthermore, I'm getting more and more convinced that either you aren't reading properly, or you are intentionally misconstruing things (I'm favoring the latter).

Also, why do you find it weird that I would take other people's ongoing discussions, interactions, and opinions to form my reads?

you tell us to stop fighting when I'm quite sure others like dessew had done so first and, in any case, you were voting me...

RT wasn't pushing the hydra discussion at all. I, on the other hand, did push the discussion and asked you questions regarding it. They weren't answered for me and I was getting frustrated that you were ignoring me.

One of your last two votes was me and it was done very early on and you never seemed to be very sure about that vote, anyway.

Are early votes ever sure things? I wasn't sure about my read on you, so I kept it there as I was trying to get a read (pressuring the person I'm currently looking at).

Vote Mario

Explain please. I don't see how you got here from the recent discussion with HP.

Vote Mario

That is somewhat unexpected.

Vote: Daniel Bryan

Again, how did you arrive here?

[Sound of Silence]

Again, how did you arrive here?

If you ISO me, I'm pretty sure you'll find my trajectory on Daniel Bryan.

[Dessew]

Rebel: I kind of belived him the 1., I didn't look it up, and it does come off bad, after all. But his answers 3, 5, 6, 9, 9, 10 were proper, and his other answers (except 1 and 2, but the latter isn't a big deal) make sense, too. But, yes, there's that fisrt one, I can't find the part in that post when he calls HP scummy, he gets "town vibes" from HP at the end of his post.

[Cabd]

Titus replaces Fuzdun

Vote Count of the First City, Seventh Block

Players Alive: 13
Votes to Lynch: 7
Format of:
Wagon (size): Voters on wagon

Rail Tracer (1): Titus
Mogamma (1): Mario and the Diamonds
Notscience (1): artemiskitty
Titus (1): Dessew,
Dessew (1): Notscience
Daniel Bryan (4): Rebel Without a Pulse, Rail Tracer. Brian Skies, Sound of Silence
Brian Skies (1): Daniel Bryan
Natirasha (1): Humble Poirot
Mario and the Diamonds (1): Mogamma
Not voting:Natirasha

Deadline for Day One falls on: 9/30/13 which is (expired on 2013-09-23 19:00:00)

[Humble Poirot]

This post covers until #439. I'll now read the rest.

@mogamma:

I have answered your question and all the questions you're asking me in 434 I've already developed about (in the links I very dutifully provided you).

It's your turn to make an effort and read. Once you've done so, you can quote me or ask me to rephrase and we can argue (even though my posts are long, the sections where I talk about a specific subject or player are not, you can quickly read what I linked to get the answers).

you can't talk about things and admit you haven't read the game in the same post.

Anyway, your definition of tunneling seems to be different than mine. Tunneling, imho, is focusing ONLY on one player and RT hasn't done that. He is agressive and pursued me regarding many things (and I questioned him back) but he seemed earnest in what he considered to be voteworthy, he actually addressed my responses and later has been consistent in his playstyle in general (voting dessew after me, for example).

Leaving his vote on me and attacking me even though many other players seemed to either have dropped the "hydra topic" or viewed as me town I consider closer to a town player than a scum one. Scum might want to blend in the crowd and have less disagreements, they might stop pushing for something if the general consensus is different (see my concerns regarding "brian skies" in 430).

Also... What's up with the mario vote?
You're not going to get quick reactions from an RVS like vote from a player who isn't known for his activity.

@nati:

I understand. Mafia from phones is insanely hard which is why I don't even try.

As for addressing heads, I've gotten used to it (after much stubbs and nacho mentions) and I checked to see which one was SOS as well to understand you but since AK's heads were private... I didn't make the association. What I'm trying to say is, I'm cool with naming the heads if it's relevant.

[Humble Poirot]

btw,

@Mod:

the deadline has been puzzling me, it currently says:

Deadline for Day One falls on: 9/30/13 which is 10 days [...]

Shouldn't that be on the 23rd?