A uPick of Ice & Fire - Day 12 - #REKT?

[Tierce]

Mine?

(You should watch the movie. You'll change your mind, promise.)

You should read the book.

[quadz08]

Quadz is making votes he believes we'll believe he believes instead of votes he believes though.

lolnope

[quadz08]

seriously, if that's what I was doing, wouldn't I have not unvoted

[Eddard Stark]

Day 1, Vc 7

PrideandJoy (2) -

elleheathen, Tammy

Goat on a Raft (1) -

Tierce

Cephrir (1) -

Goat on a Raft

kanyeknowsbest (2) -

Zdenek, Shadoweh

Andrius (1) -

StupendousMan

elleheathen (4) -

PrideandJoy, Cephrir, Garruk Relentless, kanyeknowsbest

quadz08 (2) -

macmollie, Alfred Borden

Not voting (11)

- Amrun, Andrius, Benmage, Messiah Complex, Nautilius, ooba, SafetyDance, Syryana, Thor665, PeaceBringer, quadz08

With 24 alive it takes 13 votes to lynch

• Deadline Date: 1st of October at 17:05 EDT
  
• Deadline Countdown: (expired on 2013-10-01 17:05:01)
  
• Thor and Benmage are V/la

If there are any VC mistakes please let me know

[quadz08]

I am not sure that's a real sentence.

[Amrun]

hey so i'm town but dan is scum
it's weird I know right

Vote: ActionDan

This isn't scummy because of the reasons it initially got wagoned, but it is a really awkward joke, just like the rest of chesskid's posting so far -- and no actiondan.

This is indicative of scum on both of their parts.

You hit your head too many times on the Wall, didn't you?

VOTE: PrideandJoy

Then again, not a huge fan of this post, either.

Because we're us:

Vote: Garruk Relentless

Oh wait. Not this game. See, in this game, we're cursed and take 2 less than the majority to be lynched. So, instead.

Unvote

Oh, this is gross... So extremely image conscious. Didn't even re-place an RVS vote (or otherwise) on someone else.

Man this sucks. Tierce, you picked a badass woomens like Tyene Sand or something, right?

might i suggest you vote for pride and joy instead of rolefishing?

Well, this actually is easy.

Unvote
Vote Kanye

I really dislike this vote. I anticipated his explanation, which came later as I expected it to, and I still dislike it. It's just so... Meh. It's so blown out of proportion and imo more guilty of the thing it accuses than kanye ever was (and plus kanye is really town).

On the other hand, going after kanye at that precise moment feels a bit ballsy for scum.

We're not gonna sign probably. SSK and I have different enough voices though that it shouldn't be too hard to discern us though. Example: the other posts in this thread are all SSK. I sometimes refer to myself as a friendly wolf token, too.

I cannot tell the difference between posters in virtually any hydra because I am not very observant. As such, I would like to request that everyone sign.

If you're not able to differentiate hydra members due to writing/playstyle, they are able to fake who wrote each post if they are called out for inconsistency and whatnot. Signing is pointless; if differentiating people is important for you, go read their completed games to see how they write.

As for your "no [hydra] else gets a pass" on signing, bah. Get better at recognizing writers, then you don't need signatures and can try and figure out if they are impersonating each other. It's fun.

Empire, you should probably sheep me.

Hey PrideandJoy--less general theory talk, says the hypocrite. Play

this

game. Seems a bit silly to be worried about not having good Townreads by page 2-3. (I'm Town. There, that's one.)

This post contains zero game talk, at a time when there should have been game talk. Talks about PnJ, for example, with NO comment on their alignment. Scummy.

No, not really. There's always obvtown. There's always the worry of protective roles. It's also always nice to have obvtown.


Not at all. If I'm townreading someone early they're 95%+ likely to be town
if I'm scumreading someone early they're only say 50%+ to be scum
so one is a lot more useful than the other

Pedit: If you're town show it, Tierce, don't come in with a weak chainsaw

Who was Tierce chainsawing?

Tierce, why so aggressive?

Aggressive

is

my default mode. I could bring in puppies if it makes you feel better, though. Empire's Town, Tammy might be Town, I'm ready to roll this game and already irked by the posting spree because I need to leave for a few hours. The hypocrite bit was referring to

me

, though, in case you're wondering.

Tammy is happy as fuck town. I've been looking forward to this game for months, being scum would have ruined it.

Empire - I'm leaning town on tierce, yes? Also I've done one shot.

This is EXACTLY how I felt upon receiving my role and I don't think Tammy could/would fake this bit -- town points for her.

oh and this is your day 1 vote on someone who has not posted and you are pushing the lynch.

I've clearly posted. So that's why you got the hat.

It's fairly obvious why there was/is a wagon on me. Am I supposed to care or something?

This post is more awkwardness. And he understands the wagon on him? That's not usually a town thing imo. "I GET THE REASONS BUT LOL I DON'T CARE" No.

VOTE: elleheathen yeah I am way supercomfy with that wagon. the wight comment reads too much like a slip to ignore this early in the game.

How could that even

be

a slip when I'm talking from the POV of someone else and not even referencing myself but someone that hasn't shown up yet?

Can town slip?

I mean, I guess that Faraday could just flavor the scumteam as wights, but it doesn't seem like Faraday, especially when there are definitely a couple of explicitly undead characters that could get picked.

It was a shotgun thought, and in retrospect, not a terribly good one. *shrug*

Not really liking the whole backing off his own argument with an awkward shrug thing.

VOTE: prideandjoy

[chesskid3]

and no actiondan.

This is indicative of scum on both of their parts.

brb loling

[PrideandJoy]

and no actiondan.

This is indicative of scum on both of their parts.

brb loling

[Tierce]

This post contains zero game talk, at a time when there should have been game talk. Talks about PnJ, for example, with NO comment on their alignment. Scummy.

How dare I not comment on PnJ's alignment by post 73, gasp. Did you miss the hypocrite comment? The point of that post was to get chesskid to address the game in a way that was relevant to

this

game, which I felt he was not doing. Why am I doing that? Because

I didn't have a read on them

.

Actually, let's go here. That whole post was a lot of actions over motivations.

UNVOTE: Goat on a Boat
VOTE: Amrun

[PrideandJoy]

So I've got a minute, so I'll entertain.

Point #1: Your post generated a wagon and got the game out of RVS, but it felt awkward so I'm gonna say it was scummy
Point #2: ActionDan isn't in a thread that's been open for ~hours and he's on vacation so hasn't been posting onsite for the last few days with any frequency is a scumtell.

Wat.


Point #3:

UNVOTE: StupendousMan, VOTE: Cephrir

Cephrir could have joined kanye in getting the game started. He didn't.

Man this sucks. Tierce, you picked a badass woomens like Tyene Sand or something, right?

Badass woomens all day long, dear. Aerion Brightflame the Fabulous was my first pick.

VOTE: Goat on a Raft

How dare Cephrir not jumpstart the game on page 1.

This is a chainsaw, welcome to mafia 101, you are currently running a C in the course please bring your grade up Amrun

Point #4: So, not spelling out exactly that the wagon on me was essentially an RVS wagon to get the game going, and thus ruin the remaining efficacy it had was scummy cool thanks.
And being unconcerned about ~5 votes on me is also scummy ok. I'm lowering your grade to a D gonna need some serious extra credit Amrun.


The rest of your post is similarly griping about things that are non-issues to make attacks and seem threatening. You can go in the scumpile, congrats.

Pedit: I'm sticking with my ellasomething vote for now, because there's more to be gleaned from it, but Amrun is a good vote, yes.

[PrideandJoy]

Mainly because since being voted, all Ella has done is react to her wagon, not scumhunt at all.

[macmollie]

holy shit

VOTE: amrun

[Tierce]

Mainly because since being voted, all Ella has done is react to her wagon, not scumhunt at all.

You're a bit of a rush there. Game started five hours ago and she's a newbie; sometimes the natural reaction is to react to the wagon and try and understand the logic behind it, not scumhunt directly; she's still trying to figure things out, though, and that's not scummy. Easy with those conclusions, tiger.

[Amrun]

Honestly... chesskid, that's exactly the sort of thing I find scummy about you in this game. Doing that only at the expense of sharing reads? You're good at reading me, tbf, better than a lot of people, at least -- you don't appear to have even looked at my post as a way to evaluate my alignment. You only tried to laugh off the part that referred to you.

p-edit: You, on the other hand... not so good at reading me, Tierce. And yeah, I expect you (or just about anyone) to make some sort of content comment by post 73. The "hypocrite" part was what made it scummy, to me. You're a very self aware player, and you're aware when you're being hypocritical and you're not. That doesn't actually make you town.

p-edit 2:

I meant "for the duration of the game," not by that point in the game. I wrote my post after reading the whole thing. And I wouldn't have voted for you for AD not posting (he's on vacation, iirc), but I wanted to see what you'd both say to that. The reason I'm voting for you is for what YOU posted, which is not v good.

And as for "mafia 101," that's a) only a chainsaw if Cephrir is scum (there's mafia 101 for you, perhaps you need to return), b) I didn't ask because I didn't know, I asked as a way of trying to figure out YOUR motivations.

And it's not that you were unconcerned, it's the WAY you were "unconcerned" that made me actually think you WERE concerned, which is not what I was expecting from you as town.

p-edit x 10: OMG let me post. Please do not turn this game into a spamfest, people. I cannot keep up with that right now.

[PrideandJoy]

A chainsaw is a convient label for a defense of that type. It's alignment relevant, and certainly an odd entrance, which is why I pointed it out. A chainsaw doesn't magically become something else if it's not from scum, it's still a chainsaw.

So. Walk me through this. As scum, I decide to make a post that I, (being a smart and experienced enough mafia player), know will result in ~pressure on me. Then, I feel the pressure and decide to fake nonchalance? That's this game? Really?

In what WAY was I unconcerned that was scummy, pray tell? Or is all you can throw around buzzwords.

[Garruk Relentless]

Hey, Amrun, you're misrepping us a little--we did random vote Goat on a Raft like three posts later. And you can hardly expect us to not be a bit self-vote shy when we have a super-hated modifier.

[PrideandJoy]

Hey, Amrun, you're misrepping

us

a little-

Just so.

[PrideandJoy]

Hey, Amrun, you're misrepping

us

everyone a little-

Just so.

goddamnit was suppoesd to say this

[Tammy]

Meh. I just modded a game with Elle as scum and I'd have to see more posts from her to even come close to being able to read her right now. I think the flavor thing is weird, and maybe it's because I play at a site dedicated to this series so puns and flavor references are the norm and not something that is out of the ordinary. But it seems pretty clear that the mustbeawight reference was something that was clearly thought about, and if she clearly thought about it then it couldn't be a slip, but I don't really take much stock in most of those types of slips anyway.

So, yeah, don't much care for that wagon.

And tierce already stole my thoughts about her not scumhunting and just defending herself. But I just watched her as scum not have trouble fake scumhunting in what I'm pretty sure was her first time as scum. I could easily see that as a personality tell. I've many many times as town said something or pushed a point I thought was good and have people react negatively to it, and me be so shocked that I do nothing but defend myself and sometimes make myself look worse.

But I also don't think much of the quadz wagon. However, he's easy to read, yeah? Empire? I mean I know you guys are voting there, but he doesn't seem off the wall to me?

And syryana if you could get in here and post and let me know if we can set this place on fire, that would be really awesome. Thanks.

Pedit: hmmm...interested in where this amrun thing is going. I liked her saying that she felt he same way I felt upon seeing her role pm. Am I being a sucksack? I feel like I'm being a sucksack.

[quadz08]

dayum p&j is town as shit guys

[PrideandJoy]

You're being a sucksack
The far more likely reaction to a role pm in this game is rage

[quadz08]

Tammy seems a lot less confident than I remember her being in Experimental Role Mafia where she came in like a fucking screaming banshee. Noted.

[Tierce]

p-edit: You, on the other hand... not so good at reading me, Tierce. And yeah, I expect you (or just about anyone) to make some sort of content comment by post 73. The "hypocrite" part was what made it scummy, to me. You're a very self aware player, and you're aware when you're being hypocritical and you're not. That doesn't actually make you town.

Post 50 and Post 92 not good enough for you? Too bad. I wanted actual game content from PnJ and was trying to obtain it. Right now, I think they are Town (Empire's bit about chesskid's puzzlement was good), I was trying to get it, and I wanted them to do something that was

readable

. Yes, I did so in a post that was more theory than content, and joked about it. Since a) I wasn't calling chesskid's actions as scummy and b) hypocrisy isn't scummy, what is your problem with me saying I was being hypocritical, again? How is self-awareness

scummy

, which is what you're accusing me of?

You're being a sucksack, Tammy. It's easy for anyone to say they agree with how you felt, regardless of the truth. Mine was more FUCK YEAH BADASS WOOMENS. But that's because I'm cooler than you and I had hoped Empire would draw scum for my long-delayed revenge.


Good grief quadz is turning into MoI.

[Tammy]

You're being a sucksack
The far more likely reaction to a role pm in this game is rage

I'm thoroughly amused by my role. I'm also amused that once again in a faraday game, if I choose properly my role will be made public.

[PrideandJoy]

Good grief quadz is turning into MoI.

MoI would never call me town
disaster is averted