Mini 1489 - VisCon: Murder at Wingate Mansion [Game Over]

[Tammy]

That doesn't look like an answer or a confession shadoweh

[Empire]

Alright so I'm going to try and truncate this projectmatt thing as much as humanly possible but sorry if this ends up being really long-winded. A couple of the things I wanted to focus on here were: (1) reactions to being pressured/voted/suspected, and (2) aggressiveness, or lack thereof, in his pushes. I took out the two oldest games on each end because it seemed redundant, but if anyone wants me to go talk about them then let me know.

TOWN:

Mini 1407 - This is a game that really stuck out in my mind when people here were accusing him of responding "terribly" to suspicion as he was almost certainly going to be the lynch for the day until I had replaced in. One of the things I think is easily noticeable here in this ISO is that he does actually get extremely defensive/reactive when attacked, almost to the point of personally insulting someone (e.g., #97, asking a player if he has a chemical imbalance). He does tend to get caught up in logic battles with his accusers and is often incredibly dismissive in his tone, as shown by his response to havingfitz in #403. As far as his reads go, there's a lot less meat to them in that game but I'd suggest it was largely due to the difference in content the game produced (he replaced in after quite a bit of stuff happened whereas Mini 1407 was an inactive dirge).

Mini 1393 - I think you see much of the same pattern here, but a bit less so as he isn't really suspected very much here (only in the early game). He tends to get a lot more waffly/paranoid in the late game, second guessing his townreads on the more experienced/competent players like mastin and Slandaar, something that is actually missing here in this game (at least not to the extent of the other games).

Micro 92 - One thing I see a lot of in his scum game is a lot of what I've called "escape hatches" - places in reasoning where scum often like to point out plenty of bad things a townread has done that ultimately nullifies the read itself so they have something to go back to (#84) and a lot of posturing about activity (which, if you note, there's none of in his town games). He spends the entire game not really having any solid reads and only making feeble attempts to push them forward. Hard to see any places where he reacts to pressure because nobody seriously suspects him during the course of the game (aside from KK at one point and he had a rather muted reaction to the post).

Open 391 - Here, I don't really see as strong of a reaction to being suspected and he even gives up and self hammers at the very end in 4 person mylo (though I don't have time right now to go look at whether it was auto loss for him or whatever). Lots of pretty stereotypical scum moves here: leading questions designed to make the person being questioned look bad, forced emotion posts of the "please don't be scum" variety, and lazy/skeletal reads.

P-edit: Shadoweh, I didn't know you were a Rufus Wainwright fan (it's because he's Canadian, isn't he?)...I'm listening to Tyler, the Creator right now and feel disgusting in comparison.

[Empire]

Oh, I'm super lame, there's supposed to be a big header up there just before Micro 92 that says "SCUM".

[Tammy]

Oh shadoweh

You murderous whench

Did you, perchance, murder our beloved lord

And hope To make others take

The fall for youeh?

See this is why I don't sing or write poetry. I hope you're happy!

[Shadoweh]

I GAVE MY ULTIMATUM IF YOU WON'T SLAM WITH ME THEN YOU CAN JAM WITH THE HATERS!
It's because one of my oldest friends used to play his album on repeat, I probably could have typed that from memory. That and the Neverending Story which I've never seen but BOY COULD I SING THE THEME SONG!

cut: awh now I feel bad for yelling at you. Youeh sounds so Canadian. No, we didn't kill your beloved lord, we were having a happy honeymoon when that asshole trapped us in the mansion. It was probably the serial killer.

[Empire]

Oh shadoweh

You murderous whench

Did you, perchance, murder our beloved lord

And hope To make others take

The fall for youeh?

See this is why I don't sing or write poetry. I hope you're happy!

It hurts.

[Tammy]

Gods I waited all night for a meta report and he got the headings wrong.

You don't deserve your avi

[Tammy]

Wait shadoweh has never sen the never ending story?

That's. just. Sad.

[Empire]

Wait shadoweh has never sen the never ending story?

That's. just. Sad.

To be fair, she's not really missing a whole lot.

Anyway, realtalk, I'm still leaning against lynching projectmatt based on that. What are your thoughts?

[Tammy]

Wait shadoweh has never sen the never ending story?

That's. just. Sad.

To be fair, she's not really missing a whole lot.

Anyway, realtalk, I'm still leaning against lynching projectmatt based on that. What are your thoughts?

Blasphemy.

But real talk reading your post right now.

[Shadoweh]

I've seen The Last Unicorn and all the Care Bears movies! I don't like moovies <.<
Incidentally if you'd like to know how badly I'm trolling you, I don't know who any of the other scum are besides the one you killed. I'm basically voting at random. HA HA

[Tammy]

I agree. I was starting to lean toward Matt being a bad lynch tonight anyway. I'm not really sure why he was nachos dream lynch in the first place. My problem is that I don't feel great about an inte lynch either, but I guess I'd prefer that. That would help figure out the neighborhoods.

As long as shadoweh dies, Mara can't be scum as that just doesn't make sense, and unless she's misreading her role pm quints can't be scum, hough bald eagle replacing out makes literally no sense whatsoever if he was a mason, so I hate to be that person but still nervous. A nd I'm alone now with inte so.

I think I'd prefer inte over Matt. We can get both of their flips and then if there's a tomorrow, you guys can go from there.

[Shadoweh]

I think you should lynch Bert. Look at his stupid puppy face. I HATE THAT FACE. AND I HATE YOU BERT

[Empire]

I don't really like the inte lynch either but considering this whole game has been trying to pick off the people on the lower end of the Sliding Scale of Townieness, I probably won't feel good about any lynch.

Before you go into that goodnight, Shadoweh, what anime should I keep watching? Steins;Gate or WataMote?

I will miss you lots, though I will never forgive you for killing our father =(

(I may or may not have been drinking tonight.)

[Tammy]

Hey shadoweh if you're not scum we can have happy fun times in the dead qt soon. That's something to look forward to right?

[Shadoweh]

Are you saying if I'm scum we can't be friends? :< Don't be so racist! Just because I'm a little blood-covered doesn't mean we can't hang out! I was looking forward to chilling with my family, looking for the other team, having a good time, but NO, none of you know how to have ANY FUN! WELL SCREW YOU TOO. ESPECIALLY MARANGAL who didn't mention the part where she's only half lovers with qwintz. So you should probably protect her so they don't both die ^_^/ JUST A LITTLE ADVICE FOR MY BEST FRIEND

[Tammy]

Yeah, shadoweh's flipping scum.

[Shadoweh]

I don't really like the inte lynch either but considering this whole game has been trying to pick off the people on the lower end of the Sliding Scale of Townieness, I probably won't feel good about any lynch.
Before you go into that goodnight, Shadoweh, what anime should I keep watching? Steins;Gate or WataMote?
I will miss you lots, though I will never forgive you for killing our father =(
(I may or may not have been drinking tonight.)

I'm serious about the not killing him part though. <.< I mean, you can not trust a word I say, but p sure there's another killer dood.
I think I've heard of WataMote. I think you should drop both of those and watch Dangan Ronpa immediately ^_^/ Or One Piece. There's only 600 episodes to catch up on!

[Empire]

God, if Nacho's town like I think he is, he's never going to let me live this game down, is he?

(Let's just say we're even for Xenologue, eh?)

[Tammy]

Dude nacho as a bodyguard protected scum two nights in a row in your game, he can't say shit.

[Shadoweh]

Consider it a token of my esteem that I'm not filling up the page with Space Jam lyrics. I'd say I'm sorry I didn't kill Nacho but :V

[Tammy]

I like space jam! Or at least I remember liking it!

I wish you would have tried to kill nacho!!!!!

[Empire]

Well, Tammy, uh as much as I'd like to say we're winning this game today, I'm not confident we will. So what are your final reads and stuff before we just move on with this ceremony?

[Tammy]

Empire town

As long as shadoweh flips scum and its a desperado scum then nachos town read on Bert is true though I read him as town anyway

Mara/quints are town by claim though damn does baldeagles replace out bug me

I want nacho to be town, but its nacho and I don't feel comfy calling him true town this early.

Generic is likely town, but he does have a good scum game

If its not inte (probs not) its more likely to be shoe or Matt I guess but lid lynch shoe first.

[Generic]

I tried to read the posts since mine but lost interest very quickly.

I really don't care what you think of me bert, the deflection back towards me when replying is noted though. You almost seem to be panicking now that a bit if focus has come your way.
A matt and bert scum team isn't out if the question, need to see the desp and bert interactions when I get a chance.

And I was the first person to reveal servant as a role bert, thanks for paying attention.

Inte and tammy are one hood,
Mara, qwints, shadoweh and empire are the other.

Neither are 'cleared'.