Mini 1486: Fruit Basket Mafia (Game Over)

[Peabody]

Uberkang already knew BVD was innocent when he said the wagon on them was opportunistic. He was attacking the wagon on an innocent read he had.

A godfather is an unlikely scenario. I feel the lynch on BvD is completely unwarranted. Even if you do lynch BvD and you get a godfather result, how would that clear my claim? It doesn't. It could look like a bus. And if BvD ends up being a townie, how does that clear me? Scum know alignment of everyone most of the time.

I'm not liking Kid A's disbelief in my claim. Like I said, it makes NO SENSE for me to come out as scum and claim cop. Also, I'm not fond of his ignoring my point against him.

ASP was about to be lynched. Kid A voted simply as a sheep. And then he disappears. When he reappears, ASP/Lucky is at L-1, and he =20670#p5261554]decides to throw suspicion on Mne. Three minutes later, he does it again. This is a last ditch attempt to derail the Lucky/ASP wagon.

[Peabody]

Uberkang already knew BVD was innocent when he said the wagon on them was opportunistic. He was attacking the wagon on an innocent read he had.

A godfather is an unlikely scenario. I feel the lynch on BvD is completely unwarranted. Even if you do lynch BvD and you get a godfather result, how would that clear my claim? It doesn't. It could look like a bus. And if BvD ends up being a townie, how does that clear me? Scum know alignment of everyone most of the time.

I'm not liking Kid A's disbelief in my claim. Like I said, it makes NO SENSE for me to come out as scum and claim cop. Also, I'm not fond of his ignoring my point against him.

ASP was about to be lynched. Kid A voted simply as a sheep. And then he disappears. When he reappears, ASP/Lucky is at L-1, and he decides to throw suspicion on Mne. Three minutes later, he does it again. This is a last ditch attempt to derail the Lucky/ASP wagon.

Tags fixed.

[zMuffinMan]

what's possibility of UK/muffin being some combo of traitor/mafia? I don't know.

ps: your derptastic plan of lynching bvd is sure going to shed light on that theory... ... ...

then stop answering for him. you are making excuses. playing devil's advocate. is he a delicate little birdie that needs your help? let him answer for himself and stop trying to protect BvD. they can also defend themselves. just because something is possible does not necessarily mean its likely. you keep coming up with imaginary ratios of likely to less likely. it is waaayyyyy more likely that a cop investigates a null/scum read than they investigate a town read.

yeah, i take back what i said earlier. you're actually retarded. i'm replacing out at the end of this day phase regardless of what happens. putting up with slandaar's moronic play is hard enough without this, too.

UK isn't even in the fucking game anymore, so HOW THE FUCK IS HE GOING TO ANSWER HIMSELF?

And yes, I FUCKING KNOW COPS INVESTIGATE NULL/SCUM READS. I SAID THEY ARE MORE LIKELY TO INVESTIGATE THE READS THEY ARE FUCKING NULL ON OVER THEIR SCUM READS.

ENGLISH MOTHERFUCKER, DO YOU SPEAK IT?

[zMuffinMan]

YOU KNOW WHAT?

FUCK IT.

VOTE: DON_JOHNSON

POLICY LYNCH TIME.

YOU ARE EITHER SCUM OR VERY FUCKING DUMB. I DON'T EVEN CARE THAT DESP IS VOTING YOU AND BEING OBVSCUM. YOU NEED TO DIE.

HERE'S MY REASONING.

NO NK N1, SCUM LYNCH D1, WE HAVE A COP INNO AND LYNCHING DON_JOHNSON SAVES THE COP AN INVESTIGATION!!!

FUCKING AMAZING LOGIC, RIGHT?

NOT QUESTIONABLE LOGIC IN ANY WAY.

C'MON GUYS, LET'S DO THIS.

I ONLY WANT TO HEAR OPINIONS FROM PEOPLE WHO AGREE WITH MY FAULTY LOGIC, SO PLEASE DON'T COMMENT IF YOU'RE JUST GOING TO POINT OUT THE ABSURDITY OF MY ARGUMENT. YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO DISCREDIT ME.

THANKS IN ADVANCE, LOVE AND KISSES.

[Slandaar]

lol, UK is a newbie so in fact more likely to investigate scumreads as that is just what newbies do but anyways...

VOTE: Fish

Just Lynch this guy.

[Peabody]

You don't see a Kid A scum?

[Slandaar]

He is town.

[don_johnson]

muffin. chill out. you're freaking out over a disagreement.

Peabody: that's fine. whatevz. we can disagree on the value of a BvD flip.

BvD: who is scum?

[Peabody]

He is town.

Why?

Or did you post this earlier in the thread?

[zMuffinMan]

i'm not actually freaking out, i just don't give a fuck and i felt like caps spamming.

i have requested replacement as soon as this day phase ends.

[Peabody]

He is town.

Why?

Or did you post this earlier in the thread?

Nevermind. I see you had a Kid A town read earlier in the thread, but I'm failing to see why you have this read.

[don_johnson]

i'm not actually freaking out, i just don't give a fuck and i felt like caps spamming.

i have requested replacement as soon as this day phase ends.

don't do that. it makes it harder for everyone. just stick it out. people aren't dumb because they see things different. if you have a good case, lay it out. if no one follows. well then. no one follows. replacing out because you are upset with other players only damages the game as a whole.

[Slandaar]

Well if you want an actual post to look at ie evidence thid post and the latter reasoning is pretty town.

oops i guess slandaar was right

VOTE: a simple plan

[Slandaar]

Vote: Elyse

Right now I'm getting town reads from Desperado, Stubbs and Uber. Since they seem to be on the level and seem to see you as scummy it helps me feel good about this vote. It just seems to me that you are trying very hard to come off as town, but you don't seem genuine to me, in fact it seems forced and fake.

This is posted after I post my wall and after Simples reaction.

Also,

Unvote: Elyse

Going back over your ISO, you've been very proactive in trying to figure out scum. I think you have some solid leads, and others you are misguided about. My vote on you may have been somewhat biased by the rvs stage wagon. I'm leaning town on you now though.

Vote: A Simple Plan

For the following two posts.

@ASP, You can't see any potential town motivation for not outing ones reads?

Hiding one's reads doesn't provide anything for the town to go on, and it just feels too secretive for my liking. I suppose one could do so as town to to try to protect his or her interests later in the game and protect himself from being framed for a NK through his scum-reads being targeted. I still feel like it's more anti-town because it gives us less to work with, but now that I think about it more, it gives a more null read on Slandaar than straight scum.

Elyse is only making my scum read on her a bit stronger and gives me less doubt, and her 153 feels odd, especially in response to Desperado's 152. I feel like my vote on Kid A is pretty good, and the OMGUS reaction to my vote in 133 makes me feel that much better about it.

Slandaar's most recent post is excellent, and I'm going to go ahead and say it's enough for me to consider him town right now. Still looking at Elyse and Kid A as scum suspects right now. Also, got a new laptop so posting might be a bit easier, but as of right now it's 12:30 and I've got my first day of classes in college tomorrow, so I'm going to bed. Will try to update with better quality soon.

Doesn't make a lot of sense how he now moves to vote Simple Plan for something he failed to comment on prior to this when he clearly had the chance, it looks like he was waiting to see how town reacted before deciding his course of action; this is scum thing.

The reevaluation of Elyse also does not feel right.

OK There is the case on Fish, he doesn't react to ASP's post until a lot of other people have their say on it then he jumps on the wagon when he sees a sinking ship. If he felt it was scummy he had the chance to say but he didn't before others did.

Also he really waffled about assuming my post about cults was in a mod post but not assuming Elyses was.

[Peabody]

Well if you want an actual post to look at ie evidence thid post and the latter reasoning is pretty town.

oops i guess slandaar was right

VOTE: a simple plan

Have you reevaluated this read since the ASP/Lucky flip?

I can see a FF scum, but it's mainly based on a read from the day 1 wagon on him. I will reread him today with the ASP flip in mind. I didn't see who was lynched day 1 prior to reading day 1. Just like don(?) I saw only Papaya as the dead one.

[Desperado]

don't really get why desp jumped off the BvD wagon. in fact, there is no real explanation.

I got more interested in something else.

thought BvD had two votes on them. my bad. if you would rather I vote someone else, let me know who and why. why is there no reason for me to be compromising? ok. I will try it your way.

i'm slowly parsing the latest posts right now, but dj's vote on bvd is the 4th vote, so desp's #530 is wrong.

Yeah I was wrong here. Luckily don tried to suggest we lynch the cop inno, which is so outrageously dumb that it couldn't have come from a scum mindset.

I'm getting a gut scum read from Des, mainly because his top scum list are against my town read list. I'll investigate this more when I have time tomorrow.

Well I obviously don't think Buffy is scum any more. Then muffin fake-raged in a really townie way. At this moment in time I think the remaining scum are in {fish, Viera, Kid A}.

Why are you so interested in it?

i'm interested in

your thoughts

on it because the three options i see are that he's scum faking it for some reason, or he's scum who slipped, or he's town who derped. in the first option, i'd assume you have some reason you think he's faking it (you claim WIFOM apparently). in the second and third options, it makes no sense to think i'm scum with him. this may be totally irrelevant now though because you're apparently changed your mind about it with the dj vote.

And Peabody's claim makes it even more irrelevant.

And when he flips scum muffin and buffy are confirmed town.

i can somewhat understand the bvd thing, but how does what dj said in any way relate to me?

Your interaction just then was not scum-scum...I don't see scumdon erroneously "agreeing" with scummuffin and then voting one of your townreads.

Okay guys. Let's shake things up. We aren't lynching Buffy today.

Why?

You'll be happy to know that I'm your

friendly neighborhood cop

, and I'm pretty confident it's the right choice to claim here. Buffy vs Drac was my innocent result for the night. *Snips the noose around BvD's neck from the gallows*.

Don't believe me? How about you read my predecessor's post who didn't support the BvD wagon?

I'm fairly confident this poor townshydra was going to be lynched due to deadline panic. Which is why I needed to claim now. I won't be able to post again until this afternoon at least.

This makes a lot of sense actually. Explains Uber's weird reaction to my FOS earlier.

Unvote
Vote: Kid A

[Kid A]

jesus christ this is a fucking mess

we are testing uberkangs extremely fucking tenuous inno by lynching bvd

[Desperado]

No we're not.

[Peabody]

jesus christ this is a fucking mess

we are testing uberkangs extremely fucking tenuous inno by lynching bvd

This makes no sense. Lynching BVD does nothing to clear me. GF probably doesn't exist. And if the town allows me, I will explain why tomorrow's phase.

[Kid A]

actually youre right

im

suspicious as fuck

of peabody but with no cc trying to push a lynch on an inno isnt going to work

VOTE: formerfish

[Elyse]

Muffin, don't replace out. You are a beacon of hope in this game.

@Peabody
Why do you have to explain tomorrow and not today?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Desperado

Also willing to vote Viera (idk who that is but they're not a townread) and mnemonic and compromise on Formerfish.

I don't even know who's in this game right now because the OP doesn't say who replaced in so here's my town reads in order of strongest to weakest:
Peabody
Buffy v Dracula
Muffin
Slandaar
Kid A
don_johnson

I'm probably forgetting someone but what are you gonna do?

Lynching BvD is idiotic and I don't know why it's even being suggested tbh.

[Kid A]

Oh wait. Kid A might be scum. Before ASP was lynched, he pointed out Mne's lack of posting. How odd.

btw this stupid half case on me ignores the context to my post lol

sorry that my posts are getting so rare

firstly in response to buffy - i am voting asp because theyre probably scum but your weird behaviour regarding asp and ff means that you will look bad if one of them flips scum

you keep saying im your big scumread and you want me lynched so please start making a case or pushing for my lynch instead of just vote parking on me

right now mnemonicdevice is most forgettable player - i'm going to iso him and see if i can find anything

also both hydra heads responding to my last post makes me think i might have noticed something i wasnt meant to notice - it's not the strongest tell but definitely something

and then i did the iso and found 6 posts with no content in any of them

And then he disappears. When he reappears, ASP/Lucky is at L-1,

v/la as a scumtell lol

And if the town allows me, I will explain why tomorrow's phase.

what's stopping you from doing it today

why do you think you will live through tonight despite being a claimed cop???

[Desperado]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Desperado

Alright so at this point, Slandaar, Desperado, Kid A, and UberKang are my strongest townreads. I'm getting a townfeel from pdmedic too at this point.

The last time you mentioned me was to cheerlead me in 533.

What's up?

[Elyse]

Yeah a lot happens in 400 posts. You've been pinging my gut, using abysmal reasoning all game, (you are a very competent player and I expect more), and you seem concerned with your appearance.

[Desperado]

Can you show your work please?