Open 521: Jungle Republic (Alright. We'll call it a draw)

[1baldeagle1]

But the thing is, I was thinking a 13p, so your whole point of explaining 12p thing is moot.

I was telling you how you should have been thinking.

Also what I meant by town PoV, I meant "Yggdra-town PoV."

What do you mean?

[Yggdra Union]

1. Mafia doesn't work in textbook way.
2. Nvm that. I'm assuming that everyone is "smart" enough to try to analyze our posts as both views.

[Alduskkel]

I still don't see what changed between 503 and 507.

[1baldeagle1]

Yggdra,
1.That's how town would think, it would be their point of view.
2. Oh okay

Alduskkel:

Also, it's just my opinion but, scumslips speak louder than WKing. I didn't really like your post about "Oh, I assumed 13p" so that's why I voted.

I'll explain this more in depth.

My vote on Om was based off on him WKing so much and my previous experience with scum WKing, so I was starting to get paranoid about it, so that's why I voted for Om. Then, when Yggdra made that slip, we asked her about it, and I didn't really like "Oh I assumed 13p" because we have been playing for awhile now and you're telling me that you don't know how many players are in the game? I mean, what Yggdra did was more alignment indicative over Om.

[Yggdra Union]

Because I only cared about how many scums are there to lynch.
This game had a moderate amount of playersize so I auto-assumed 13p, which is far more common than 12p because daystart in the game means that the odd-numbers are more balanced than even numbers.

Adding to that, WK is not a scumtell. It all depends on the playstyle.
If someone who usually don't WK WKs someone (in your case, JasonWazza), that's most likely a scum WK.
However, I've seen Om WKing as town, so his WKing is null point.

-Luciana

[Yggdra Union]

Also re: not even knowing the player-size

Well I admit that we haven't done much. We've been both busy RL and we have like 12hrs timezone difference (last time I checked with him) so we only got together to work on our reads like few days ago.

Yes, we would've known the correct player size if we once get the full reads going.

So TL;DR

We didn't know the correct player-size because we've been uncommitted and just assumed 13p because of the moderate-sized game.

-Luciana

[Yggdra Union]

Hahaha

Once "uncommited", we now have the most posts.
Jokes are on me!

-Luciana

[KrazyEyeKilla7]

Side topic.
I just realized where your name came from, Yggdra

[Yggdra Union]

It doesn't.

VOTE: YggdraUnion

Where was the vote when you said we "scum slipped", btw?

Why wait?

ill buy that.

VOTE: baldeagle

Sheep is good. But way you sheep is baaaaaaaaaaaad.

After baldeagle this guy should die

Teehee hydra slip

FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAK

Side topic.
I just realized where your name came from, Yggdra

/fangirl

-Aegina

[Yggdra Union]

Also.

Baldeagle is throwing half-baked pies.

Proof that he doesn't have solid read on us. Meaning he's making us look like scum but knowing we are town.

Ergo, wolf.

[Alduskkel]

Why is he a Wolf specifically?

What are you, Mafia?

One scumslip might be coincidence... two scumslips is a pattern.

Seriously, why would you say "wolf" instead of "scum" unless you knew that baldeagle can't be mafia (because you know who the mafia are, i.e. you are a mafioso).

[Alduskkel]

Not gonna wait on this vote switch.

Vote: Yggdra Union.

Because two scumslips.

[1baldeagle1]

Is "throwing half-baked" pies a term for the game of mafia.

Also, what Alduskkel said.

[Alduskkel]

I think they're saying your case is weak ("half-baked").

[Yggdra Union]

Why is he a Wolf specifically?

Because mafia have daytalk.
He wouldn't jump like that if he was mafia because there should've been a coaching involved.

-Luciana

[Yggdra Union]

Why is he a Wolf specifically?

What are you, Mafia?

One scumslip might be coincidence... two scumslips is a pattern.

Seriously, why would you say "wolf" instead of "scum" unless you knew that baldeagle can't be mafia (because you know who the mafia are, i.e. you are a mafioso).

Wow

Are you

This dumb?

I guess I have to spoonfeed it to you, don't I?



Obviously we're not the same alignment.

Then that would mean he's either wolf or mafia.

But what he's trying to do, is make me look scum.

"Obviously we're not the same alignment."

Hence, wolf.

Also

You have a brain, don't you?!

USE IT!!!

I mean, come on. Doing 2 unrealistic scumslips?

THOSE AREN'T EVEN SLIPS! YOU JUST MADE IT LOOK LIKE SLIPS!

Let me retract my early sentence about ace. He could die WAY later.

This alduskell guy can die with baldeagle

-Aegina

[Yggdra Union]

Sister let me post first

[Yggdra Union]

Aegina, "scum" means both wolf and mafia, not just mafia.

-L

[Yggdra Union]

Not to me it doesn't

-Aegina

[theaceofspades]

guys hang your heads and hold the haranguing of miss union.

The first one is not a scum slip. At all. seriously. c'mon.

the second..... i don't know......scum usually equals, "anti-town"

I really really hate playing with hydras sometimes. That said.......I still think eagle was being an idiot.....and union was always null to me....

ugh.

VOTE: union.

[theaceofspades]

btw. starting from "i really rellly....." is a P-edit.

[Alduskkel]

Mafia have daytalk but Wolves don't?

[Yggdra Union]

Mafia have daytalk but Wolves don't?

Why is he a Wolf specifically?

Because mafia have daytalk.
He wouldn't jump like that if he was mafia because there should've been a coaching involved.

-Luciana

Forgive me for doing this, sister, but

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA

Wrong setup, sis

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... e_Republic

No they don't

-Aegina

[Yggdra Union]

IIRC, mafia can't kill but have 3 ppl with daytalk, and wolves can kill but there's only two and they don't have a daytalk.
-Luciana

P-Edit: ....
Oh.

[Alduskkel]

"Factional Communication" Section implies neither the Mafia nor the Werewolves have daytalk...

Hello,

[Name]

, and welcome to the loony bin! You are a

Mafia Goon

. You and your partners,

[Name]

and

[Name]

, quickly bonded together when you each realized neither of the others was crazy either. You were either locked up because you were a threat to those in control or threateningly incompetent, but in any event you are not insane. In fact you hate all of these drooling idiots and would love to see them all dead. Not that you would want to soil your hands actually killing anyone, but how hard can it be to manipulate this voting game and outlast the thugs?

Abilities:

-Factional Communication: During the Night Phase you may communicate with your partners

here

.
-During the Day you can talk, think, and vote.

Win Condition:

-You win when at least half the living players are mafia, or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Hello,

[Name]

, and welcome to the loony bin! You are a

Werewolf

. You and your partner

[Name]

were born extremely hairy and with a passion for all things lunar. Now when the mood strikes you (along with a few helpful moonbeams) you let a primal inner rage take over to kill whichever victim you have trapped beforehand. You took control of the asylum to imitate the Hunt as best you could in the form of a voting game. Can you prove your prowess to best the voting game and strategically use your bloodthirst to vanquish the rest of the inmates?

Abilities:

-Factional Communication: During the Night Phase you may communicate with your partner

here

.
-Factional Kill: At Night you or your partner may kill another player. Please PM with the name of your target and the player performing the kill.
-During the Day you can talk, think, and vote.

Win Condition:

-You win when at least half the living players are werewolves and one pro-town role remains, or when werewolves make up a full majority of the town, or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Bottom line is, I don't see how YU could specify that they think baldeagle is a WOLF if they can't rule out that they're not MAFIA. And unless you're Mafia you can't rule out people as Mafia. Therefore, scumslip.