Open 527 - Hard Boiled: Dixon Hill's Maudlin Madness

[Bert]

Really tired today, but will get to this today.

I think TIP is town with that hammer yesterday. He did it without hesitation. Does he do this as scum? Bus and hammer like that? And his absolute uncertainty about null reads is actually kinda like how he responded to me in one of my past micro games as town. I'm trying not to let Nacho going after TIP yesterday influence me again.

I think Cait is town, although I wonder why they didn't vote Nacho when they had so much going for them in their case against him. I had the same worry about SOS.

I try not to let the bussing possibility hinder my read of Ceph. My initial gut in this game was that this player is scum, but then people began telling me that he/she plays like this as town.

Gut hasn't liked SD all game.

Mara/Majiffy not sure about. I like Majiffy so far, for what it's worth.

So

Town <Cait Sith, TIP>

Confused/null <Violent Saxophone> - don't know how to read them well, so I defer here

Scumspect pool <Cephrir, SD>

DoctorPepper, please come back and talk to us a lot if you're town and don't want to be mislynched. I don't feel great about you, and I didn't see anything ringing "town" to me during my night re-skim.

Mara/Majiffy don't sign their posts, and I can't tell who is who sometimes. I need help on that, again.

Interestingly, in my re-skim before today, I was most paranoid about SoS and SD, and ironically SOS dies during the night LOL

Anyways that's where I stand, and I'm really flustered/tired after a long but fun Saturday

Hope you feel better soon, Mala/Tammy! <3

[Bert]

Mara if you see this, maybe come back and talk??

My votes on Nacho yesterday were mostly because he didn't feel right. It was just gut. And having my townreads confirm the weirdness being felt was pretty cool.

I think SD is the last scum, at this point. GUT wise.

Violent TIP Cait all seem town.

Whoever asked a few posts ago about whether Nacho would make a hard case on Ceph as scum (they/he/she said that Nacho has done this before?). That's interesting, and it's hard for me to not change my stance after having heard that.

But yeah, I was feeling an SD lynch during the night.

Night y'all!

[VioleNt Saxophone]

TIP is probably still town for quickhammering. More when I have a chance to go into depth on the flipped scum.

Given that we have a mislynch that does seem like a reasonable tack, but I don't want to go there until I look back.

These posts need to die

Bert, how can you not know when I'm posting

I thought you knew my voice and my style

I was here yesterday, talking to Tammy about stuff, then went to bed and didn't get to do anything till after the hammer was placed

tbh, I lost a little bit of motivation to re-read over the night, I wasn't sure what was going to happen coming into today and I'll probably push this until Jiffy gets back

[VioleNt Saxophone]

oh

VOTE: Cephrir

[Bert]

Alright. I usually only recognize Jiffy posting in your hydra when he loads a post full of curse words

I don't trust my gut today... I'll vote with you

Vote: Cephrir

And yeah, the two posts you quoted are passive and indecisive

[VioleNt Saxophone]

I think the last scum can be found in Ceph/SD

I'm kinda worried on how NachoCabd ended up being the c/w to SD. It doesn't really help either way, and I had thought that Nacho might have had a chance to be town

I'm pretty certain in Bert/TIP/Cait town, though Jiffy isn't that certain about Cait IIRC though, as it stands I definitely don't think we should focus on that pool

those two quotes are wierd, it reads as if Ceph knows that SD might possibly end up being a mislynch

Pedit: <3

[Bert]

Well yeah, Cait Sith is strong and seems town

Just paranoid they might have been merely distancing from Nacho, hence their lack of vote

I'm in the same boat as you - that there is scum in Ceph/SD

That Wifom left from Nacho making a case on one and voting just plants Wifom

[VioleNt Saxophone]

Just paranoid they might have been merely distancing from Nacho, hence their lack of vote

TBF, I kinda sorta asked Tammy to leave Nacho alone and I think they did have their vote on him, but was giving him time in the chance that they were town. It also served as a means to give Nachocabd time to maybe contribute as well as me as I didn't get a chance to voice my opinions much yesterday

[Bert]

Alright, that makes me feel a whole lot better, actually.

Yeah, I remember now that Mala hasn't given me scum vibes this game, and actually tried to figure me out unlike my last game with her. She feels genuine in this game, and not over-defensive like that scum game she was in (514 Monk/Mason). That's why I had her as a townread (strong).

Thinking about Ceph/SD just confuses me since I didn't have either as townread. One Nacho semi-distanced but didn't express desire to lynch on the given day (SD), and then one Nacho voted and made a case on.

Ceph gives me the impression of having played a cautious game, and very hedgy (sp?). And being so sure about a few of her/his reads bothers me. Like "Bert is town, strongest gut-town read ever" is pretty hard to fathom. That, and some of her/his posts just don't feel genuine.

SD on the other hand (DoctorPepper) hasn't played like I saw him play as town (1481), and has been more like his quiet/passive-aggressive scum self (1462).

So just telling yall now, I'm sheeping my townreads today.

Lol. <3

[SalmonellaDoctor]

SD on the other hand (DoctorPepper) hasn't played like I saw him play as town (1481), and has been more like his quiet/passive-aggressive scum self (1462).

That might have

something

to do with the fact that DP doesn't post that much.

[Bert]

SD on the other hand (DoctorPepper) hasn't played like I saw him play as town (1481), and has been more like his quiet/passive-aggressive scum self (1462).

That might have

something

to do with the fact that DP doesn't post that much.

hey,

what are your perspectives about this game so far

who are your strongest townreads

who do you think the last scum is?

Any thoughts and perspective would help, as you are under a lotta suspicion

What does DoctorPepper think as to whether any of the remaining players are town/scum?

[Bert]

SD on the other hand (DoctorPepper) hasn't played like I saw him play as town (1481), and has been more like his quiet/passive-aggressive scum self (1462).

That might have

something

to do with the fact that DP doesn't post that much.

Then be very transparent today...

I want to see you fight your lynch and town it up if you're town

This is the point where POE comes into play, and you haven't seemed town tbh so either step it up (regardless if you're town or scum) and give us all ya got so we get a read that is directly one way or the other.

[VioleNt Saxophone]

VOTE: SD

The only smart option today.
And ffs stop voting Ceph.

[Bert]

Why SD over Ceph?

And what about Nacho's case on Cephrir or distancing from SD, what do you make of that

[Cait Sith]

Ftr you guys are freaking me the fuck out with your dissonant voting. Not that you're having it I totally get how that goes, and you're kinda reminding of my hydra with Arthur, but I thought that Mara didn't push on people her hydra partner thought was town and voted more in unison.

Bert - I unvoted nacho because he said he'd be back the next day and I didn't want a lynch to happen over night. Maras right in what she asked me but I had unvoted before that. I didn't want the day cut too short and I wanted to feel certain. I would have felt awful if that would have been a mislynch after how hard I pushed, especially because part of the reason I became certain was the way he read me. I wanted to make sure I wasn't being a huge omgussy jerk, even if I was scum reading him before that. I also wanted him to talk more and others too so we'd have a better shot here. I can't imagine a scenario where I'd distance with nacho like that, or unvote to give him a chance to talk.

Okay I need sleep.

[Cait Sith]

Oh yeah, the nacho case thing. Hang on.

[Cait Sith]

Okay so, it was in yoloville. Day three and I started feeling really uneasy about nacho, as we're others, and he was up for a lynch. He had been pushing one person all day and it was going nowhere. Then after concerns about him were raised he made this case against his partner and voted him.

So, I've seen him do it before but would he do the exact same thing again?

I'm trying to figure out if he thought he had a reasonable chance not to get lynched yesterday and what his purpose was there.

[Cait Sith]

My main problem with that is that I've been townreading cephrir all game, though I do agree that the way that post is worded it almost looks like he knows DP will be a mislynch.

I need to talk to mala though. And I need some sleep.

[VioleNt Saxophone]

Why SD over Ceph?

1) SD is a scumread
2) Ceph is a townread

And what about Nacho's case on Cephrir or distancing from SD, what do you make of that

Nacho's case on Cephrir reeked of trying to get a counterwagon started.

Ftr you guys are freaking me the fuck out with your dissonant voting. Not that you're having it I totally get how that goes, and you're kinda reminding of my hydra with Arthur, but I thought that Mara didn't push on people her hydra partner thought was town and voted more in unison.

Deal with it?

[Cait Sith]

If I felt more confident about your alignment, I wouldn't care. I'm not one of those people bothered by hydra dissonance, but from what I know, or thought I knew about Mara, she doesn't push for people her hydra partner thinks is town. So her continued voting for cephrir even after you've stated he's obvtown is freaking me out.

[VioleNt Saxophone]

but I thought that Mara didn't push on people her hydra partner thought was town and voted more in unison.

lolno

not entirely sure where you get this line of process, however I have tacked on votes that my hydra partner hasn't agree'd with

I've voted TIP in an open where Nero disagreed and kept moving the vote to someone else for example

[Bert]

DAY THREE

So yeah, I can see this being scum.

At the beginning, in this post, he makes a case for SD-scum.

1)

Vote: SalmonellaDoctor

Then, he votes SD.

You fucking talk to me when you're lynching me, young man.

Here, it is obvious that pressure is building, and he reaches out to me as if he's desperate.

Vote: Cephrir

I don't have as many problems with SD. The problem with them is that the only thing that looks good is the ns push, and I'm not so convinced DP would make a push like that on town ns so early. I would love to hear SalmonellaDreams's for finding me scum, though.

Then, lastly comes his case on Cephrir and his resulting vote.

[Bert]

EBWOP: My key point in my previous post is that Nacho was feeling the pressure in 852. That's how it felt. The attention was all on him, and he was being interrogated all over the place by Tammy/Mala and SoS in particular.

[Bert]

So it's either:

Then after concerns about him were raised he made this case against his partner and voted him.

or

Nacho's case on Cephrir reeked of trying to get a counterwagon started.

I'm leaning towards the former being the case at this point, now that Tammy brought this up.

[Cephrir]

Bert

If you want to suspect me that's fine

But I really wish you'd get over the fact that I am townreading you and it's a silly reason to suspect me.

I'm slightly nervous about VS as well, just because one of the members obviously doesn't want to vote me and the other keeps doing it, that seems like potentially fake hydra dis and a fairly easy way to have it. Please don't lynch me before I have time to make a decent post.